Dr. Mark Esper
Partner, Red Cell Partners · 1 appearance on the record.
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Dr. Mark Esper served as the 27th U.S. Secretary of Defense and 23rd Secretary of the Army, and authored the memoir A Sacred Oath. He currently advises defense technology companies through Red Cell Partners and serves on multiple boards.
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Esper: European allies are often reluctant to repatriate captured terrorist prisoners
“In other cases where we capture prisoners and we hold them, we try and press other countries, like our European partners, to take them back and hold them in more secure facilities. And there's often a reluctance to do so.”
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Everything Dr. Mark Esper said on American Optimist that made the record, most notable first. Filter by type, assessment or year in the ledger →
Esper: Delisting Iran's Revolutionary Guard as Terrorists Is a Mistake
“Yeah, again, I think that's a mistake as well. I would not take them off because they are sponsoring terrorism throughout the region.”
Esper: Putin failed strategically by unifying NATO and driving Ukraine westward
“I said before the invasion actually began that Putin had already lost. He lost because he had done three things before invading that he shouldn't have wanted to do in the first place. That is, number one, unifying NATO. Number two, have more NATO troops move t…”
Esper: Putin Cannot Accept Defeat and Will Continue Shelling Ukrainian Cities
“Can Putin walk away with a loss? I don't think so. He's gonna have to find a face saving way out. I think folks are gonna try and help him do that. At this point, I think his tactics will continue to be the indiscriminate shelling of Ukrainian cities.”
Esper: US Navy is behind on autonomous drone technology
“Yeah, you know, I think the Navy's behind.
we've been flying drones in the air now since the nineties.
we should be having surface drones, subsurface drones now.
There's, you know some conflict within the Navy about that, some moving too fast, too slow peopl…”
Esper: Washington's political dysfunction is a bigger challenge than Russia or China
“I do think the biggest challenge we face today is not Russia or China. It's our political dysfunction in Washington, D.C.”
Esper: The Russian military is weaker than Western assessments anticipated
“Russia is not as good as we thought they were. We've seen failures in everything from their generalship to the lack of an NCO corps and to the performance of their soldiers. And of course, that extends into their equipment their shortages when it comes to supp…”
Esper: Ukrainian military effectiveness exceeds expectations due to Western support
“The second thing we learned is that the Ukrainians have a much better military than we expect. And I think a lot of that is due to the arms and training that we provided them over the last few years.”
Esper: Ukraine's defense offers a vital blueprint for Taiwan against China
“The third thing though, and I said this again publicly, it was important to see the Taiwan, for the Taiwanese to see what an inspired, well-led defense, a territorial defense of their country can do, in this case, Ukraine, because that will be very important i…”
Esper: U.S. should not have fully withdrawn from Afghanistan without Taliban compliance
“That's why I was opposed to a complete withdrawal of our force from Afghanistan up until the, until the Taliban met their end of the political agreement, and if they weren't, then we should have stayed and maintained a presence and supported the Afghan army.”
Esper: European allies are often reluctant to repatriate captured terrorist prisoners
“In other cases where we capture prisoners and we hold them, we try and press other countries, like our European partners, to take them back and hold them in more secure facilities. And there's often a reluctance to do so.”
Esper: 2015 Obama Iran Nuclear Deal Was Not a Good Deal
“Well, the original Obama deal was not a good deal. It wasn't long enough. It didn't have enough accountability. We gave away too much upfront, et cetera.”
Esper: Biden Administration's Iran Deal Will Be Worse Than the Original
“We gotta wait and see what the Biden team comes up with, and I'm afraid what you're saying is correct, that they didn't lengthen and strengthen it as they promised to be, and it'll be it'll be a worse deal.”
Esper: US needs a 500+ ship fleet with 100+ unmanned vessels
“What I argued for, what I put forward was a 500 plus fleet force with well over 100 optionally manned systems.
That's where we need to be.
That's gonna get us the capacity to control and monitor the seas, and then the capability as well to fight in the future.”
Esper: Corruption and Sycophancy Undermined Putin's Military Modernization
“I think that is a prevailing theory that despite whatever Putin was doing when it comes to modernizing his forces, there was a lot of corruption going on. A lot of people were telling him what he wanted to hear. And at the end of the day, you can see the perfo…”
Esper: Russian Military Has Reverted to Soviet-Era Tactics in Ukraine
“Well, I did think we thought we would see a difference, but it appears to be not unlike what we saw during Soviet times. So the heavy use of massed forces, a reliance on artillery if you will, barrage tactics to take down cities. But we thought that they would…”
Esper: Ukraine combines Turkish drones and Javelins for small unit tactics
“We've actually seen the Ukrainians more, use more of the drones primarily Turkish bought, purchased drones. So again, they're using it to great effect. That combined with the use of anti-armor weapons, the javelins and the N-laws, anti-aircraft weapons like th…”
Esper: Russia Failed to Scale Advanced Defense Technology Production
“Russia does have very capable engineers and technicians, but again, we just don't see that they've advanced the technology or expanded enough through production to really feel the force of that level of modernization.”
Esper: Only about six NATO allies met 2% defense goal in 2017
“By time I had assumed office in 2017 as Secretary of the Army, you'd see that maybe a half a dozen out of the 29 at that time NATO allies were meeting their two percent goal, and it was a goal set under the Obama administration, which I thought was a worthy th…”
Esper: As Defense Secretary, he sought to move US forces east
“What I was trying to do as secretary of defense was actually push more forces East up to toward the Russian border in the frontline states as we call them.”
Esper: Pentagon Innovation Struggles Are Driven by Culture, Not Tools
“And first and foremost, I think it's more, far more about the culture than it is about the tools available to DoD.”
Esper: Excessive Checklists and Requirements In Defense Acquisition Hurt Innovation
“They've been conditioned over years to follow, for example, long checklists of things they must do. They like to build long lists of requirements that, that tell an innovator everything he or she must do to make it To make the technology the way it is. And I t…”
Esper: Pentagon Counter-Drone RFP Mandated Legacy Vacuum Tube Technology
“And not, not long ago, if memory serves me right you know, a requirement came out from somebody within DOD and it said with a drone counter drone technology, it had to be vacuum tube technology.”
Esper: Defense Procurement Should Specify Desired Outcomes, Not Technology Types
“We shouldn't tell them what type of technology. We should just say, what's the outcome we want? We want the ability to shoot down certain types of drones, fixed wing, rotary wing at certain distances, and that's it. Whether it's vacuum tube, Or digital technol…”
Esper: Pentagon innovation requires multi-million dollar bets and accepting frequent failure
“It can't be in the hundreds of thousands of dollars. It needs to be in the millions, at least, because that's what you need to get going. And also be willing, again, to have a 20, 30, 40% success rate. It's not going to be a hundred percent. If it's a hundred …”
Appearances (1)
| Episode | Date | Speaking time |
|---|---|---|
| Dr. Mark Esper: Lessons from Russia's Invasion of Ukraine · Joe Lonsdale | Mar 31, 2022 | 20m |