The Argument Index
Debate potential by speaker, the highest-scored statement each year, and the companies with the most bearish calls on record. All of it clickable, all of it playable.
People
Average debate potential by speaker
All 81 guests with 5 or more scored statements, ranked. 2 more have fewer than 5, too few for a fair average, and the host is scored on his own page. Sort or filter below.
| # | Person | Avg debate potential | Statements scored |
|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Eoghan McCabe Co-Founder & CEO, Intercom | 2.95 | 22 |
| 2 | Matt MacInnis Chief Product Officer, Rippling | 2.82 | 33 |
| 3 | David Cramer Co-founder & CPO, Sentry | 2.69 | 42 |
| 4 | Steve Blank Adjunct Professor, Stanford University | 2.67 | 24 |
| 5 | Michael Lopp Senior Director of Engineering, Apple | 2.62 | 26 |
| 6 | Dan Shiebler Co-Founder and CTO, Artemis | 2.5 | 6 |
| 7 | Kellan Elliott-McCrea Head of Engineering, Adobe | 2.48 | 33 |
| 8 | Anil Varanasi Co-founder and CEO, Meter | 2.46 | 41 |
| 9 | Zack Kanter Founder and CEO, Stedi | 2.42 | 43 |
| 10 | Oliver Jay Former Chief Revenue Officer, Asana | 2.42 | 31 |
| 11 | Jake Stauch Co-founder & CEO, Serval | 2.36 | 44 |
| 12 | Sam Schillace Deputy CTO & CVP, Microsoft | 2.36 | 22 |
| 13 | Karri Saarinen Co-Founder & CEO, Linear | 2.35 | 31 |
| 14 | Diya Jolly Chief Product and Technology Officer, Xero | 2.32 | 25 |
| 15 | Parag Agrawal Co-founder & CEO, Parallel | 2.31 | 26 |
| 16 | May Habib Co-founder & CEO, Writer | 2.29 | 24 |
| 17 | Dan Siroker Co-Founder & CEO, Rewind AI | 2.29 | 34 |
| 18 | Qasar Younis Co-founder & CEO, Applied Intuition | 2.27 | 49 |
| 19 | Graham Moreno Head of GTM, Parallel Web Systems | 2.24 | 25 |
| 20 | Matt Lerner Co-Founder & CEO, SYSTM | 2.23 | 22 |
| 21 | Will Larson CTO, Imprint | 2.22 | 36 |
| 22 | Chris Degnan Former Chief Revenue Officer, Snowflake | 2.21 | 29 |
| 23 | Jack Altman General Partner, Benchmark | 2.21 | 38 |
| 24 | Jeremy Epling Chief Product Officer, Vanta | 2.19 | 26 |
| 25 | Rick Song Co-founder & CEO, Persona | 2.19 | 32 |
| 26 | Ryan Glasgow Founder and CEO, Sprig | 2.19 | 16 |
| 27 | Adam Guild Co-founder & CEO, Owner.com | 2.18 | 22 |
| 28 | Anique Drumright Chief Product Officer, Harvey | 2.17 | 18 |
| 29 | Eeke de Milliano Head of Global Product, Stripe | 2.16 | 43 |
| 30 | Stephanie Berner Chief Customer Officer, Smartsheet | 2.16 | 32 |
| 31 | Jon Noronha Co-founder & CPO, Gamma | 2.15 | 34 |
| 32 | Jay Parikh EVP of CoreAI, Microsoft | 2.14 | 22 |
| 33 | Ankur Goyal Founder & CEO, Braintrust | 2.14 | 28 |
| 34 | Wade Foster Co-founder & CEO, Zapier | 2.14 | 22 |
| 35 | Paul Copplestone Co-founder & CEO, Supabase | 2.09 | 23 |
| 36 | Amjad Masad Co-founder & CEO, Replit | 2.07 | 29 |
| 37 | Kareem Amin Co-founder & CEO, Clay | 2.07 | 27 |
| 38 | Jack Krawczyk Senior Product Director, Meta | 2.07 | 27 |
| 39 | Milin Desai CEO, Sentry | 2.06 | 18 |
| 40 | Eric Sager COO, Plaid | 2.04 | 25 |
