CapEx

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54 statements about CapEx, every show

CATALYST Insight
Wang: CapEx dominates backup power economics, making diesel the cheapest solution
“Honestly, CapEx is the most important cost metric when it comes to backup systems, because they're not used very often. You don't care that the fuel is more expensive. It's really about how cheap is your generator, and diesel is by far the cheapest solution ou…”
Richard Wang Aug 27, 2026 ▶ 12:11 The rise of metal fuels
BIG TECHNOLOGY Assertion Supported
Microsoft Shifted CapEx to OpEx by Extending Data Center Leases
“In this quarter, they decided that they were going to basically change the way that they account for their data center leases. And so historically they've actually Considered them to be 15 years. And that basically meant that they were you know, taking on the …”
M.G. Siegler Aug 10, 2026 ▶ 33:31 Demis Steps Down, Apple’s Memory Problem, Microsoft’s Clever Trick
Cahn: The only way to repay massive AI CapEx is achieving AGI
“If you kind of think about those dollars of CapEx, the only possible way to pay those dollars back is going to be AGI.”
David Cahn Aug 5, 2026 ▶ 13:06 How The AI Bet Pays Off + AI Lab Strategy Game — With David Cahn
Cahn: Spending $200B a year on AI CapEx without new business lines is unsustainable
“The current status quo of we're spending two hundred billion dollars a year on CapEx. And, you know, yes, we're renting our GPUs, so revenue is accelerating, but fundamentally there's no There's not a new business line coming out of it. That is not sustainable…”
David Cahn Aug 5, 2026 ▶ 13:56 How The AI Bet Pays Off + AI Lab Strategy Game — With David Cahn
Cahn: Apple could emerge as a genius if AI models commoditize
“Apple is the one, by the way, with the do nothing strategy. Like you gotta look at Apple and say, wow, like there's some chance that Apple just comes out looking like a genius on this. Like if it does commoditize, Apple's not spending money on CapEx.”
David Cahn Aug 5, 2026 ▶ 53:54 How The AI Bet Pays Off + AI Lab Strategy Game — With David Cahn
SOURCERY Prediction Not checkable as stated
Tony Kim: AI compute requires $10 trillion in CapEx over five years
“So this is the irony of it all, that we're, the trillion dollars of CapEx this year, and the 10 trillion over the next five years that are coming, Is to move data centimeters and millimeters. That's AI.”
Tony Kim Jul 24, 2026 ▶ 7:08 BlackRock's Tony Kim on AI's Next Winners? Chips, Memory, Robotics & Quantum · Sourcery with Molly O'Shea
SAASTR Assertion Supported
O'Driscoll: Tech CapEx grew from $200B to $600B in four years
“I mean, you've gone from two hundred billion in capex four years ago to six hundred billion in capex, which means someone is pocketing four hundred billion dollars a year.”
Rory O'Driscoll Jul 15, 2026 ▶ 10:47 Software Isn't Dead. It's Gotten Harder with Scale Venture Partners' Rory O'Driscoll
Krishna: AI data center buildout promises make no economic sense
“If I take all the verbal promises, and if you say there's a 125 gigawatts of AI data centers that are going to come online in the next two to three years, that's the eight to 12 trillion of CapEx in total. Not in one year, in total. That is where I come to. I …”
Arvind Krishna Jun 23, 2026 ▶ 21:33 IBM's $10 billion bet on what comes after AI (with CEO Arvind Krishna) | Masters of Scale
a16z Prediction Open · timeframe Jun 2028
Evans: Tech industry will spend $1T to $2T on AI CapEx
“Over the next couple of years, we've got like a trillion or two trillion dollars of capex coming down the pipe, and the models get a hundred x, 200 x, if it's more efficient every year.”
Benedict Evans Jun 8, 2026 ▶ 13:28 The Economics of AI Usage and What's Next For SaaS | Benedict Evans on a16z
a16z Assertion Open · timeframe Dec 2026
Evans: Microsoft, Meta, and Google spending over 50% of revenue on CapEx
“Microsoft, Meta, and Google are all on, in line to spend over 50% of revenue on CapEx this year.”
