Leonard Leo

Co-Chairman, The Federalist Society · 1 appearance on the record.

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Leo served as an outside judicial adviser to Donald Trump and orchestrated major campaigns to confirm conservative Supreme Court nominees. Through CRC Advisors and the Marble Freedom Trust, he directs a network of conservative nonprofits, advocacy organizations, and legal initiatives.

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Opinion

Leo: CFPB is probably the worst federal agency in US history

“The CFPB, I think is probably the worst federal agency we've ever seen. It violates every single principle of the separation of powers and checks and balances. And this one in particular, not only violates all of that, but it violates the spending power of Con…”

Leonard Leo Mar 8, 2024 ▶ 27:46 Ep 80: Leonard Leo Knows How to Win and How to Save Our Country · Joe Lonsdale

Opinion

Leo: The Warren Court Used the Law as a Political Tool

“The left began to use the law as a really serious driver for social change. And you know, the Warren court played right into that and began to use law as a political tool.”

Leonard Leo Mar 8, 2024 ▶ 3:06 Ep 80: Leonard Leo Knows How to Win and How to Save Our Country · Joe Lonsdale

Insight

Leo: Scalia Said Good Judges Need Smarts, Originalism, and Moral Courage

“Oh, I think it's really just three ingredients. One is smarts. And I learned this actually from Justice Scalia, who told me once, you always want a really smart judge, and the reason why you want a really smart judge is because they can't get snookered by the …”

Leonard Leo Mar 8, 2024 ▶ 8:22 Ep 80: Leonard Leo Knows How to Win and How to Save Our Country · Joe Lonsdale

Insight

Leo: No rules can constrain a rogue judge, only appointment vetting

“Look, personnel is policy. You just have to pick the right judges. There's no rule that you can put in place That's going to contain or constrain a rogue.”

Leonard Leo Mar 8, 2024 ▶ 9:59 Ep 80: Leonard Leo Knows How to Win and How to Save Our Country · Joe Lonsdale

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Leo: The Supreme Court is seriously considering overturning Chevron deference

“And so now we're, what we're faced with is a world where the Supreme Court's very seriously considering getting rid of this doctrine because it's been abused and it's violating the separation of powers.”

Leonard Leo Mar 8, 2024 ▶ 15:03 Ep 80: Leonard Leo Knows How to Win and How to Save Our Country · Joe Lonsdale

Opinion

Leo: Chevron deference enabled politically motivated judges to expand government

“Frankly, if you ask me, Joe, Chevron was also giving a lot of judges who are more politically motivated the ability to just kind of rubber stamp lawlessness by bureaucrats. And usher in an era of much bigger government.”

Leonard Leo Mar 8, 2024 ▶ 15:24 Ep 80: Leonard Leo Knows How to Win and How to Save Our Country · Joe Lonsdale

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Leo: Many constitutional cases will challenge administrative state in 3-5 years

“There are many more of those cases that are going to be brought over the next three to five years.”

Leonard Leo Mar 8, 2024 ▶ 21:17 Ep 80: Leonard Leo Knows How to Win and How to Save Our Country · Joe Lonsdale

Opinion

Leo: An 'Unholy Alliance' of FTC, Lawyers, and AGs Targets Innovators

“There's this unholy alliance between the FTC enforcement arm and plaintiff's lawyers and leftist state attorneys general. You know, they all feed off of each other and they create this iron triangle of authority and risk, right? Because if you're an innovator,…”

Leonard Leo Mar 8, 2024 ▶ 25:34 Ep 80: Leonard Leo Knows How to Win and How to Save Our Country · Joe Lonsdale

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Leo: Beating Back Chevron Doctrine Will Increasingly Restrain the FTC

“I think if we continue to be successful with beating back the Chevron doctrine, And if we continue to be successful in enforcing rules that require Congress to be clearer about what standards agencies need to operate under, yes, I think you can click the wings…”

Leonard Leo Mar 8, 2024 ▶ 26:56 Ep 80: Leonard Leo Knows How to Win and How to Save Our Country · Joe Lonsdale

Disclosure

Leonard Leo manages Marble Freedom Trust to drive legal and social change

“I now manage a trust called Marble Freedom Trust, so we're trying to really institute a lot of legal and social change through philanthropy.”

Leonard Leo Mar 8, 2024 ▶ 1:59 Ep 80: Leonard Leo Knows How to Win and How to Save Our Country · Joe Lonsdale

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Leo: Entertainment Insiders Seek to Form Alternative Pro-Free-Market Media Ventures

“And I'll tell you, Joe, there are a lot of people in the entertainment world who really understand limited government and free society. And they're not happy with the entertainment world, and they're looking for opportunities to band together and to be a part …”

Leonard Leo Mar 8, 2024 ▶ 35:04 Ep 80: Leonard Leo Knows How to Win and How to Save Our Country · Joe Lonsdale

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Lonsdale: Leonard Leo Put Judges in Place to Fight Regulatory State

“He's put the judges in place to go to war against the broken parts of our regulatory state to fix our government.”

Joe Lonsdale Mar 8, 2024 ▶ 1:13 Ep 80: Leonard Leo Knows How to Win and How to Save Our Country · Joe Lonsdale

Appearances (1)

Episode	Date	Speaking time
Ep 80: Leonard Leo Knows How to Win and How to Save Our Country · Joe Lonsdale	Mar 8, 2024	22m

Leonard Leo

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