DoorDash

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21 statements across 3 episodes · 7 bullish · 3 bearish · 3 people on the record · first statement May 30, 2024 by Casey Winters · said 58 times in 6 episodes since 2023 · across every show →

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brought up most by Christopher Payne (33), Brett Berson (12), Casey Winters (8), Adam Guild (2), Wade Foster (1), Kevin Busque (1), Dan Siroker (1)

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Everything said about DoorDash, oldest first

May 30, 2024 bearish
Insight
Winters: A $100M public company cannot beat rivals with $4B in capital
“I just don't think there's a way that a public company that raised like a hundred million in IPO is going to outcompete. Companies that have raised four billion dollars each, I think, in Uber and DoorDash like to crush you.”
Casey Winters May 30, 2024 ▶ 29:30 How to build and scale winning marketplaces | Casey Winters (Eventbrite, Pinterest, Grubhub)
May 30, 2024 neutral
Opinion
Winters: Grubhub's only winning move was acquiring DoorDash and appointing Tony Xu
“The only thing they could have done was buy DoorDash as early as possible, and then basically let Tony run the company and build a delivery network.”
Casey Winters May 30, 2024 ▶ 29:13 How to build and scale winning marketplaces | Casey Winters (Eventbrite, Pinterest, Grubhub)
May 30, 2024
Assertion Supported
Winters: Tony Xu delivered DoorDash orders himself for the first year
“Tony at DoorDash was delivering the meals himself. For like the first year, right? Cause he didn't know how to acquire drivers yet. And he didn't want to work on that until he validated that there was a real product there.”
Casey Winters May 30, 2024 ▶ 16:42 How to build and scale winning marketplaces | Casey Winters (Eventbrite, Pinterest, Grubhub)
May 30, 2024 positive
Assertion Supported
Winters: The pandemic permanently fixed DoorDash's unit economics by eliminating latency
“Then the pandemic hits and all the unit economics of DoorDash flipped positive because everyone's all of a sudden ordering online and all the drivers are much more busy, which means all the latency in the model that was creating the losses went away.”
Casey Winters May 30, 2024 ▶ 27:16 How to build and scale winning marketplaces | Casey Winters (Eventbrite, Pinterest, Grubhub)
Mar 27, 2025 negative
Assertion Supported
Delivery apps charge restaurants 30% and consumers 20% on average per order
“It's not just 30% that these delivery apps take from the restaurant. It's also 20% on average that they're charging the consumer.”
Adam Guild Mar 27, 2025 ▶ 42:43 Scrappy tactics and a huge post-COVID pivot | Adam Guild (Co-founder and CEO of Owner)
Mar 27, 2025 positive
Assertion Supported
Guild: Most restaurant discovery happens on Google, not DoorDash or Uber Eats
“It's still not DoorDash or Uber Eats. The vast majority of restaurant discovery still happens on Google, but that was especially true eight years ago.”
Adam Guild Mar 27, 2025 ▶ 25:29 Scrappy tactics and a huge post-COVID pivot | Adam Guild (Co-founder and CEO of Owner)
Apr 17, 2026
Disclosure
Payne: I founded DoorDash's platform business as its first new S-curve
“Like one of the first things I did at DoorDash, cause I had a lot of experience with this is I, even though DoorDash was very young, I founded the first new S curve at DoorDash, which was The platform business.”
Christopher Payne Apr 17, 2026 ▶ 4:53 Scaling DoorDash to market dominance | Christopher Payne (Former COO, DoorDash)
Apr 17, 2026 positive
Insight
Payne: Test operations locally before expanding, but change pricing writ large
“If I'm tackling a problem, if I can break it down into sub parts where I can work on a problem, DoorDash was great for this because you, instead of trying to launch everything across the United States all at once, you're like, no, I'm going to start this proje…”
Christopher Payne Apr 17, 2026 ▶ 23:24 Scaling DoorDash to market dominance | Christopher Payne (Former COO, DoorDash)
Apr 17, 2026
Insight
Payne: Skipping ground-level local testing before national scaling guarantees failure
“If you just try to run to the end, you won't have the lessons that are necessary to be successful because the problem is not homogenous.”
Christopher Payne Apr 17, 2026 ▶ 13:59 Scaling DoorDash to market dominance | Christopher Payne (Former COO, DoorDash)
Apr 17, 2026
Assertion Supported
Payne: DoorDash was running out of money and couldn't raise in 2017
“There were periods where DoorDash was running out of money and couldn't raise money in 17”
Christopher Payne Apr 17, 2026 ▶ 55:16 Scaling DoorDash to market dominance | Christopher Payne (Former COO, DoorDash)
Apr 17, 2026
Assertion Supported
Payne: DoorDash's nationwide expansion succeeded through remote city launches
“And DoorDash cracked that. That was our, we figured out how to expand economically remotely. And that, that allowed us to expand across the country. Everybody calls it the suburb strategy, but it really was an expansion strategy.”
