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20VC Opinion
Greze: Apple lacks cloud DNA and does not know how to do cloud
“One, they're not a cloud company. They're just not, it's just not their DNA. They don't know how to do cloud.”
Jean-Denis Greze Sep 7, 2026 ▶ 39:39 Town vs Instinct vs GrokBot | Why the AI Assistant Market Is Not a Bubble
a16z Prediction Not checkable as stated
The AI Market Will Be Non-Zero-Sum Across Labs, Open Source, and Apps
“Like, this is not an or thing. It's an and thing, right? Like, this is an and thing. Frontier's gonna work really well. Like, N minus one models are gonna work really well. Open source is gonna work really well. There's gonna be a bunch of application companie…”
David George Aug 31, 2026 ▶ 8:27 Why AI Demand Is Outrunning Compute Supply
SOURCERY Assertion Not checkable as stated
Fox: AssemblyAI used Claude to rebuild and migrate its entire website
“Like, you know, the most recent example is we had Cloud rebuild our whole website off of Webflow and just deployed on Vercel.”
Dylan Fox Jul 31, 2026 ▶ 16:43 AssemblyAI Now Handles 4x YouTube's Daily Volume
ALL-IN Insight
McMaster: Boston Dynamics splits robot compute between onboard physical control and cloud reasoning
“We think about two brains, right? It's my simplified version of telling the stories. There's two brains. There's the brain that controls the physicality of the robot, which is what Boston Dynamics is known for. You know, the dynamic movement, reliability, the …”
Amanda McMaster Jul 29, 2026 ▶ 41:47 The $1/Hour Robot Is Coming: Four Industry Leaders Explain What’s Next
Pomel: Established companies initially dismissed Amazon's cloud as an unusable toy
“The premise for the company, which was let's bring Dev and Ops together into one platform was actually completely central to the explosion of the cloud. And we also completely underestimated the explosion of the cloud with, oh, that's interesting. There's this…”
Olivier Pomel Jul 24, 2026 ▶ 5:47 How Two French Engineers In New York Built The Company That Monitors The Entire Cloud · Y Combinator
SOURCERY Assertion Not checkable as stated
Liang: Infrastructure repatriation to on-premises is actively occurring across enterprises
“Look, repatriation of infrastructure into on-prem is definitely happening, right? You saw this big shift. Everybody's got a cloud called cloud, you know, everything's in the cloud, and 20 years later, you still have companies just starting the migration to the…”
Rodrigo Liang Jul 17, 2026 ▶ 44:48 Inference 101: SambaNova CEO Rodrigo Liang · Sourcery with Molly O'Shea
BIG TECHNOLOGY Prediction Not checkable as stated
Schmidhuber: AI Will Soon Run Locally Without Internet or Cloud
“Soon AI will not be in the cloud, you know. No, it will be local, on your local computer, a small little computer, it will be as powerful as what's now in the cloud, but you won't have to connect it to the internet”
Jürgen Schmidhuber Jul 15, 2026 ▶ 24:02 AI Pioneer Jürgen Schmidhuber: AI Already Feels Pain, Loves, and Is Self-Aware
INVEST LIKE THE BEST Prediction Not checkable as stated
Sacerdote: AI market will reach $3T to $5T
“You know, we just said cloud, you know, maybe cloud's eight hundred billion. This might be, you know, we now think three to five, but there's higher risk, higher reward.”
Alex Sacerdote Jun 9, 2026 ▶ 36:50 Why the AI Boom Is Just Getting Started · Invest Like The Best
SOURCERY Insight
Feig: Enterprise trust in AI models is rising despite cloud multi-tenancy reservations
“Over the past year, You've seen people use the models, trust them more, and now everyone's backing away from that language, but there's still a lot of reservations now around using anything AI in the cloud, and so still demands for, no, we want this running in…”
Gil Feig Jun 1, 2026 ▶ 14:03 "We Don't Trust Agents" - What This CTO Knows That You Don't · Sourcery with Molly O'Shea
LATENT SPACE Assertion Not checkable as stated
Cooper: Three-month payback buying bare-metal versus renting cloud
“Our payback period when we go to metal if we rent it in the cloud, our payback period is about three months.”
