The Argument Index

Debate potential by speaker, the highest-scored statement each year, and the companies with the most bearish calls on record. All of it clickable, all of it playable.

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Average debate potential by speaker

All 153 guests with 5 or more scored statements, ranked. 6 more have fewer than 5, too few for a fair average, and the host is scored on his own page. Sort or filter below.

#PersonAvg debate potential Statements scored
1 Russ Vaught Director, Office of Management and Budget 4.06 16
2 Coleman Hughes Author & Host, Conversations with Coleman 3.4 45
3 Marc Andreessen Co-Founder and General Partner, Andreessen Horowitz 3.38 39
4 Phil Gramm Nonresident Senior Fellow, AEI 3.38 21
5 Leonard Leo Co-Chairman, The Federalist Society 3.36 11
6 Roland Fryer Professor of Economics, Harvard University 3.33 12
7 Peter Thiel Partner and Co-Founder, Founders Fund 3.29 28
8 Balaji Srinivasan Founder, The Network School 3.27 37
9 Balaji Sr i n i v a s a n Founder, The Network School 3.25 16
10 Senator Eric Schmitt U.S. Senator, U.S. Senate 3.21 14
11 Zachary Levi Founder, Wyldwood Studios 3.19 16
12 Max Meyer Founder & Publisher, Arena Magazine 3.18 11
13 Niall Ferguson Senior Fellow, Hoover Institution 3.16 31
14 Congressman Mike Gallagher Head of Defense, Palantir Technologies 3.16 19
15 Dave Rubin Comedian & Media Host 3.14 14
16 Matt Ridley Author & Columnist 3.12 16
17 Bari Weiss Journalist & Founder, Substack Newsletter 3.11 9
18 Rep. Ro Khanna U.S. Representative, U.S. House of Representatives 3.11 18
19 Alex Karp Co-founder & CEO, Palantir Technologies 3.11 18
20 Anson Frerichs Founder, Athletic Capital 3.11 9
21 Dr. Cliff Winston Senior Fellow, Brookings Institution 3.08 12
22 Crown Prince Reza Pahlavi Crown Prince of Iran 3.07 15
23 Carlos Carvalho President, University of Austin 3.07 27
24 Aaron Levie Co-Founder & CEO, Box 3.06 16
25 Stephen Harper Board Chair, AIMCo 3 21
26 Philip Howard Founder and Chair, Common Good 3 12
27 Thomas Chatterton Williams Staff Writer, The Atlantic 2.96 23
28 Judge Glock Director of Research, Manhattan Institute 2.92 25
29 Tom Cotton U.S. Senator, United States Senate 2.92 26
30 Tyler Cowen Professor of Economics, George Mason University 2.91 22
31 Maria Corina Machado National Coordinator, Vente Venezuela 2.91 22
32 Eboo Patel Founder & President, Interfaith America 2.9 10
33 Guillaume Verdon Founder & CEO, Extropic 2.89 19
34 Kevin Stitt Governor, State of Oklahoma 2.88 25
35 Mike Solana CMO, Founders Fund 2.88 17
36 Mike Pompeo Partner, Niobrara Investment Partners 2.86 21
37 Joe Liemandt Principal, Alpha School 2.85 27
38 Keri Findley Founder and CEO, Tacora Capital 2.8 5
39 Ambassador Kelly Craft Head, Kelly G. Knight LLC 2.8 15
40 Richard Sandler Executive Vice President, Milken Family Foundation 2.8 10
41 Jonathan Greenblatt CEO and National Director, Anti-Defamation League 2.79 19
42 Steve Hilton Founder and CEO, Golden Together 2.79 19
43 Sam Lessin Founding Partner, Slow Ventures 2.76 21
44 Tim Urban Co-Founder & Writer, Wait But Why 2.75 16
45 Bjorn Lomborg President, Copenhagen Consensus Center 2.72 18