Christopher Payne Apr 17, 2026 ▶ 42:21 Scaling DoorDash to market dominance | Christopher Payne (Former COO, DoorDash)
Apr 17, 2026 neutral
Disclosure
Payne: Watching Tony Xu at DoorDash convinced me not to be CEO
“I decided I don't want to be a CEO. Like I was a CEO of my little company, but the truth is I watched Tony and I was like, holy cow. Like, I don't really like this job that he has. Right. I like my job. Right. And so one of the things for me is like, I've been…”
Christopher Payne Apr 17, 2026 ▶ 24:27 Scaling DoorDash to market dominance | Christopher Payne (Former COO, DoorDash)
Apr 17, 2026
Insight
Payne: Operational inspection requires generalizing granular details with data
“I think the thing that people get wrong though, about details is that you need to be able to go down to the detail. But you must be able to then generalize that and then look at the data to find out whether that detail is interesting or important or not.”
Christopher Payne Apr 17, 2026 ▶ 7:53 Scaling DoorDash to market dominance | Christopher Payne (Former COO, DoorDash)
Apr 17, 2026 positive
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Payne: DoorDash targeted gross margin profit at 6 months, contribution profit at 12
“So you have to hit six months of volume to get the gross margin positive, and then you have to get to 12 months at a certain volume to get what we call contribution margin profit. To flow through the bottom line.”
Christopher Payne Apr 17, 2026 ▶ 1:57 Scaling DoorDash to market dominance | Christopher Payne (Former COO, DoorDash)
Apr 17, 2026 positive
Disclosure
Payne: Focusing deeply on two to three problem areas quarterly scales executive leverage
“It's a strategy I've used in my career to scale myself. And so every quarter I might have two or three of those special areas that I'm going deep on with the hope that I can kind of scale myself. And to your question, I'm hoping I'm, while I'm doing that and h…”
Christopher Payne Apr 17, 2026 ▶ 12:00 Scaling DoorDash to market dominance | Christopher Payne (Former COO, DoorDash)
Apr 17, 2026 positive
Assertion Partly supported
Payne: Tony Xu and I pitched The Cheesecake Factory in person
“Tony and I, who was showing up at the Cheesecake Factory selling the Cheesecake Factory? It was Tony and me, right? We were the little engine that could, right? We, and we were like, we're not in Rideshare. We're in food delivery. We're gonna, we're in, so the…”
Christopher Payne Apr 17, 2026 ▶ 57:25 Scaling DoorDash to market dominance | Christopher Payne (Former COO, DoorDash)
Apr 17, 2026
Insight
Payne: Hypergrowth operating processes are guaranteed to fail within six months
“I say the thing you're doing now is guaranteed to not work six months from now, right? Guaranteed.”
Christopher Payne Apr 17, 2026 ▶ 40:39 Scaling DoorDash to market dominance | Christopher Payne (Former COO, DoorDash)
Apr 17, 2026 neutral
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Payne: DoorDash never subsidized expansion by selling dollars for 90 cents
“For a while, there was a narrative like, oh, we're giving away dollars for 90 cents. Absolutely not. You couldn't do that because you would lose money very, very rapidly. Too fast for a company that didn't have a lot of money.”
Christopher Payne Apr 17, 2026 ▶ 1:39 Scaling DoorDash to market dominance | Christopher Payne (Former COO, DoorDash)
Apr 17, 2026 positive
Assertion Not publicly verifiable
Payne: DoorDash grocery, retail, alcohol, and Drive are each multi-billion dollar businesses
“So if you look at DoorDash, you'll say, okay, it's restaurants, it's grocery, it's alcohol, it's retail, right? It's DoorDash Drive, our platform business. All of these now are multi-billion dollar businesses that are, and so you have to have that.”
Christopher Payne Apr 17, 2026 ▶ 6:23 Scaling DoorDash to market dominance | Christopher Payne (Former COO, DoorDash)
Apr 17, 2026
Insight
Payne: Leaders must ring-fence 10% of resources to protect new initiatives
“As an executive that starts these new S curves, one of the things I've learned is that it's my job to protect those S curves, because what's gonna happen is even in a small organization like DoorDash and really in a large organization, Everybody tries to kill …”
Christopher Payne Apr 17, 2026 ▶ 5:17 Scaling DoorDash to market dominance | Christopher Payne (Former COO, DoorDash)
Apr 17, 2026 negative
Insight
Payne: Bottom-up goal setting suppresses corporate ambition
“One of the things that I do is I tend to be very initially tops down in goal setting. A lot of companies are in teams are bottoms up in goal setting. And I found that that is not a great way to have ambition.”
Christopher Payne Apr 17, 2026 ▶ 50:56 Scaling DoorDash to market dominance | Christopher Payne (Former COO, DoorDash)
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