Jake Cooper May 20, 2026 ▶ 17:02 The Agent-Native Cloud: 3M Users, 100K Signups/Wk, Data Centers, & Death PRs — Jake Cooper, Railway
Y COMBINATOR Disclosure
Vuong: PI's complex robot evaluations actually run on remote cloud models
“Almost all of the robot evaluation that we run at Pi today, including the really Complicated demo that we have shown making coffee, folding laundry, mobile robots navigating around. The model actually hosted in the cloud.”
Quan Vuong Apr 16, 2026 ▶ 23:52 The GPT Moment for Robotics Is Here · Y Combinator
MY FIRST MILLION Assertion Not checkable as stated
1,300 cloud cyber platforms launched in five years, while SMBs got zero
“We just happened to ask the question, how many cybersecurity platforms have been created for the cloud in the last five years? And the answer is like, 1300. And then we said, how many have been created for the SMB in the last five years? And the answer was zer…”
Jon McNeill Apr 9, 2026 ▶ 25:26 Ex-Tesla President reveals EVERYTHING Elon does to win
CATALYST Insight
McAvoy: Grid response requires site-level inferencing for sub-50ms latency
“The goal right now, I think for a lot of people, it's like sub-fifty millisecond response, and so you want to reduce latency everywhere, so you start doing your inferencing and decision making, like, locally, very locally, on the ground, like, at the site leve…”
Sean McAvoy Mar 30, 2026 ▶ 4:45 Battery booms and the rise of flexibility [partner content]
LATENT SPACE Assertion Supported
Rieseberg: Claude's VM takes less than 10 gigabytes on macOS disk
“A lot of people write me like, hey, how, how come Cloud is taking up 10 gigabytes? I could say on that point, it's not actually taking up 10 gigabytes. It's just like a way that Mac OS displays bytes is like wrong, but the way we actually write it to disk is b…”
Felix Rieseberg Mar 17, 2026 ▶ 1:03:27 Anthropic’s Felix Rieseberg on AI Coworkers, Local-First Agents, and the Future of Knowledge Work
CHEEKY PINT Assertion Contradicted
Langley: Florida and Maryland barred police cloud data until 2022 and 2023
“The cloud was only recently made legal in Florida as recently as twenty-twenty-two. So if you were a law enforcement agency, you could not host your data in the cloud until 2022. Maryland was 2023.”
Garrett Langley Mar 5, 2026 ▶ 11:47 Garrett Langley of Flock Safety on building technology to solve crime
ANOTHER PODCAST Prediction Not checkable as stated
Evans: AI model infrastructure likely settles into 3 to 6 company oligopoly
“So it seems quite likely that all of that will settle out at some point with some kind of oligopoly, where like the laws of gravity and the laws of financial gravity kick in, and while this is the amount of money that the revenue that you can get, and this is …”
Benedict Evans Feb 28, 2026 ▶ 3:47 The end of the network effect
ANOTHER PODCAST Assertion Not checkable as stated
Evans: Cloud accounts for only a third of enterprise workflows
“It's still only sort of a third of enterprise workflows. So it takes a long time to re-platform.”
Benedict Evans Feb 23, 2026 ▶ 10:46 AI and SaaS
Benedict Evans: SaaS that merely wraps SQL with custom branding is doomed
“If you've got a piece of software, all you're really doing is wrapping up SQL and putting a car logo on it instead of a bike logo on it so that it's car software instead of bike software, then yeah, you're screwed. That's what happened with cloud too.”
Benedict Evans Feb 23, 2026 ▶ 31:10 AI and SaaS
TBPN Insight
Coogan: AI is a disruptive, not sustaining, innovation for SaaS
“This is a disruptive innovation, this is not a sustaining innovation like mobile or cloud. The AI version of, you know, X, Y, or Z SaaS company will not be like the mobile version of that SaaS company.”
John Coogan Feb 19, 2026 ▶ 4:02 The SaaSpocalypse Is Over
DAVID SENRA Assertion Supported
Fried: Moving 37signals Off the Cloud Will Save Roughly $10 Million
“David wrote this great article about like getting off the cloud. It's going to save us something like ten million bucks and whatever it is.”
