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Lonsdale: Regulators destroyed PayPal's early competitors in Europe
“When we were building PayPal, I was a kid there Eliot Spitzer kept trying to destroy the company with regulation, and he came very close to doing so, and in Europe, there actually were companies that, that were destroyed by the regulators, so it's funny, like,…”
Joe Lonsdale Oct 25, 2024 ▶ 28:47 Economist Vs. Billionaire: How The Myth Of Income Inequality Is Dividing America · Joe Lonsdale
Prediction Held up
Balaji Srinivasan: Bitcoin will be 10x PayPal and may be 10x gold
“I think Bitcoin will in the fullness of time, it's certainly 10 X, it will be 10 X PayPal. It may be 10 X gold.”
Balaji Sr i n i v a s a n Aug 11, 2021 ▶ 16:43 Balaji Srinivasan: Bitcoin, China, the "Woke" Mob, and the Future of the Internet · Joe Lonsdale
Assertion Supported
Lonsdale: PayPal's $2,500 misinformation fine red-pilled former CEO David Marcus
“PayPal, they threatened to take away 2500 dollars out of your account if you were caught inciting hatred or misinformation, which they were defining as they wanted. This actually red pilled the former PayPal CEO, David Marcus, who ended up speaking out on the …”
Joe Lonsdale Feb 14, 2025 ▶ 36:27 How AI Might Solve the Alien Mystery: Thought Leader's Paradox · Joe Lonsdale
What-if
Lonsdale: X.com and Confinity would have failed without their PayPal merger
“Elon Musk, you know, had X.com and Peter Thiel had Confinity and they merged to become PayPal and both of them were probably going to die otherwise. That was the only way they could survive was to merge.”
Joe Lonsdale Jan 14, 2022 ▶ 8:16 Rep. Ro Khanna & Joe Lonsdale Debate Income Inequality and Regulating Big Tech · Joe Lonsdale
Opinion
Lonsdale: Practical work at PayPal taught more engineering than Stanford CS
“I took computer science at Stanford and I actually, it was very theoretical, which I enjoyed as well. I think you should have some theory, but I actually learned a hell of a lot more from like working at PayPal and working around other kind of engineers and fo…”
Joe Lonsdale Oct 9, 2025 ▶ 35:48 This Idea is Destroying American Universities · Joe Lonsdale
Insight
Hoffman: 'A players' at PayPal are not the same as Apple's
“Well, the A players at PayPal, who would be massively successful there, are not the same players as the A players at Apple, who can be massively, so you actually get these areas of coherence and cultural identity”
Reid Hoffman Jul 28, 2025 ▶ 5:45 Two Billionaires Debate: Should We Fear AI? · Joe Lonsdale
Insight
Balaji Srinivasan: Web centralization was necessary before blockchains enabled decentralized global state
“Model view controller leads to centralization because technologically we couldn't represent global state. We couldn't decentralize the database. Okay. We had to have it a central hub like a Facebook or a Twitter or a PayPal which are great companies. Don't get…”
Balaji Srinivasan Aug 11, 2021 ▶ 10:45 Balaji Srinivasan: Bitcoin, China, the "Woke" Mob, and the Future of the Internet · Joe Lonsdale
Disclosure
Kimbal Musk discloses investing into PayPal following Zip2 sale
“Well, I invested in PayPal, and you know, I mean, I'm not at all worried about my outcome, but then amazingly, of course, the bubble burst six months later”
Kimbal Musk Jun 29, 2021 ▶ 8:14 Kimbal Musk: Tesla, SpaceX, The Kitchen, and Launching His First Company with Elon · Joe Lonsdale
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