46 Brendan McCord Founder & Chair, Cosmos Institute 2.67 18
47 Dr. Mike Israetel Co-Founder, Renaissance Periodization 2.66 29
48 Shyam Sankar CTO & EVP, Palantir Technologies 2.62 21
49 Ethan Penner Chairman, Hill Street Realty 2.6 10
50 JD Ross Co-Founder & CEO, With Coverage 2.6 25
51 Wilbur Ross Former Secretary, U.S. Department of Commerce 2.59 22
52 Whitney Baker Founder & CIO, Totem Macro 2.57 14
53 Sujay Jaswa Founding Partner & Managing Partner, WndrCo 2.56 18
54 Iyinoluwa Aboyeji Founding Partner, Future Africa 2.56 25
55 Paul Atkins Chairman, U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission 2.56 16
56 Brad Gerstner Founder & CEO, Altimeter Capital 2.54 24
57 Kevin Mandia Founder & CEO, Armadin 2.54 24
58 Alex Kolicich Founding Partner & CIO, 8VC 2.53 17
59 Elad Gil Founder, Gil Capital 2.52 21
60 Arthur Brooks Professor of the Practice, Harvard Kennedy School 2.5 14
61 Chris Sprowls Managing Partner, Rooker Ward Partners LLC 2.5 18
62 Jacob "Jake" Miller Co-Founder & Chief Solutions Officer, Opto Investments 2.5 12
63 Dmitri Alperovitch Chairman, Silverado Policy Accelerator 2.5 18
64 Kelly Loeffler Administrator, U.S. Small Business Administration 2.47 19
65 Pete Florence Co-founder & CEO, Generalist 2.47 15
66 Jacob Helberg Under Secretary of State, U.S. Department of State 2.44 16
67 Eric Scott Founder, Overlook Capital 2.41 17
68 John Mackey Co-Founder & CEO, Love.Life 2.4 20
69 Jared Meyer Senior Advisor, Cicero Action 2.4 15
70 Nathan Mintz CEO & Co-Founder, CX2 2.4 15
71 Jeff Wu Co-founder & Managing Partner, Anti Fund 2.4 5
72 Jake Paul Co-Founder, Anti Fund 2.4 10
73 Steve Blank Adjunct Professor, Stanford University 2.38 13
74 Andrew McAfee Principal Research Scientist, MIT 2.36 14
75 Bob McGrew Co-founder, Arda 2.36 25
76 Dr. David Ruth Provost, University of Austin 2.36 11
77 Chris Sununu President & CEO, Airlines for America 2.36 11
78 Emil Michael Under Secretary of Defense, U.S. Department of Defense 2.34 47
79 Sebastian Caliri Partner, 8VC 2.33 15
80 Adi Berlia Co-Founder & Pro-Chancellor, Apeejay Stya University 2.33 15
81 Reid Hoffman Partner, Greylock 2.32 25
82 Dr. Clay Johnston Co-founder & CMO, Harbor Health 2.31 13
83 Dylan Sirota Co-founder & CEO, Terminal 2.31 13
84 Dr. Peter Attia Founder, Early Medical 2.3 23
85 Dr. Rick Klausner Co-Chair & Chief Scientific Advisor, Altos Labs 2.29 17
86 Zach Bookman Co-Founder and Chairman Emeritus, OpenGov 2.28 18
87 Dr. Mark Esper Partner, Red Cell Partners 2.25 28
88 Andrew Yang Founder, Forward Party 2.25 16
89 Troy Carter Founder & CEO, Venice Music 2.25 8
90 Jeannette zu Fürstenberg Managing Director & President, General Catalyst 2.24 21
91 Jared Isaacman Administrator, NASA 2.24 17
92 Ashton Kutcher Co-Founder and General Partner, Sound Ventures 2.22 9
93 Pano Kanelos Founding President, University of Austin 2.21 28
94 Boyan Slat Founder & CEO, The Ocean Cleanup 2.19 21
95 Michael Bettersworth Chief Innovation Officer, Texas State Technical College 2.18 11
96 Palmer Luckey Founder, Anduril Industries 2.17 23
97 Mike Reiser Chancellor & CEO, Texas State Technical College 2.17 6