| 41 | Krithika Muthukumar Entrepreneur in Residence, Thrive Capital | 2.04 | 28 |
| 42 | Alex Kracov CEO & Co-Founder, Dock | 2.03 | 29 |
| 43 | Casey Winters Co-Founder and CEO, SuperMe | 2.02 | 52 |
| 44 | Anneka Gupta Chief Product Officer, Rubrik | 2 | 22 |
| 45 | Dennis Pilarinos Founder & CEO, Unblocked | 2 | 20 |
| 46 | Colin Zima Co-Founder & CEO, Omni | 2 | 24 |
| 47 | Kevin Mandich Head of Machine Learning, Sprig | 2 | 9 |
| 48 | Tara Seshan Product Lead, OpenAI | 2 | 29 |
| 49 | Jyoti Bansal Co-Founder & CEO, Harness | 1.97 | 33 |
| 50 | Guillermo Rauch Founder & CEO, Vercel | 1.97 | 30 |
| 51 | Noah Desai Weiss Chief Product Officer, Slack | 1.97 | 31 |
| 52 | Varun Anand Co-founder & Head of Operations, Clay | 1.96 | 24 |
| 53 | Sheila Joglekar Vashee Chief Marketing Officer, Figma | 1.95 | 20 |
| 54 | Jay Kreps Co-founder & CEO, Confluent | 1.95 | 22 |
| 55 | Wes Kao Co-founder, Maven | 1.93 | 15 |
| 56 | Tristan Handy Founder & CEO, dbt Labs | 1.93 | 29 |
| 57 | Adam Nash Co-Founder and CEO, Daffy | 1.93 | 28 |
| 58 | Shachar Hirshberg Co-Founder & CEO, Artemis | 1.92 | 13 |
| 59 | Sam Chaudhary Co-founder & CEO, ClassDojo | 1.92 | 24 |
| 60 | Saumil Mehta Global President, Ticketmaster | 1.9 | 30 |
| 61 | Imad Akhund CEO & Co-Founder, Mercury | 1.89 | 27 |
| 62 | Christopher Payne Former President & COO, DoorDash | 1.84 | 25 |
| 63 | Gorkem Yurtseven Co-Founder & CTO, fal | 1.82 | 28 |
| 64 | Eilon Reshef Co-founder & Chief Product Officer, Gong | 1.81 | 26 |
| 65 | Jeff Shiner Executive Chair, 1Password | 1.79 | 24 |
| 66 | Kiren Sekar Chief Product Officer, Samsara | 1.78 | 23 |
| 67 | Bob Moore Co-Founder & CEO, Crossbeam | 1.78 | 27 |
| 68 | Laura Behrens Wu Founder & CEO, Shippo | 1.76 | 21 |
| 69 | Neha Narkhede Co-founder & CEO, Oscilar | 1.75 | 24 |
| 70 | Yuhki Yamashita Chief Product Officer, Figma | 1.71 | 14 |
| 71 | Jeanne DeWitt Grosser COO, Vercel | 1.7 | 20 |
| 72 | Abhinav Asthana Co-founder & CEO, Postman | 1.7 | 20 |
| 73 | Kyle Parrish Partner, Craft Ventures | 1.65 | 31 |
| 74 | Ashley Kramer Chief Revenue Officer, ElevenLabs | 1.65 | 23 |
| 75 | Tomer London Co-founder & Chief Product Officer, Gusto | 1.63 | 27 |
| 76 | Adit Abraham Co-founder & CEO, Reducto | 1.6 | 30 |
| 77 | Michael Cieri Chief Product Officer, BILL Holdings | 1.6 | 20 |
| 78 | Bill Magnuson Co-Founder & CEO, Braze | 1.57 | 14 |
| 79 | Anastasis Germanidis Co-Founder & Co-CEO, Runway | 1.56 | 27 |
| 80 | Kevin Busque Co-founder & CEO, Guideline | 1.49 | 43 |
| 81 | Cameron Adams Co-founder & CPO, Canva | 1.37 | 27 |
Companies
The most bearish calls
Debate potential is an AI score of how much a statement invites disagreement. Bearish counts tally what was said about a company on the show; they describe the conversation, not the company. Every count opens to the exact tape. full disclaimer →
All 138 companies, funds and products with at least one bearish claim on the record.
