Matt MacInnis
Chief Product Officer, Rippling · 1 appearance on the record.
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Matt MacInnis serves as Chief Product Officer at workforce management platform Rippling, having previously served as its Chief Operating Officer. Prior to Rippling, he spent eight years in management roles at Apple and was the co-founder and CEO of mobile learning platform Inkling.
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MacInnis: A top SMB payroll rival lost its edge by adopting Workday
“This company, you know, is pretty well known, and they've got a good SMB payroll business going, but like, at a certain scale, they switched to Workday. When they switched to Workday, they stopped using their own product, and when they stopped using their own …”
MacInnis: 98% of coaching is vapid blood sucking by poor operators
“Coaching is stupid. Most of it is just vapid blood sucking on the part of people who weren't very good operators and decided to make a career charging people by the hour to tell them how to be good operators. That's like 98% of the market.”
MacInnis: Rippling CEO Parker Conrad lacks empathy when delivering directives
“One area where my CEO Parker spikes is like, he's very direct, does not pull any punches. He almost, you might even say lacks empathy when it comes to delivering a directive or difficult information to somebody.”
MacInnis: Effective second-in-commands enable CEOs to act with impunity
“The CEO job, the most successful CEOs act with impunity in the work environment in a way that number one, a good CEO doesn't really think about it. And number two, a good second in command does think about that and enable it.”
MacInnis: Every successful outcome is led by a deeply impatient founder
“Every successful outcome is led by a founder who is deeply impatient, really impatient.”
MacInnis: All teams at Rippling are deliberately kept understaffed
“All of our teams at Rippling are pretty deliberately understaffed and people feel it and they'll complain about resourcing, but like at the end of the day, a team of five that ought to be seven is way better than a team of nine or 10 that ought to be seven.”
MacInnis: The cure for company politics is keeping teams overloaded with work
“The cure to politics is not to lecture people about being apolitical. It's to make sure the team has too much to do.”
MacInnis: Parker Conrad approves every Rippling expense over $5
“Parker still approves every expense over five dollars personally. He still runs payroll for the whole company globally in our product.”
MacInnis: CEOs who embrace coaching perform worse as executives
“I'm friends with many CEOs who I've, you know, met over the years of having been one and then doing this job, and the folks who are really into the coaching and really into the touchy-feely stuff for themselves on the balance just have not performed as well as…”
MacInnis: Founders should ask for relevant experience rather than advice
“If you ask someone for relevant experience, then if they have some first advantage is that like you get to integrate their experience into your context, as opposed to trying to give them a bunch of context so that they can chew the cud for you and give you the…”
MacInnis: Product marketing rarely demands deep first-principles thinking
“If you look into the ocean of product marketers, it's kind of like shopping at Ross. It is not a job that demands a lot of really deep first principles thought from people in the job.”
MacInnis: All alpha and outperformance comes from anti-patterns
“All alpha, all outperformance relative to the index comes from anti-patterns. Patterns are the things people do over and over again... None of it is predictive of success. It's the anti-pattern.”
MacInnis: Successful CEOs blindly apply instincts without worrying about downsides
“One thing that's really clear about successful CEOs is that they don't ever really worry about the downside of their strengths. Like they just go almost blindly, just like at the business, applying their instincts.”
MacInnis: Anyone starting a company is definitionally narcissistic about failure odds
“Everybody who starts a company is almost definitionally narcissistic and sort of believes that they are not subject to the statistics.”
MacInnis: Repeat founders prioritize product and hard driving over peripheral worries
“The third time you start the company, you're like, fuck that. Like that doesn't matter. What matters is I got to get the right product into the hands of the customer immediately. And I've got to test it in market and I've got to focus on sales and win rates. A…”
MacInnis: Asking 'Do I look like an asshole?' is egomaniacal for founders
“What if I look like an asshole is a fundamentally egomaniacal question. It's a terrible question to ask. The right question to ask is what's it going to take to win?”
MacInnis: Executives must oversteer toward tighter constraints to fight entropy
“I find that executives need to deliberately oversteer in the direction they want, even to the point of it being a little crazy, but it's because they are the sole tension on the line of tighter constraints, higher bars, harder, you know, harder standards versu…”
MacInnis: Most executive decisions are coin tosses
“Like, the vast majority of executive decisions are coin tosses.”
MacInnis: Hiring managers should never ask others who to hire
“Hiring managers should not ask someone else who they should hire. They should simply ask for objective inputs to the decision, and then they can make the decision themselves.”
MacInnis: Elite founders are energized by work but tortured by fear of failure
“I think they're fucking filled with happiness and enjoyment and energy and also tortured by the fear of failure and by whatever demons drive them or whatever passion drives them. Like there's this awesome Jekyll and Hyde yin yang You know, dynamic to what it's…”
MacInnis: Clear thinkers rely on experience rather than high intelligence
“Clear thinkers don't have to be that smart. They just have to be experienced, or they have to have lots of at-bats on a given topic until they've rounded out their understanding of a system. They might not understand why something is the way it is, but they da…”
MacInnis: Rippling avoided hiring traditional product marketers for GTM
“And so in our case, in building out what we call a go to market management team, because we didn't even want to use the term product marketing. We didn't want to go shopping in that pool for talent. We were able to be focused on hiring people who were demonstr…”
MacInnis: Too much first-principles thinking causes over-engineering and stalls execution
“Oh my God, yes, you can have too many first principles thinkers because they have a tendency to over-engineer things. Not so much about having too many first principles thinkers as it is having too many people doing first principles thought. There's only so ma…”
Appearances (1)
| Episode | Date | Speaking time |
|---|---|---|
| How to be effective up and down the org chart | Matt MacInnis (Rippling, Inkling, Apple) | Apr 25, 2024 | 1h 3m |