98 John Chambers Founder and CEO, JC2 Ventures 2.17 12
99 Andy Lowery CEO, Epirus 2.17 23
100 Dr. Francisco Gimenez Partner, 8VC 2.16 19
101 Scott Kupor Director, United States Office of Personnel Management 2.15 13
102 Scott Wu Co-founder & CEO, Cognition 2.15 34
103 Dhani Jones Chairman and Founder, Qey Capital 2.14 7
104 Adm. Bill McRaven Professor of National Security, UT Austin 2.13 15
105 Adrian Fenty Founding Managing Partner, MaC Venture Capital 2.11 9
106 Ken Langone Chairman, Invemed Associates 2.06 17
107 Maleka Momand Co-Founder & CEO, Esper 2 22
108 Daniel Lubetzky Founder and Chairman, Camino Partners 2 6
109 Doug Proctor COO, Candid Health 2 5
110 Dr. Rebekah Gee Founder & CEO, Nest Health 2 8
111 Yitz Applbaum Co-Founder and Partner, MizMaa Ventures 2 10
112 Guillermo Rauch Founder & CEO, Vercel 2 14
113 Raj Bhakta Founder, BHAKTA Spirits 2 14
114 Ian Cinnamon Co-Founder and CEO, Apex Space 2 23
115 Aaron Cannon Co-founder & CEO, Outset 2 12
116 Russell Kaplan Co-Founder & President, Cognition 2 17
117 Ryan Holiday Founder & Host, The Daily Stoic 1.95 22
118 Jake DeWitt Co-founder & CEO, Oklo Inc. 1.94 17
119 Nick Perry Co-Founder & CEO, Candid Health 1.93 14
120 Joe Gebbia Founder, Samara 1.92 36
121 Eddie Margain Founder & CEO, Pixiu Investments 1.91 11
122 Sri Ganesan Co-founder & CEO, Rocketlane 1.9 10
123 Gene Berdachevsky Co-Founder & CEO, Sila Nanotechnologies 1.88 17
124 Kimbal Musk Co-Founder & Executive Chairman, The Kitchen Restaurant Group 1.87 15
125 Ben Black CEO, U.S. International Development Finance Corporation 1.87 15
126 Zach Latta Founder and Executive Director, Hack Club 1.86 21
127 Ben Rubinstein Co-Founder, Yodle 1.85 13
128 Bo Marmon Co-founder & CTO, Chaos Industries 1.84 19
129 John Mack Senior Advisor, KKR 1.83 12
130 Kimmy Scotti Co-Founder, Fig.1 Beauty 1.82 11
131 Tony Fadell Principal, Build Collective 1.81 16
132 Jimmy John Liautaud Founder & former Chairman, Jimmy John's 1.81 16
133 Tade Oyerinde Founder & Chancellor, Campus 1.8 15
134 Scott Nolan Founder & CEO, General Matter 1.78 18
135 Eliot Hodges CEO, Anduin 1.75 8
136 Charles Koch Chairman & Co-CEO, Koch, Inc. 1.74 19
137 Nima Ghamsari Co-Founder & CEO, Blend 1.73 11
138 JoeBen Bevirt Founder & CEO, Joby Aviation 1.72 54
139 Sal Churi Founder & General Partner, Trust Ventures 1.71 7
140 John Milles-Kiriazzi Co-Founder & CEO, Standard Metrics 1.71 14
141 Tyler Scriven Co-Founder & CEO, Saltbox 1.7 10
142 Dino Mavrucas Co-Founder and CEO, Saronic Technologies 1.67 12
143 Boris Sofman Co-Founder and CEO, Bedrock Robotics 1.67 18
144 Harish Abbott Co-Founder and CEO, Augment 1.67 18
145 Hayes Barnard Founder & CEO, GoodLeap 1.62 13
146 Ivan Dimov Co-founder & CEO, Orca Bio 1.62 13
147 Will Fry Founder & CEO, American Operator 1.62 16
148 Maria Davidson Founder & CEO, Kojo 1.6 15
149 Jake Kloberdanz Founder & CEO, ONEHOPE Wine 1.58 12
150 Dr. Clarence Jones Chairman, Spill the Honey Foundation 1.57 14
151 Byron Boots Co-Founder & CEO, Overland AI 1.57 14
152 Rahul Gandhi CEO, Crossterra 1.44 9
153 Maureen Hillenmeyer CEO & Co-Founder, Hexagon Bio 1.35 17
Companies