| Company | Bearish statements | Of which 4–5 |
|---|---|---|
| Google company | 12 ↓ | 3 |
| Sentry company | 10 ↓ | 2 |
| Stripe company | 6 ↓ | — |
| Square company | 6 ↓ | — |
| Serval company | 6 ↓ | — |
| Linear company | 6 ↓ | — |
| Dropbox company | 6 ↓ | 2 |
| Writer company | 5 ↓ | — |
| Uber company | 5 ↓ | — |
| Microsoft company | 5 ↓ | — |
| Meta company | 5 ↓ | — |
| Dbt Labs company | 5 ↓ | — |
| TaskRabbit company | 4 ↓ | — |
| Snowflake company | 4 ↓ | — |
| Slack company | 4 ↓ | — |
| Salesforce company | 4 ↓ | — |
| Plaid company | 4 ↓ | — |
| Lattice company | 4 ↓ | — |
| Jira product | 4 ↓ | — |
| Intercom company | 4 ↓ | 2 |
| Confluent company | 4 ↓ | — |
| 1Password company | 4 ↓ | — |
| Zapier company | 3 ↓ | — |
| Xero company | 3 ↓ | — |
| Vercel company | 3 ↓ | — |
| Sprig company | 3 ↓ | — |
| Shippo company | 3 ↓ | — |
| PowerPoint product | 3 ↓ | — |
| Meter company | 3 ↓ | — |
| Kafka product | 3 ↓ | — |
| Gong company | 3 ↓ | — |
| Figma company | 3 ↓ | — |
| DoorDash company | 3 ↓ | — |
| Dock company | 3 ↓ | — |
| Clay company | 3 ↓ | — |
| Atlassian company | 3 ↓ | — |
| Applied Intuition company | 3 ↓ | — |
| Airbnb company | 3 ↓ | — |
| Y Combinator fund | 2 ↓ | 1 |
| Verkada company | 2 ↓ | — |
| Samsara company | 2 ↓ | — |
| RJMetrics company | 2 ↓ | — |
| Rewind AI company | 2 ↓ | — |
| Postman company | 2 ↓ | 1 |
| Persona company | 2 ↓ | — |
| Notion company | 2 ↓ | — |
| Microsoft Office product | 2 ↓ | 1 |
| Loom company | 2 ↓ | — |
| Looker company | 2 ↓ | — |
| Guideline company | 2 ↓ | — |
| Google Slides product | 2 ↓ | — |
| Google Docs product | 2 ↓ | 1 |
| Gamma company | 2 ↓ | — |
| Fal.ai company | 2 ↓ | — |
| ClassDojo company | 2 ↓ | — |
| Canva company | 2 ↓ | — |
| Apple company | 2 ↓ | — |
| Amazon Web Services company | 2 ↓ | — |
| Amazon company | 2 ↓ | — |
| Zoox company | 1 ↓ | — |
| Workday company | 1 ↓ | 1 |
| WordPress.com product | 1 ↓ | — |
| Wix company | 1 ↓ | 1 |
| Windows product | 1 ↓ | — |
| WeWork company | 1 ↓ | — |
| Wealthfront company | 1 ↓ | — |
| Wag company | 1 ↓ | — |
| VMware company | 1 ↓ | — |
| Vanta company | 1 ↓ | — |
| V0 product | 1 ↓ | — |
| Unblocked company | 1 ↓ | — |
| Twilio company | 1 ↓ | — |
| TripActions company | 1 ↓ | — |
| Tinder company | 1 ↓ | — |
| TikTok product | 1 ↓ | — |
| Tesla company | 1 ↓ | — |
| Tableau company | 1 ↓ | — |
| SYSTM company | 1 ↓ | — |
| Superhuman company | 1 ↓ | — |
| Stedi company | 1 ↓ | — |
| Squarespace company | 1 ↓ | — |
| Shopify company | 1 ↓ | — |
| ServiceNow company | 1 ↓ | — |
| Service CEO product | 1 ↓ | 1 |
| Scribe company | 1 ↓ | — |
| S Three product | 1 ↓ | — |
