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Vuong: Full autonomy requires an incremental mixed-autonomy approach
“We think that it's going to be more like a peeling an audience analogy, where you start from a really strong base model that have all sorts of common sense knowledge and already works to some extent on your robot, and you have then a Mixed autonomy system. Ver…”
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Vuong: Models perform complex robotic tasks zero-shot, saving hundreds of hours
“Today it's possible to perform tasks Zero shot. Zero shot meaning you don't collect any data. And these are the tasks that last year might have required like hundreds and hundreds of hours.”
Disclosure
Vuong: PI's complex robot evaluations actually run on remote cloud models
“Almost all of the robot evaluation that we run at Pi today, including the really Complicated demo that we have shown making coffee, folding laundry, mobile robots navigating around. The model actually hosted in the cloud.”
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Vuong: PI integrated with robot startups without ever inspecting their hardware
“And the, one other interesting thing about our collaboration with Weave and Ultra is one, I've never seen their robot in person. Two is I have very little idea about how their robot actually works. And that's a very intentional choice. I want to stay away from…”
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Vuong: Reactive AI models eliminate the need for expensive, high-precision hardware
“You don't need a incredibly expensive robot that is capable of very precise motion today to be able to do this task. And the reason why is this model really reactive? And so they can compensate for some of the inaccuracy in the actual robot movement”
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Vuong: LLMs lack a fundamental understanding of the physical world
“This only works for simple cases today, and the reason why that's the case is because I think it's pretty fundamental limitation of the model that we have today, which is that they are not at the core model that take action in the world and see the consequence…”
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Vuong: Vision-language models transfer semantic knowledge to low-level physical actions
“And what this two work really show is that if you start from a vision language model that is really powerful, and you kind of use robotic data to adapt this model to speak robot language, if you will then you see a lot of transfer from the kind of knowledge th…”
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Vuong: OpenX generalist robot model outperformed embodiment-specific specialists by 50%
“You can compare it to the specialist that has been optimized to work well on a particular embodiment. How does it compare? And the interesting result from OpenX is it was 50% better.”
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Vuong: ImageNet was more impactful than OpenX because it solved evaluation
“I still think that ImageNet was more impactful in the vision community, and the reason for that is a few. The first is that ImageNet also allowed for reproducible evaluation, right? You know, OpenX as an effort was more about making data available for kind of …”
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Vuong: Absorbing diverse data is easier than scaling proprietary hardware
“And cross embodiment, there is the data collection aspect of, as well, which is to really make sure that your model and your organizations and infrastructure are set up to consume data From many different sources of robots, and that actually allows you to scal…”
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Vuong: Single-robot scaling fails due to hardware and software drift
“And the argument is that, you know, single robot is simpler to scale. And actually that's not how it plays out in practice. Like how it plays out in practice is even if you have a single robot that you're optimizing for, over time that Platform is going to dri…”
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Vuong: Foundation models turn robotics from custom engineering into data scaling
“The interesting thing about the approach is that you're converting it from a very difficult engineering problem into a operation problems of how do I identify the use case, and how do I collect the right data, which is, in some sense, more scalable, because yo…”
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Vuong: Robotic cloud inference latency can be buried within control loops
“One of the inset that we have here is that you can actually bury the inference time Within the robot control loop because, you know, if I'm a robot, I have enough action for me to execute for the next hundred milliseconds. Like, there's no reason for me to wai…”
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Vuong: A Cambrian explosion of vertical robotics startups is coming worldwide
“But, you know, myself personally, I believe there's going to be a Cambrian explosion of robotic company across the entire world and across many, many different vertical. Just because it's just so much cheaper to build, and it doesn't require you know, someone …”
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Physical Intelligence: Open-Source π0 Weights Match Internal Research Models Exactly
“We open source PI zero and PI zero five. And people also shocked when they asked me, you know, is there any difference between PI zero and PI zero five that you open source versus the model that we use internally PI zero and PI zero five? And the answer was, I…”
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Vuong: Robotics evaluation difficulty scales superlinearly with task duration
“Evaluation is a really hard problem in robotics because it scales super linearly to model capability. Like, let's say you have a model that can perform a two-minute task. Running evaluation for that is very different from running evaluation for a task that's 2…”
Disclosure
Vuong: Claude-based on-call agent boosted compute utilization by 50%
“We have a Claude skill that essentially serving the role of a pre-training on call today. So, you know, we have these pre-training runs that are really large it's very, I think, a difficult exercise to keep them alive, to, you know, for them to continue to chu…”
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Vuong: Physical Intelligence aims to build a universal robotics model
“Our mission is to build a model that can control any robot, to do any task that is physically capable of, and to do so as such a high level of performance that's going to be useful to people in all walks of life.”
Insight
Vuong: SayCan showed language models can reduce robot-specific training data
“I think the first is Seikan, which to me was the first demonstration of language model and how you can bring all of the common sense knowledge in language model into robotics, and therefore that significantly kind of reduces the need to collect robot-specific …”
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Vuong: Cross-embodiment training teaches AI abstract, general control principles
“If you have enough robots in your training data, maybe what the model learned isn't to control one specific robot. What the model learned is something that's more abstract, which is how do I kind of learn a general notion of what it means to control any partic…”
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Vuong: Solving general robotics could add 10% to the US GDP
“Let's say if we actually solve robotics, a model that can control any robot to do any task, napkin math maybe contribute 10% to US GDP. Well, that's already a massive number and I think that promise is one of the reasons that warrants the investment into data …”
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Vuong: PI's laundry demo successfully folded unseen garments zero-shot
“No two items of clothing here are the same, and these are also unseen. You know, these are not, like, clothing items that are seen in the training data.”
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Vuong: PI built an autonomous laundry-folding system in just two weeks
“And it actually didn't even take us that long to get this result. It was roughly where we set a goal and maybe it was like two weeks afterwards where we got, got a model that was, got a model and a system that was good enough at performing this task.”
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Vuong: PI reached real robot deployments in two years, beating expectations
“And when we started the company, we thought that real deployment is going to be a con, it's only going to be in a conversation like five years. Into the life of the company, because the problem is just really hard, and we're two years in, and, you know, this i…”