The most bearish calls

Debate potential is an AI score of how much a statement invites disagreement. Bearish counts tally what was said about a company on the show; they describe the conversation, not the company. Every count opens to the exact tape. full disclaimer →

All 159 companies, funds and products with at least one bearish claim on the record.

Company Bearish statements Of which 4–5
TikTok product 9 ↓ 3
Google company 8 ↓ 1
Facebook company 8 ↓ 3
Palantir company 6 ↓ 3
Twitter company 5 ↓ 1
OpenAI company 5 ↓ 1
The New York Times company 5 ↓ 5
The Ocean Cleanup company 4 ↓ 2
Apple company 4 ↓
Uber company 3 ↓ 1
Terminal product 3 ↓
OpenGov company 3 ↓
Joby Aviation company 3 ↓ 2
Goldman Sachs company 3 ↓
Boeing company 3 ↓ 2
Anheuser Busch company 3 ↓
YouTube company 2 ↓
WhistlePig company 2 ↓
US Dollar product 2 ↓ 2
University Of Phoenix company 2 ↓
SpaceX company 2 ↓
PayPal company 2 ↓
iPhone product 2 ↓
Instagram product 2 ↓ 1
Harvey company 2 ↓
Grail company 2 ↓ 1
Esper company 2 ↓
Drexel Burnham Lambert fund 2 ↓
Candid Health company 2 ↓
Bubble company 2 ↓
Blend company 2 ↓
BlackRock fund 2 ↓
Bitcoin product 2 ↓ 1
Amazon company 2 ↓
8VC fund 2 ↓
Zynga company 1 ↓
World Trade Organization company 1 ↓ 1
World Health Organization company 1 ↓ 1
WndrCo fund 1 ↓
Wired company 1 ↓ 1
Wild Oats company 1 ↓
Wikipedia company 1 ↓
Whole Foods Market company 1 ↓
WhatsApp product 1 ↓ 1
WeChat product 1 ↓
Walgreens company 1 ↓
Vanguard fund 1 ↓
U.S. Treasury Bonds product 1 ↓
TSMC company 1 ↓
Trump Taj Mahal Casino company 1 ↓
True Glory Brands company 1 ↓
Townstone company 1 ↓ 1
Totem Macro company 1 ↓
Tokyo Electron company 1 ↓
Tesla company 1 ↓
TechCrunch company 1 ↓ 1
TA Associates fund 1 ↓ 1
T 90 Tank product 1 ↓
Symantec company 1 ↓
Stripe company 1 ↓
State Street company 1 ↓
Starlink product 1 ↓
Spotify company 1 ↓
SoftBank Group fund 1 ↓ 1
Silicon Valley Bank company 1 ↓ 1
Sila Nanotechnologies company 1 ↓
Scientific American company 1 ↓ 1
Sandoz company 1 ↓
Rumble company 1 ↓
Rio Tinto company 1 ↓
Renaissance Periodization company 1 ↓
