Troy Carter

Founder & CEO, Venice Music · 1 appearance on the record.

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Troy Carter rose to prominence managing superstar artists including Lady Gaga, Eve, Meghan Trainor, and John Legend through his company Atom Factory, later serving as Global Head of Creator Services at Spotify. As an early-stage tech investor, he backed major startups including Uber, Lyft, Dropbox, and Spotify before co-founding music platform Venice Music.

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The record, in short

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Their most notable contradicted claim

Assertion Contradicted

Carter: Philadelphia has not approved a single charter school in eight years

“Philadelphia hasn't approved one charter school in eight years since, since this mayor's been in office.”

Troy Carter Mar 22, 2023 ▶ 33:15 Ep 50: Troy Carter on Discovering Lady Gaga, Future of Music, and Speaking Out on School Choice · Joe Lonsdale

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What they said8 Episodes1

Everything Troy Carter said on American Optimist that made the record, most notable first. Filter by type, assessment or year in the ledger →

Opinion

Carter: Managing software engineers is identical to managing recording artists

“Dude, me, like working with engineers now, you know, with our new startup, I'm like, You know what? They are so close, it's as close as you can get to managing the artists by the way.”

Troy Carter Mar 22, 2023 ▶ 10:21 Ep 50: Troy Carter on Discovering Lady Gaga, Future of Music, and Speaking Out on School Choice · Joe Lonsdale

Disclosure

Carter invested blindly in ContextLogic and missed the Wish pivot

“And you said you were gonna invest, and you said Troy, you should put some money in. And, you know, I honestly, I had no idea what Peter was talking about. Like, I had, you know, a little inkling, but you trusted him so much, and I trusted you so much, I'm lik…”

Troy Carter Mar 22, 2023 ▶ 22:31 Ep 50: Troy Carter on Discovering Lady Gaga, Future of Music, and Speaking Out on School Choice · Joe Lonsdale

Assertion Contradicted

Carter: Philadelphia has not approved a single charter school in eight years

“Philadelphia hasn't approved one charter school in eight years since, since this mayor's been in office.”

Troy Carter Mar 22, 2023 ▶ 33:15 Ep 50: Troy Carter on Discovering Lady Gaga, Future of Music, and Speaking Out on School Choice · Joe Lonsdale

Disclosure

Carter forbids his children from using race as an excuse

“I don't allow my kids to use race as an excuse, and... Yeah, and I, it's not allowed in my house, and like, it's just something I firmly believe in”

Troy Carter Mar 22, 2023 ▶ 35:59 Ep 50: Troy Carter on Discovering Lady Gaga, Future of Music, and Speaking Out on School Choice · Joe Lonsdale

Assertion Not checkable as stated

Carter: Independent artists are music's fastest-growing but most underserved sector

“Independent artists, it's one of the fastest growing sectors in the music industry, but at the same time, it's a very underserved market in terms of technology, in terms of services”

Troy Carter Mar 22, 2023 ▶ 1:27 Ep 50: Troy Carter on Discovering Lady Gaga, Future of Music, and Speaking Out on School Choice · Joe Lonsdale

Insight

Carter: Talent Picking Is Key in Both Music Management and Early-Stage Investing

“I think my personal superpower is being able to pick people, and you know, because as an artist manager, it's like, I can't sign a million artists, you know, so it's like, if you pick, and because you don't make money right away, so it's like, you got to be go…”

Troy Carter Mar 22, 2023 ▶ 21:23 Ep 50: Troy Carter on Discovering Lady Gaga, Future of Music, and Speaking Out on School Choice · Joe Lonsdale

Assertion Not checkable as stated

Carter: Record labels still lack direct customer relationships due to streaming platforms

“All of the technology that's been introduced to the music industry is still one of the only businesses that doesn't have a direct relationship with its customer. So like, if you're a record label Spotify or Apple music or YouTube, they have the direct relation…”

Troy Carter Mar 22, 2023 ▶ 24:19 Ep 50: Troy Carter on Discovering Lady Gaga, Future of Music, and Speaking Out on School Choice · Joe Lonsdale

Assertion Partly supported

Carter: Top managers like Scooter Braun started as party promoters

“Like, Gayo Siri, who manages, like, Madonna Scooter Braun, who manages Bieber, myself, and a few other managers, we were all party promoters.”

Troy Carter Mar 22, 2023 ▶ 7:15 Ep 50: Troy Carter on Discovering Lady Gaga, Future of Music, and Speaking Out on School Choice · Joe Lonsdale

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