Jason Fried Feb 15, 2026 ▶ 1:30:38 Jason Fried: Your Only Competition Is Your Costs
SOURCERY Assertion Partly supported
Franceschi: Capital One is the only massive-scale bank running entirely on cloud
“It's the only bank, if you look at a massive scale, that doesn't run on mainframes. It's actually on cloud.”
Pedro Franceschi Jan 30, 2026 ▶ 3:41 How Brex signed a $5.15B Deal in ~40 Days · Sourcery with Molly O'Shea
CAPITAL ALLOCATORS Assertion Not checkable as stated
Sacerdote: AI infrastructure is only 14% penetrated on the S-curve
“We're only about 14% penetrated on the AIS curve for infrastructure. Within the cloud, it's only three or four percent.”
Alex Sacerdote Dec 22, 2025 ▶ 28:12 Top 5 of 2025: #4: Alex Sacerdote
BIG TECHNOLOGY Assertion Not checkable as stated
Cloud GPUs lack elasticity and availability remains a persistent challenge
“GPUs, as you know, are still not elastic. In fact, they're often, you know, availability itself is, can be a challenge.”
Prem Natarajan Dec 15, 2025 ▶ 5:52 Capital One's Prem Natarajan: Why We're Building Our AI From The Ground Up
CAPITAL ALLOCATORS Prediction Open · timeframe Dec 2030
Wolfe: 50% of AI Inference Will Run Locally On-Device
“I'm of the belief that 50% of your inference and your queries will be on device. They will not be on device going to the cloud. They will be on device. Locally hosted on models that are either etched into the silicon or using flash memory.”
Josh Wolfe Dec 8, 2025 ▶ 38:41 Josh Wolfe & Brett McGurk – Venture, Geopolitics, and the Next Frontier (EP.476)
George: AI Technological Advancements Will Completely Dwarf SaaS And Cloud
“The advancements of SAS and cloud are Tiny compared to the advancements of what AI is going to do”
David George Dec 2, 2025 ▶ 6:55 How a16z Growth Invests · Invest Like The Best
BG2 Insight
Nadella: AI gives software significantly higher marginal costs, forcing business model adjustments
“Overall, it is going to be true that there is a real marginal cost to software this time around. It was there in the cloud era too. When we were doing, you know, CD-ROMs, there wasn't much of a marginal cost. You know, with the cloud, there was. And this time …”
Satya Nadella Oct 31, 2025 ▶ 59:54 All things AI w @altcap @sama & @satyanadella. A Halloween Special. 🎃🔥BG2 w/ Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
a16z Insight
Levie: AI transforms company creation in ways cloud computing never did
“By 2005, other than the fact that our resources were in the cloud versus, you know, you had to go to a data center. In our case, we actually still went to the data center. Like, not that much about the company building process was different. Today, in 25, ever…”
Aaron Levie Sep 24, 2025 ▶ 22:27 Software Finally Eats Services - Aaron Levie
a16z Prediction Not checkable as stated
Levie: AI market will follow SaaS pattern with $100B new disruptors
“I think it's going to look like what we saw in something like SAS or cloud, which is the incumbents get bigger, but then there's all of these new categories that we would not have been able to predict. And then there's lots of 10 and 20 and fifty and one hundr…”
Aaron Levie Sep 24, 2025 ▶ 56:25 Software Finally Eats Services - Aaron Levie
20VC Assertion Not checkable as stated
Taneja: AI is first technology wave where every global CEO is adopting
“For the first time, every CEO in every industry in every country is thinking about what do I do with this technology? Never happened before. Cloud wasn't like that. Certainly PCs weren't like that. Internet wasn't like that.”
Hemant Taneja Sep 22, 2025 ▶ 54:11 General Catalyst CEO, Hemant Taneja: Lessons Scaling GC to $40BN in AUM · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
ALL-IN Assertion Partly supported
Friedman: Nasdaq has migrated its markets to the cloud
“We've moved our markets to cloud.”
Adena Friedman Sep 9, 2025 ▶ 12:45 Nasdaq CEO Reveals the Next Era Of The Stock Market - Adena Friedman | All-In Summit
20VC Prediction Not checkable as stated
Lemkin: AI Scale Prevents Venture Capital From Returning to Old Model
“We're not going back. The AI is so much bigger than cloud and so different. And unless the LP is cut off the valve it's, We're not going back to the old venture.”