Recreation.gov product 1 ↓
Raytheon company 1 ↓ 1
ProPublica company 1 ↓ 1
Project Maven product 1 ↓
Politico company 1 ↓
Pixar company 1 ↓
Pirate Wires company 1 ↓ 1
Pearson company 1 ↓
Patreon company 1 ↓
Pappy Van Winkle product 1 ↓ 1
Outset company 1 ↓
Orca Bio company 1 ↓
Oracle company 1 ↓ 1
OpCity company 1 ↓ 1
Oklo company 1 ↓
Oculus company 1 ↓
NVIDIA company 1 ↓
Novartis company 1 ↓
NATO company 1 ↓
MSCI company 1 ↓
Morgan Stanley company 1 ↓
MixerLabs company 1 ↓
Microsoft company 1 ↓
Merrill Lynch company 1 ↓
McKinsey And Company company 1 ↓
McAfee company 1 ↓
The Macallan company 1 ↓
Mac product 1 ↓
LinkedIn company 1 ↓
Lehman Brothers company 1 ↓
The Lancet company 1 ↓ 1
The Kitchen Restaurant Group company 1 ↓
Keystone company 1 ↓
Jimmy John's company 1 ↓ 1
Infosys company 1 ↓
Inflection AI company 1 ↓
InBev company 1 ↓
Illumina company 1 ↓ 1
Hudson company 1 ↓
Hopin company 1 ↓
Grokipedia product 1 ↓
GPT 5 product 1 ↓
GPT 4.5 product 1 ↓
Gmail product 1 ↓
General Motors company 1 ↓ 1
Gazprom company 1 ↓
Friend's Company With The Digs Tunnels company 1 ↓
Founders Fund fund 1 ↓
Forbes company 1 ↓ 1
First Republic Bank company 1 ↓ 1
Fire Phone product 1 ↓
Figma company 1 ↓
Fentanyl product 1 ↓ 1
Excel product 1 ↓
Epirus company 1 ↓
Emerson company 1 ↓
Digital Diagnostics company 1 ↓
CVS Caremark company 1 ↓
CVS company 1 ↓
CrowdStrike company 1 ↓
Costco company 1 ↓
Coke product 1 ↓
Coca Cola product 1 ↓ 1
Clase Azul company 1 ↓ 1
ChatGPT product 1 ↓ 1
Casamigos company 1 ↓ 1
California Pension Fund fund 1 ↓
ByteDance company 1 ↓ 1
BuzzFeed company 1 ↓
Bud Light product 1 ↓
Bridgewater Associates fund 1 ↓
Boeing Starliner product 1 ↓ 1
Black Rifle Coffee Company company 1 ↓
Betr company 1 ↓
Bear Stearns company 1 ↓
Aura company 1 ↓
ASML company 1 ↓
Archer Aviation company 1 ↓ 1
Apex company 1 ↓
Anthropic company 1 ↓
Anduril Industries company 1 ↓ 1
Anduin company 1 ↓
Alpha School company 1 ↓
Airbnb company 1 ↓ 1
Aetna company 1 ↓
Andreessen Horowitz fund 1 ↓ 1
60 Minutes product 1 ↓
3G Capital fund 1 ↓

