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Mack hung up on Geithner, Bernanke, and Paulson over $2 buyout demand
“I go over and pick up the phone, and he said, I'm on here with Ben Bernanke and Hank Paulson. You know, we want you to sell your firm. And I said, well, you know, out of respect for you, I called Jamie Dimon, and he'd only pay me two dollars a share. And Guy A…”
John Mack Feb 15, 2023 ▶ 21:40 How John Mack Saved Morgan Stanley & Transformed Wall Street · Joe Lonsdale
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Jamie Dimon rejected Tim Geithner's demand to buy Morgan Stanley for $2
“Tim Geithner, who ran the New York Fed, called me and said, look I can't have Morgan Stanley go out of business. I want you to call Jamie Dimon and he will buy your company. No, we're desperate. I called Jamie and he said, John, I don't want your company. He s…”
John Mack Feb 15, 2023 ▶ 20:34 How John Mack Saved Morgan Stanley & Transformed Wall Street · Joe Lonsdale
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Hedge funds borrowed Morgan Stanley's own repo money to short its stock
“A number of the hedge funds would come in and borrow money from us through, through a repo account. And then they would take that money and use it to short our stock. And it wasn't just us. They did it to Lehman. They did it to us.”
John Mack Feb 15, 2023 ▶ 18:55 How John Mack Saved Morgan Stanley & Transformed Wall Street · Joe Lonsdale
Assertion Supported
Japanese partners Mack trained years earlier wrote the check saving Morgan Stanley
“And, you know, they're the ones that wrote the big check that got us out of the bind.”
John Mack Feb 15, 2023 ▶ 16:49 How John Mack Saved Morgan Stanley & Transformed Wall Street · Joe Lonsdale
Disclosure
Mack: Morgan Stanley trained rising Japanese partners in New York annually
“We used to bring over one or two of their up and growing partners to work with Morgan Stanley in New York for 12 months.”
John Mack Feb 15, 2023 ▶ 16:20 How John Mack Saved Morgan Stanley & Transformed Wall Street · Joe Lonsdale
Disclosure
Mack launched golf clinics for female executives to combat male networking advantages
“One of the things we started doing as I got more and more comfortable in the job, it was clear that on a Friday afternoon at two o'clock, a lot of the men would disappear to go play golf from May to September. And all of, most of the women were still there wor…”
John Mack Feb 15, 2023 ▶ 10:24 How John Mack Saved Morgan Stanley & Transformed Wall Street · Joe Lonsdale
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Mack: Mary Meeker pushed Morgan Stanley to expand heavily into tech
“Yeah, well thank, you know, you got to get a lot of credit to Mary Meeker, because when she was the analyst way back then, she really pushed the firm to get a lot more involved in tech, and we did, thank God.”
John Mack Feb 15, 2023 ▶ 23:09 How John Mack Saved Morgan Stanley & Transformed Wall Street · Joe Lonsdale
Assertion Partly supported
Lonsdale: Morgan Stanley spends $5B to $6B annually on technology
“Morgan Stanley spends, I think, five, six billion dollars on technology per year, which has been huge for a lot of our companies.”
Joe Lonsdale Feb 15, 2023 ▶ 22:28 How John Mack Saved Morgan Stanley & Transformed Wall Street · Joe Lonsdale
Assertion Not publicly verifiable
Early Morgan Stanley partners were almost exclusively Princeton, Yale, or Harvard alumni
“And it was a private partnership. I would say, of the 35 partners, 20 of them probably went to Princeton. And the rest of them probably went to Yale or Harvard.”
John Mack Feb 15, 2023 ▶ 9:49 How John Mack Saved Morgan Stanley & Transformed Wall Street · Joe Lonsdale
Assertion Partly supported
Mack: Early Morgan Stanley had 400 to 500 people as a partnership
“We were back then, we were a small private, ah, partnerships. It wasn't a huge firm of a thousand people. It was probably four or 500 people.”
John Mack Feb 15, 2023 ▶ 32:40 How John Mack Saved Morgan Stanley & Transformed Wall Street · Joe Lonsdale
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