| Rover company | 1 ↓ | — |
| Rippling company | 1 ↓ | 1 |
| Replit company | 1 ↓ | — |
| Reducto company | 1 ↓ | — |
| Parallel company | 1 ↓ | — |
| Palantir company | 1 ↓ | — |
| Oscilar company | 1 ↓ | — |
| Oracle company | 1 ↓ | — |
| Next.js product | 1 ↓ | — |
| .NET product | 1 ↓ | — |
| Navan company | 1 ↓ | — |
| Model X product | 1 ↓ | — |
| Mercury company | 1 ↓ | — |
| LinkedIn company | 1 ↓ | — |
| Levels.fyi company | 1 ↓ | — |
| Kippt company | 1 ↓ | — |
| Java product | 1 ↓ | — |
| Instagram product | 1 ↓ | — |
| IBM company | 1 ↓ | 1 |
| Harness company | 1 ↓ | — |
| Hacker News product | 1 ↓ | — |
| Grubhub company | 1 ↓ | — |
| Google Wave product | 1 ↓ | — |
| Google Suite product | 1 ↓ | — |
| Google Glass product | 1 ↓ | — |
| Google Buzz product | 1 ↓ | — |
| GOAT company | 1 ↓ | — |
| Flickr company | 1 ↓ | — |
| Excel product | 1 ↓ | — |
| Evernote company | 1 ↓ | — |
| Etsy company | 1 ↓ | — |
| Django product | 1 ↓ | — |
| Datadog company | 1 ↓ | — |
| Cybertruck product | 1 ↓ | — |
| Crossbeam Venture Partners company | 1 ↓ | — |
| Coinbase company | 1 ↓ | — |
| Cloud9 company | 1 ↓ | — |
| Cisco company | 1 ↓ | — |
| ChatGPT product | 1 ↓ | — |
| Carta company | 1 ↓ | — |
| Brex company | 1 ↓ | — |
| Braze company | 1 ↓ | — |
| Braintrust company | 1 ↓ | — |
| Box company | 1 ↓ | 1 |
| Azure AI product | 1 ↓ | — |
| Automattic company | 1 ↓ | — |
| Ascensus company | 1 ↓ | — |
| Asana company | 1 ↓ | — |
| App Store product | 1 ↓ | — |
| Apache Kafka product | 1 ↓ | — |
| Amazon Mechanical Turk product | 1 ↓ | — |
| Akamai company | 1 ↓ | — |
Highest debate potential, by year
2026
Noronha: Design-oriented creative software cannot succeed under a 996 work culture
“Creative products that are oriented around creating that special experience that are often about restraint and doing less, I don't think are very well served by this mindset. They're well served by creating space for exploring multiple different paths in paral…”
2025
Software customizability is 'stupid' for small businesses because it hurts sales
“So from the beginning, we took this very contrarian stance that customizability is stupid. What we actually want is this proven system that has all of the best practices out of the box in a way that the small business owner can't screw up, and we're not going …”
Startups should treat competitors as free R&D factories and shamelessly copy successes
“You can think of them as free research and development factories, where they're constantly running a bunch of experiments on the same group of customers, and when some of those experiments Work well. It makes a ton of sense to just shamelessly copy that approa…”