TikTok

14 statements across 7 episodes · 4 bullish · 9 bearish · 8 people on the record · first statement Jun 29, 2021 by Ashton Kutcher · said 49 times in 12 episodes since 2021 · across every show →

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Everything said about TikTok, oldest first

Jun 29, 2021 bearish
Opinion
Kutcher warns China could use TikTok to undermine US naval support.
“If I'm China and I want to create a problem in in in that area of the world specifically a Naval problem in that area of the world. I, in the South China sea, I would probably want to utilize TikTok in order to influence the minds of Americans in a anti-US pro…”
Ashton Kutcher Jun 29, 2021 ▶ 22:49 Ashton Kutcher Warns China Could Use TikTok Against the U.S. · Joe Lonsdale
Feb 22, 2023 bearish
Opinion
Pompeo: WeChat poses the same security risks as TikTok for businesses
“We, WeChat presents a similar set of issues as well for companies that are using WeChat as a payment tool or communications tool.”
Mike Pompeo Feb 22, 2023 ▶ 21:16 Mike Pompeo: Negotiating with Tyrants, Spy Balloons (or UFOs?) & Why Trump Didn't Ban TikTok · Joe Lonsdale
Feb 22, 2023 negative
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Pompeo: Internal opposition and late timing prevented Trump's TikTok ban
“Oh, a little bit of bureaucracy, and then frankly you had senior leaders in the administration who didn't want to close the deal out. There were a couple of us advocating for it, and we ran into a buzzsaw, and then there was, we were a little late, Joe, to be …”
Mike Pompeo Feb 22, 2023 ▶ 20:39 Mike Pompeo: Negotiating with Tyrants, Spy Balloons (or UFOs?) & Why Trump Didn't Ban TikTok · Joe Lonsdale
Jun 11, 2023 bullish
Assertion Supported
Rauch: Walmart.com and mobile TikTok web run entirely on Next.js
“Like, walmart.com entirely runs on Next.js. Mobile TikTok runs entirely on Next.js on the web.”
Guillermo Rauch Jun 11, 2023 ▶ 13:54 Ep 61: High School Dropout to Billion-Dollar Startup; the Story of Guillermo Rauch & Vercel · Joe Lonsdale
Nov 30, 2023 negative
Opinion
Lonsdale: US should force TikTok sale rather than outright ban
“Rather than banning it outright, I think we should force it to be sold to an American who controls.”
Joe Lonsdale Nov 30, 2023 ▶ 29:30 Ep 72: Illegal Chinese Bio Labs & Secret Police Inside America! Congressman Mike Gallagher · Joe Lonsdale
Nov 30, 2023 positive
Opinion
Gallagher: Banning foreign adversary control of social media is constitutional
“I think it's incredibly legal and consistent with free speech to prevent a hostile foreign adversary from controlling what is increasingly a media and news platform.”
Congressman Mike Gallagher Nov 30, 2023 ▶ 31:14 Ep 72: Illegal Chinese Bio Labs & Secret Police Inside America! Congressman Mike Gallagher · Joe Lonsdale
Nov 30, 2023 positive
Disclosure
Gallagher: Open to forced TikTok sale if US company gets algorithm
“As long as it comes with algorithmic control, By an American company, I would be fine with a forced sale, and that way American investors who own a bunch of ByteDance don't totally lose a ton of money”
Congressman Mike Gallagher Nov 30, 2023 ▶ 31:30 Ep 72: Illegal Chinese Bio Labs & Secret Police Inside America! Congressman Mike Gallagher · Joe Lonsdale
Apr 3, 2025 bearish
Prediction Didn’t hold up
Lonsdale: Xi Jinping will shut down TikTok rather than allow a sale
“I think because this is such a powerful tool for the CCP that Xi Jinping will not allow it to be Sold out of his control and we'll turn it off instead.”
Joe Lonsdale Apr 3, 2025 ▶ 29:26 Billionaire vs. U.S. Senator: Should TikTok Be Banned? · Joe Lonsdale
Apr 3, 2025 negative
Assertion Contradicted
Cotton: TikTok algorithms suppress content on Hong Kong, Tibet, and Tiananmen Square
“And of course, why you can't see anything on TikTok related to say Hong Kong or Tibet or to Tiananmen Square or the Falun Gong. This is a tool of Chinese communist propaganda.”
Tom Cotton Apr 3, 2025 ▶ 27:27 Billionaire vs. U.S. Senator: Should TikTok Be Banned? · Joe Lonsdale
Apr 3, 2025 neutral
Assertion Supported
Cotton: U.S. law requires ByteDance divestment, not an outright TikTok ban
“It didn't say that we were going to ban TikTok. It said that TikTok's parent company in China had to divest if TikTok continues to operate.”
Tom Cotton Apr 3, 2025 ▶ 28:14 Billionaire vs. U.S. Senator: Should TikTok Be Banned? · Joe Lonsdale
Oct 17, 2025 negative
Opinion
Liemandt: TikTok brainwashes youth to favor socialism and restrict free speech
“The two things that, you know, TikTok that your generation believes that a bunch of people don't is that socialism is better than capitalism and the rights of the listener are better than free speech. And those, that is what's on TikTok, right? Those are the t…”
Joe Liemandt Oct 17, 2025 ▶ 48:40 Secret Tech Billionaire Is Betting $1B on This · Joe Lonsdale
Oct 17, 2025 negative
Insight
Liemandt: Kids retreat to TikTok because schools offer no better options
“Kids don't want to be consumers. They don't want to scroll TikTok and play video games all day. They only do it because our current system basically doesn't give them options.”
Joe Liemandt Oct 17, 2025 ▶ 27:57 Secret Tech Billionaire Is Betting $1B on This · Joe Lonsdale
Mar 19, 2026 negative
Opinion
Jake Paul: Open information is exposing political contradictions like Kamala Harris's
“I think, like, people are becoming smarter and becoming more able to see inauthentic characters and actors and contradictions that people have especially in, in politicians and, you know, exposing Kamala saying one thing over here, then later she's saying this…”
Jake Paul Mar 19, 2026 ▶ 33:28 Jake Paul on Endorsing Trump & the AI Economy · Joe Lonsdale
Mar 19, 2026 positive
Opinion
Jake Paul: TikTok engagement algorithmically amplifies pro-America content and truth
“And I think because of things like TikTok, The truth has just gotten out there more, and so even if you see something of a video that you agree with, just liking, reposting, commenting, those things actually help to drive those videos up and to grow the audien…”
Jake Paul Mar 19, 2026 ▶ 32:36 Jake Paul on Endorsing Trump & the AI Economy · Joe Lonsdale
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