Jason Lemkin Aug 14, 2025 ▶ 1:18:46 Sam Altman's Masterplan or a Gift to Anthropic? Palantir & Shopify Crush Earnings · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
20VC Prediction Held up
Casado: The AI coding model market will become an oligopoly
“Oligopoly. This is how the cloud, well, this is how the cloud played. I think probably the best analog we have is the cloud, right?”
Martin Casado Jul 28, 2025 ▶ 6:43 a16z GP, Martin Casado: Anthropic vs OpenAI & Why Open Source is a National Security Risk with China · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
a16z Prediction Not checkable as stated
Levie: Enterprise AI adoption will outpace the cloud computing transition
“AI is going to take over the enterprise. We know this is going to happen, and it needs to happen to us faster than it happens to our competitors, which is a totally different dynamic than we saw with cloud.”
Aaron Levie Jul 14, 2025 ▶ 0:00 Aaron Levie on AI's Enterprise Adoption
NO PRIORS Opinion
Conrad: AI will probably be a centralizing force in enterprise software
“Some people would argue like, well, AI is sort of like a similar kind of shift from like on-prem to cloud. And I probably don't agree. I think it's actually probably more centralizing as a technology”
Parker Conrad Jul 10, 2025 ▶ 12:44 No Priors Ep. 122 | With Rippling Co-Founder & CEO Parker Conrad
Rubin: Security policy has shifted from IP addresses to human-readable tags
“And the world was moving away from that, not from those addresses, but from writing your policy and describing how you wanted your environment to live and how you wanted to protect it. People were moving into the same thing that they do in cloud, which is you …”
Andrew Rubin Jul 3, 2025 ▶ 14:07 1st-time founder raises $140M with $0 revenue—grows to 800 employees & profitable. | Andrew Rubin... · PMF Show
Hieatt: Agentic AI Shifts Will Be Bigger Than Cloud Computing
“I think there's a big thing happening here. I really do. I think the agentic notion is, is a huge move forward, you know, as big or bigger than, say, cloud.”
Edward Hieatt Jun 13, 2025 ▶ 38:51 Unlocking Legacy Systems: Modernizing Mainframes via AI with Mechanical Orchard
a16z Assertion Supported
Horowitz: Databricks refused on-premise customer demands to stay cloud-only
“And actually in so in entrepreneurial world, like we saw this with Databricks, where like they had a very clear vision of what they were going to be. And the audience wanted it on premise and they refused to do it because it was so contrary to their vision. Bu…”
Ben Horowitz May 28, 2025 ▶ 1:13:42 Rick Rubin: Vibe Coding is the Punk Rock of Software
Chennapragada: AI is the most compressed tech cycle in history
“This is the most compressed tech cycle that we've ever experienced. Right. It's all in the order of weeks and months versus years and decades. If you think about like mobile and cloud and internet, and there's just like so much happening the intelligence overh…”
Aparna Chennapragada May 18, 2025 ▶ 9:17 Microsoft CPO: If you aren’t prototyping with AI you’re doing it wrong | Aparna Chennapragada
20VC Insight
Moore: Enterprise AI adoption is fundamentally faster than prior cloud cycles
“So I think this is fundamentally different. And if you compare it to cloud, for example, adoption was fairly slow in the beginning, right? Kind of gradually, then suddenly. Here, I think the difference is that there's this broad-based consensus that Failure to…”
Bucky Moore May 5, 2025 ▶ 57:40 Bucky Moore @ Lightspeed Venture Partners: Why You Cannot Do VC If You Do Not Do Pre-Seed · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
ALL-IN Prediction Not checkable as stated
Chamath: Cloud providers will face KYC regulatory blowback within two quarters
“And that's going to need to get sorted out in the next couple of quarters, because if Western governments basically say to the clouds, hey, you need to KYC your customers so that it's not somebody distilling the best of our models into a place we don't agree w…”
Chamath Palihapitiya Apr 26, 2025 ▶ 56:54 Trump Rally or Bessent Put? Elon Back at Tesla, Google's Gemini Problem, China's Thorium Discovery
BIG TECHNOLOGY Prediction Held up
Kurian: Cloud adoption will definitely surpass 50% of IT workloads
“We definitely see it getting north of 50%.”
