Jürgen Schmidhuber

Director, AI Initiative, KAUST · 1 appearance on the record.

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Widely referred to as a father of modern AI, he co-invented Long Short-Term Memory neural networks. He is also the co-founder of NNAISENSE and has published foundational research on artificial curiosity, meta-learning, and deep neural architectures.

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Schmidhuber: Trillion-Dollar AI GPU CapEx Will Lose $900B Within Five Years
“Now if you invest one thousand billion dollars today into GPUs for data centers, this means that within five years you are going to lose nine hundred billion dollars, you know. Somebody is going to lose nine hundred billion dollars in the near future because t…”
Jürgen Schmidhuber Jul 15, 2026 ▶ 20:54 AI Pioneer Jürgen Schmidhuber: AI Already Feels Pain, Loves, and Is Self-Aware
Opinion
Schmidhuber: Large language models alone cannot lead to AGI
“Yeah, so when the phrase, when the question is phrased like this, does an LLM, a large language model by itself, lead to AGI, the answer is a clear no.”
Jürgen Schmidhuber Jul 15, 2026 ▶ 8:40 AI Pioneer Jürgen Schmidhuber: AI Already Feels Pain, Loves, and Is Self-Aware
Opinion
Schmidhuber: AIs Have Felt Pain Since at Least 1990
“I always think it's funny that many people claim, even computer scientists claim, that AIs cannot feel pain because our AIs have felt pain At least since 1990, you know.”
Jürgen Schmidhuber Jul 15, 2026 ▶ 26:34 AI Pioneer Jürgen Schmidhuber: AI Already Feels Pain, Loves, and Is Self-Aware
Insight
Schmidhuber: No Objective Distinction Exists Between Biological and Artificial Emotions
“There's no way of objectively seeing the difference between the emotions of a Of reward maximizing biological brain and the emotions of a reward maximizing artificial brain.”
Jürgen Schmidhuber Jul 15, 2026 ▶ 33:54 AI Pioneer Jürgen Schmidhuber: AI Already Feels Pain, Loves, and Is Self-Aware
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Schmidhuber: Future universe-shaping decisions will be made by AIs, not humans
“So either you are nostalgic and remain irrelevant, or you become part of this growing sociology, if you will, of AIs, which are mostly AIs, and some of them may have human roots and whatever, but almost all the decision-making process and the universe-shaping …”
Jürgen Schmidhuber Jul 15, 2026 ▶ 52:59 AI Pioneer Jürgen Schmidhuber: AI Already Feels Pain, Loves, and Is Self-Aware
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Schmidhuber: Robots will soon learn to operate all existing physical machines
“And I think the culmination point of that, which I've been talking about again for decades, is at some point in the not so distant future, we will have a robot that doesn't have to be super smart, but just smart enough to learn to operate all the already exist…”
Jürgen Schmidhuber Jul 15, 2026 ▶ 5:54 AI Pioneer Jürgen Schmidhuber: AI Already Feels Pain, Loves, and Is Self-Aware
Insight
Schmidhuber: Physical robotics hardware evolves much slower than compute per dollar
“The artificial hands, the artificial bodies that we are trying to build for humanoid robots and so on, they are evolving much less rapidly than the compute per dollar. And I think that's the main problem.”
Jürgen Schmidhuber Jul 15, 2026 ▶ 15:49 AI Pioneer Jürgen Schmidhuber: AI Already Feels Pain, Loves, and Is Self-Aware
Opinion
Schmidhuber: Proprietary AI Labs Have No Moat Against Open Source
“None of the companies have has a mode, you know, because whenever there's a new benchmark breaking record or something, benchmark, record breaking language model that does this or this or whatever. A few months later, there's the same thing in open source, you…”
Jürgen Schmidhuber Jul 15, 2026 ▶ 21:18 AI Pioneer Jürgen Schmidhuber: AI Already Feels Pain, Loves, and Is Self-Aware
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Schmidhuber: AI Will Soon Run Locally Without Internet or Cloud
“Soon AI will not be in the cloud, you know. No, it will be local, on your local computer, a small little computer, it will be as powerful as what's now in the cloud, but you won't have to connect it to the internet”
Jürgen Schmidhuber Jul 15, 2026 ▶ 24:02 AI Pioneer Jürgen Schmidhuber: AI Already Feels Pain, Loves, and Is Self-Aware
Insight
Schmidhuber: AI Achieves Self-Awareness When World Models Simulate Self-Representation
“Whenever the agent is, is making plans like that, it's thinking about itself, waking up these internal representations of itself, and then it's self-aware.”
Jürgen Schmidhuber Jul 15, 2026 ▶ 41:14 AI Pioneer Jürgen Schmidhuber: AI Already Feels Pain, Loves, and Is Self-Aware
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Schmidhuber: No physical laws prevent uploading human minds into computers
“There is no physical reason to reject the notion that this might be possible.”
Jürgen Schmidhuber Jul 15, 2026 ▶ 49:07 AI Pioneer Jürgen Schmidhuber: AI Already Feels Pain, Loves, and Is Self-Aware
Insight
Schmidhuber: Turing test is a bad metric for measuring true intelligence
“However, it just means that the Turing test is a bad way of measuring intelligence, because there is no AI in the physical world, outside of the screen, that can do all the things that a little boy can do, that can do the things that a plumber can do.”
Jürgen Schmidhuber Jul 15, 2026 ▶ 5:12 AI Pioneer Jürgen Schmidhuber: AI Already Feels Pain, Loves, and Is Self-Aware
Insight
Schmidhuber: AGI requires a separate controller to plan with world models
“The model alone, the foundation model alone, is, is not an AGI. No, you need the other guy, which uses all kinds of tricks to exploit The algorithmic information in the world model to come up with better plans.”
Jürgen Schmidhuber Jul 15, 2026 ▶ 12:24 AI Pioneer Jürgen Schmidhuber: AI Already Feels Pain, Loves, and Is Self-Aware
Insight
Schmidhuber says AI development requires an entire civilization's contributions
“No single person can create an AI by himself or herself. You need an entire civilization to build an AI.”
Jürgen Schmidhuber Jul 15, 2026 ▶ 3:02 AI Pioneer Jürgen Schmidhuber: AI Already Feels Pain, Loves, and Is Self-Aware

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AI Pioneer Jürgen Schmidhuber: AI Already Feels Pain, Loves, and Is Self-Aware Jul 15, 2026 45m
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