Highest debate potential, by year

2026

Opinion
Black: Donald Trump is the most financially astute US president ever
“President Trump is so fantastic is he is the most financially astute president we've ever had, and he's really focused on how economics makes the world go round and what it means for not just the exercise of American power, but building out the next century to…”
Ben Black Apr 30, 2026 ▶ 16:45 Running DC Like Wall Street: CEO of America's Investment Fund · Joe Lonsdale
Disclosure
Atkins: SEC Will Allow IPOs with Mandatory Arbitration Bylaws
“So, and so what we're doing is so I made it explicit that the commission will not turn away and the staff will not turn away those sorts of would be IPOs if they have a bylaw With either of those two provisions.”
Paul Atkins Jan 26, 2026 ▶ 18:41 Investing in 2026: What You Need to Know (SEC Chairman) · Joe Lonsdale

2025

Assertion Supported
Thiel: Lawsuit discovery proved the Army covered up reports favoring Palantir
“And then when you and then what you can do when you sue somebody is you get discovery and you discover, and you sort of discover what's going on in the sausage making factory that no one's investigated for 22 years. And there's a lot of stuff and we're sort of…”
Peter Thiel Apr 17, 2025 ▶ 12:17 Tariffs, DOGE & Fixing America: Peter Thiel's Skeptic Solutions · Joe Lonsdale
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Andreessen: Universities and employers hire African immigrants over African Americans
“Both the universities and the corporate employers are literally, this is true. They're literally, they literally import Africans so that they don't have to hire African Americans. Because they still count as black.”
Marc Andreessen Jul 3, 2025 ▶ 27:36 From ChatGPT to Billions of Robots: Marc Andreessen’s Prediction · Joe Lonsdale

2024

Assertion Supported
Fryer: Police Study Found Racial Bias in Non-Lethal Force, None in Shootings
“And what we found was that on the lower level uses of force, there are racial differences that we couldn't explain. And we put them through formal bias test, and there is bias that goes on in the lower level uses of force. What we didn't find was any, that tha…”
Roland Fryer Sep 20, 2024 ▶ 13:44 Harvard Economist: The Truth About Police Brutality · Joe Lonsdale
Assertion Contradicted
Verdon: Centralized bioweapon defense research accidentally created a damaging virus
“There was centralized research on Bio, you know, bioweapon defense. Right. And we were worried about a potential virus that could do a lot of damage. And then it was actually accidentally created through that research.”
Guillaume Verdon Jan 31, 2024 ▶ 28:50 Ep 76: Accelerate or Die! Guillaume Verdon and the e/acc Movement · Joe Lonsdale

2023

Opinion
Aboyeji: The American liberal system emasculates Black men
“Look, I'm gonna be honest, and maybe it's a little bit of a controversial point of view, but it's the emasculation of black men. That is just a fact, right? It is a big topic. It is something that, that we talk about. Black men simply have not been empowered b…”
Iyinoluwa Aboyeji Jan 18, 2023 ▶ 15:52 The Greatest Entrepreneur You've Never Heard Of · Joe Lonsdale
Opinion
Pompeo: Federal government unions should be eliminated and workers made at-will
“There should be no government unions. It's just not, it's a non sequitur. They should have rules there where they work at will, just like every other employee, they should be terminable.”
Mike Pompeo Feb 22, 2023 ▶ 3:50 Mike Pompeo: Negotiating with Tyrants, Spy Balloons (or UFOs?) & Why Trump Didn't Ban TikTok · Joe Lonsdale

2022

Opinion
Ro Khanna: Twitter and Facebook Erred in Suppressing Hunter Biden Story
“In fact, you know, in the book I write about how I thought it was a mistake for Twitter to take down some of this stuff about Hunter Biden or Facebook to do that. And I think that story was total hogwash. I think Joe Biden was unfairly attacked because of his …”
Rep. Ro Khanna Jan 14, 2022 ▶ 12:53 Rep. Ro Khanna & Joe Lonsdale Debate Income Inequality and Regulating Big Tech · Joe Lonsdale
Opinion
Lonsdale: China deliberately let COVID spread internationally to share economic harm
“China, China clearly Knew this and covered it up and made sure it spread internationally because otherwise it would have hurt them more than everyone else.”
Joe Lonsdale Feb 3, 2022 ▶ 19:45 Peng Shuai, Beijing Olympics & Holding China Accountable with Former UN Ambassador Kelly Craft · Joe Lonsdale

2021

Opinion
Jaswa: Race-Conscious UC Admissions Policy Feels Strictly Anti-Asian
“I mean, to me, it just feels, you know, strictly anti-Asian, actually.”
Sujay Jaswa Jul 22, 2021 ▶ 11:05 Billion Dollar Wins -- and Losses · Joe Lonsdale
Opinion
Ferguson: US Education System Is Captured by Ideology Hostile to Science
“All of that's become much harder, because our educational system has been captured, now almost from the very bottom, from kindergarten to grad school, by an ideology which is profoundly hostile to the scientific method, and increasingly regards science itself …”
Niall Ferguson Aug 18, 2021 ▶ 8:59 Niall Ferguson: Why Great Civilizations Rise and Fall · Joe Lonsdale
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