Apple

includes Apple Music, Apple Store, Apple News, Apple Pay, Apple Watch

12 statements across 6 episodes · 3 bullish · 4 bearish · 6 people on the record · first statement May 20, 2022 by Tony Fadell · said 55 times in 19 episodes since 2021 · across every show →

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brought up most by Joe Lonsdale (17), Tony Fadell (14), Reid Hoffman (4), Balaji Srinivasan (4), Joe Gebbia (3), Zach Latta (2), Troy Carter (1), Sujay Jaswa (1)

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Everything said about Apple, oldest first

May 20, 2022 positive
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Andy Rubin pitched Android to Apple before selling it to Google
“I got a couple of calls from Andy Rubin at the time, who I worked with at General Magic, working on Android before Android was bought by Google. And so that was really like, Steve, we should listen to this.”
Tony Fadell May 20, 2022 ▶ 23:45 Legendary iPod & iPhone Creator Tony Fadell Shares His Design Secrets · Joe Lonsdale
May 20, 2022
Assertion Supported
Fadell built a secret Windows iPod project despite Steve Jobs' opposition
“And we actually had, I'd bring it up and Steve was like, over my dead body. And so I still created a skunkworks program in the back.”
Tony Fadell May 20, 2022 ▶ 14:49 Legendary iPod & iPhone Creator Tony Fadell Shares His Design Secrets · Joe Lonsdale
May 20, 2022 negative
Assertion Open · timeframe May 2022
Apple had under one percent US market share when Fadell joined
“Yeah, it was much smaller, and it had a market share of one percent or less, only in the US. It didn't have retail stores, it only had the Mac. There was really nothing else that Apple had at that time.”
Tony Fadell May 20, 2022 ▶ 13:15 Legendary iPod & iPhone Creator Tony Fadell Shares His Design Secrets · Joe Lonsdale
May 20, 2022 negative
Opinion
The first-generation Apple iPhone functioned terribly as an actual telephone
“The iPhone was the greatest thing except for a phone, right? Cause the phone really sucked. Cause we were learning, right? By figuring out what to do with how to make good cameras even.”
Tony Fadell May 20, 2022 ▶ 25:22 Legendary iPod & iPhone Creator Tony Fadell Shares His Design Secrets · Joe Lonsdale
May 20, 2022 positive
Opinion
General Magic attempted to build the iPhone 15 years too early
“I think what happened was in general magic was, you know, trying to make, you know, when you look back on it, the iPhone, 15 years too early.”
Tony Fadell May 20, 2022 ▶ 1:38 Legendary iPod & iPhone Creator Tony Fadell Shares His Design Secrets · Joe Lonsdale
May 20, 2022
Assertion Open · timeframe May 2022
Apple's iPod held 85 percent market share when phones added music
“We were at 85% market share at the time, and the market kept growing and growing and growing.”
Tony Fadell May 20, 2022 ▶ 21:29 Legendary iPod & iPhone Creator Tony Fadell Shares His Design Secrets · Joe Lonsdale
Mar 1, 2023 bullish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Chambers: Nile will transform networking like AWS transformed cloud
“Think about what Cisco did to all the networking companies. Think about what Amazon did in the cloud. Think what Apple did in terms of ease of use. That really is what now is going to do this industry if we do it right.”
John Chambers Mar 1, 2023 ▶ 21:25 John Chambers & Pankaj Patel Changed the World with Cisco. Now They're Doing It Again with Nile. · Joe Lonsdale
Nov 30, 2023 negative
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Lonsdale: Decoupling from China would push iPhone costs to thousands for years
“Like an iPhone would cost right now a few thousand dollars probably for the next three, four or five years, you know, each, if we didn't have China for now, and then eventually we could get cost down a lot more, but there's going to be like a huge disruption i…”
Joe Lonsdale Nov 30, 2023 ▶ 35:45 Ep 72: Illegal Chinese Bio Labs & Secret Police Inside America! Congressman Mike Gallagher · Joe Lonsdale
Aug 22, 2024 neutral
Assertion Supported
Only three of the 150 chips in an iPhone are advanced nodes
“Even if you look at your iPhone, there's about 150, 160 chips in that iPhone. Only three of them are advanced. Your processor, your memory, and the baseband from Qualcomm. That talks to the cell tower. Everything else, GPS, screen, power management, battery, a…”
Dmitri Alperovitch Aug 22, 2024 ▶ 48:59 He Predicted Putin's Invasion. Now He Predicts When China Will Invade Taiwan. · Joe Lonsdale
Dec 13, 2024 bearish
Assertion Supported
McCord: Apple paper shows minor perturbations drop AI reasoning scores by 65%
“But then you have Apple come out with a paper that shows that if you do minor perturbations, you drop the reasoning score on these systems by like, 65%.”
Brendan McCord Dec 13, 2024 ▶ 40:36 The Terrifying Truth AI Researchers Don’t Understand · Joe Lonsdale
Jul 28, 2025 neutral
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Hoffman: Apple is command-and-control with decisions made via executive memos
“Apple is very command and control. I don't know how much you know about their culture, but almost all the decisions are made by executives, by long memos, written their way, all the way to the top”
Reid Hoffman Jul 28, 2025 ▶ 5:45 Two Billionaires Debate: Should We Fear AI? · Joe Lonsdale
Jul 28, 2025
Insight
Hoffman: 'A players' at PayPal are not the same as Apple's
“Well, the A players at PayPal, who would be massively successful there, are not the same players as the A players at Apple, who can be massively, so you actually get these areas of coherence and cultural identity”
Reid Hoffman Jul 28, 2025 ▶ 5:45 Two Billionaires Debate: Should We Fear AI? · Joe Lonsdale
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