Thomas Kurian Apr 9, 2025 ▶ 52:34 Google Cloud CEO Thomas Kurian on AI Competition, Agents, And Tariffs
20VC Assertion Supported
Novo Nordisk cut clinical trial reports from 15 weeks to 20 minutes
“On Novo Nordisk used to take, I think it was something like 15 weeks to do their clinical trial reports, and now they use cloud and get it done in 20 minutes, and like, that's a step change.”
Mike Krieger Mar 3, 2025 ▶ 1:01:19 Mike Krieger, Instagram CoFounder & Anthropic CPO: Where Will Value Be Created in an AI World?|E1265 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
LATENT SPACE Assertion Supported
Soldani: Content owners blanket block crawling due to closed AI models
“What they found is, as a reaction to, like, the close like, of the existence of closed models, like OpenAI or Cloud GPT or Cloud a lot of content owners have blanket blocked any type of crawling to their website.”
Luca Soldani Dec 23, 2024 ▶ 18:34 Best of 2024: Open Models [LS LIVE! at NeurIPS 2024]
ANOTHER PODCAST Prediction Not checkable as stated
Evans: AI will become invisible background infrastructure within five years
“It just, like, it just disappears. You don't think about it anymore. You know, when's the last time you did autocorrect? You know, you don't, you just, it just happens. When's the last time you used the cloud? Like it just happens. And so that's sort of the ba…”
Benedict Evans Dec 8, 2024 ▶ 41:34 Ai eats the world
BIG TECHNOLOGY Prediction Not checkable as stated
Garman: Enterprise cloud adoption will flip from 20% today to over 80%
“But I do think, and I actually think that at a minimum I think that, that percentage could flip, and it could be eighty-twenty versus 28 where it is today, or even less.”
Matt Garman Dec 5, 2024 ▶ 39:17 AWS CEO Matt Garman on Amazon's Big AI Chips Bet, Working With OpenAI, and Nuclear Energy
Rydhan: Every company should deploy AI workflows like early cloud computing
“And I think everyone should be deploying them. Every company should have them. It is a superpower. It's like, I can't, you know, it's like a feeling of almost like cloud, like, oh, I don't need a whole data center team now.”
Furqan Rydhan Nov 26, 2024 ▶ 10:39 $100B Founder Breaks Down The Biggest AI Business Opportunities For 2025
20VC Assertion Contradicted
Fougere: In early 2017, enterprises had almost no cloud production applications
“And so the enterprise, there were really, in early 2017, this might be surprising to some people, is there really weren't any production applications in the cloud for the enterprise.”
Dan Fougere Nov 22, 2024 ▶ 9:45 Dan Fougere, CRO @Datadog: Why Discounting is Dangerous and Contract Sizes are Misleading | E1229 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
LENNY'S PODCAST Assertion Supported
Despite perception, only 15% to 20% of IT infrastructure is cloud-hosted
“We feel like everything is in the cloud, but in reality, by estimation, only like 20%, 15 to 20% of the infra today is in cloud.”
Raaz Herzberg Nov 17, 2024 ▶ 1:03:25 Building Wiz: the fastest-growing startup in history | Raaz Herzberg (CMO and VP Product Strategy)
Friedman: AI is the fastest-improving technology in human history
“It's the fastest any tech has ever improved. I think. Yeah. Certainly faster than processors, certainly faster than the cloud.”
Jared Friedman Nov 1, 2024 ▶ 28:42 The 10 Trillion Parameter AI Model With 300 IQ · Y Combinator
BIG TECHNOLOGY Disclosure
Gomez: Cohere Targets On-Premises Deployments for Regulated Industries
“So Cohere has had a long time focus on, on-prem as well, because for a lot of regulated industries, like finance and healthcare, a lot of that data doesn't actually go on the cloud.”
Aidan Gomez Oct 30, 2024 ▶ 46:36 The Next Gen AI Models: Reliable, Consistent, Trustworthy — With Cohere CEO Aidan Gomez
NEON SHOW Assertion Partly supported
Nadhani: Global Cloud Adoption Is Still Under 35%
“I don't think we are probably beyond 30, 35% adoption of even cloud in the world.”
Pallav Nadhani Aug 31, 2024 ▶ 56:31 Indian SaaS, AI Wave, IPO & Best Country For Co. Registration | 2024 Insights With SaaS Founder
LATENT SPACE Assertion Supported
Scialom: Meta had to reinvent scaling RLHF without published frontier research
“You have just the basics, but then when it comes to, like, ChatGPT or GPT Instruct or Cloud, No one published the details there. And so we had to reinvent the wheel there in a very short amount of time.”
Thomas Scialom Jul 23, 2024 ▶ 7:53 Training Llama 2, 3 & 4: The Path to Open Source AGI — with Thomas Scialom of Meta AI
ACQUIRED Prediction Not checkable as stated
Gilbert: Cloud computing represents a 30- to 40-year secular growth wave
“It's probably a 3040 year wave that they get to keep riding.”
Ben Gilbert Jul 22, 2024 ▶ 3:52:00 Microsoft Volume II: The Complete History and Strategy of the Ballmer Years (Audio) · Acquired
CATALYST Assertion Supported
Belady: Cloud applications are 93% to 95% more efficient than on-premise
“We did a study that I sponsored back in, I'd say maybe about 10 years ago or so, looking at the efficiency of the cloud versus on-prem and it was like 95% or 93% more, more efficient to run your applications in the cloud because you don't have as many wasted a…”
Christian Belady Jul 18, 2024 ▶ 14:30 Can chip efficiency slow AI's energy demand?
CATALYST Insight
Belady: AI power demand is purely additive, unlike cloud efficiency migrations
“So now what you see is AI coming along and that's like a completely new application and it's a massive application. So now that's just stacking on top of this other transition of, as things move from enterprise Into the cloud. And now your stack on top of that…”
Christian Belady Jul 18, 2024 ▶ 15:03 Can chip efficiency slow AI's energy demand?
TOP FOUNDERS Assertion Not checkable as stated
Ahrefs saved $400M over three years by avoiding cloud hosting
“We saved like four hundred million in three years by not going to the cloud. We built our own data centers. It's a little painful. We had some down times. We got some flack for it, but like it was the right decision in the end. We scale so much data. This numb…”
Patrick Stox Jul 11, 2024 ▶ 6:04 aHref's Does $1m in Revenue Per Employee, Bootstrapped, Using these 5 Content Strategies you should copy
LATENT SPACE Disclosure
Frankle: Databricks runs across six or seven different cloud providers
“Think we're running on like six or seven different clouds right now.”
Jonathan Frankle Jun 25, 2024 ▶ 36:15 State of the Art: Training 70B LLMs on 10,000 H100 clusters
SAASTR Prediction Not checkable as stated
Bendov: Autonomous AI Will Dwarf Cloud by Capturing Payroll Budgets
“The third wave is autonomous application with AI, that's gonna dwarf everything, that it's gonna be like a much bigger than cloud, because it touches into payroll, right? It comes from a different budget. We're not quite there right, but think about if you go …”
Amit Bendov Jun 13, 2024 ▶ 15:07 The Future of AI in Sales with Gong’s CEO and Co-Founder Amit Bendov
CATALYST Insight
Janus: Cloud Apps Cannot Seamlessly Move Regions During Data Center Outages
“I think people have this sense of the cloud as really being this sort of ethereal thing, and applications can just move around, and if one data center goes down, then, well, you can just move everything to another data center. That's not really how it works. W…”
Brian Janous Jun 13, 2024 ▶ 17:26 Under the hood of data center power demand
Moore: APIs Drove Software Buyers From Suites to Interoperable Stacks
“The emergence of, ah, not just the cloud, but also the API economy, the extreme ease with which you can build interoperable products, was basically taking the world into this massive unbundling cycle, where you used to buy this one kind of monolithic solution …”
Bob Moore May 30, 2024 ▶ 7:15 How to Sell your Company for $60m (from a Founder who did it)

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