Benedict Evans Jun 8, 2026 ▶ 48:31 The Economics of AI Usage and What's Next For SaaS | Benedict Evans on a16z
CAPITAL ALLOCATORS Assertion Partly supported
Jain: Mag 7 historical capex was $1.5T; next 3 years project $3T
“The cumulative capex of all these MAG companies in their history is one and a half trillion dollars. Think about it. Now they're talking about three trillion in just three years.”
Rajiv Jain Jun 8, 2026 ▶ 33:04 Contrarian Quality at GQG Partners – Rajiv Jain (EP.505)
20VC Assertion Partly supported
O'Driscoll: Big Tech AI CapEx growth consumes most free cash flow
“These same companies are doubling down on CapEx, letting it grow 50, 60%, such that CapEx is now eating most of their free cash flow.”
Rory O'Driscoll May 7, 2026 ▶ 4:01 Anthropic's Raise & What It Means for Potential IPO? Mag7: Google & Amazon Up, Meta & Microsoft Down · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
20VC Assertion Not checkable as stated
O'Driscoll: AI requires $3 to $4 in CapEx per $1 of revenue
“Every dollar of revenue that Antropic does means someone, either Antropic or its partners, has to invest three or four x in CapEx because it's just expensive in terms of compute to service AI.”
Rory O'Driscoll May 7, 2026 ▶ 1:06:16 Anthropic's Raise & What It Means for Potential IPO? Mag7: Google & Amazon Up, Meta & Microsoft Down · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
BIG TECHNOLOGY Prediction Open · timeframe May 2029
Siegler: Apple will likely increase CapEx spending for AI inference
“I think that it's a reasonable assumption to make that they're going to start spending more on capex too. Even if they're not going to train models, they're not going to train an LLM inference and doing other things that you need to do.”
M.G. Siegler May 5, 2026 ▶ 27:26 Did Apple Get AI Spending Right?, Microsoft & OpenAI’s New Reality, Where’s Stargate?
20VC Insight
O'Driscoll: AI foundation models require $4-$5 of CapEx per $1 revenue
“And the capital intensity for every dollar of run rate revenue, it probably takes four or five dollars of CapEx to support that, right?”
Rory O’Driscoll Apr 30, 2026 ▶ 21:21 Anthropic Raises $45B but Falls Short on Compute & Thoma Bravo Hand Back Medallia Keys to Creditors · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
SOURCERY Insight
Building a data center requires roughly $50 billion in CapEx per gigawatt
“You could kind of say, rule of thumb, one gigawatt data center, or per gigawatt, you have to spend about fifty billion dollars of capex.”
Hannan Happi Apr 15, 2026 ▶ 35:59 Inside the Factory Using Rocks & Sunlight to Fix AI's Power Problem | Exowatt · Sourcery with Molly O'Shea
CHEEKY PINT Assertion Supported
Pichai: Google scaled capital expenditures from $30 billion to $180 billion
“Look, I think, you know, we probably have scaled our capex from thirty billion to a hundred and approximately a hundred and eighty billion.”
Sundar Pichai Apr 7, 2026 ▶ 17:06 The history and future of AI at Google, with Sundar Pichai
CATALYST Assertion Partly supported
Johnson: Clean energy financing reached $200B on $120B CapEx in 2025
“When I tell you that the CapEx number, so the total investment in these projects, was a hundred and twenty billion in twenty-twenty-five, the total financing number is actually north of 200, because some amount of the capital that came in later takes out earli…”
Alfred Johnson Apr 6, 2026 ▶ 5:32 Frontier Forum: Why clean energy capital boomed in a volatile year [partner content]
CAPITAL ALLOCATORS Assertion Partly supported
Grantham: AI CapEx is larger than any peacetime program in history
“AI Moving at warp speed, involving a greater CapEx program than has ever happened before outside of war.”
Jeremy Grantham Mar 23, 2026 ▶ 46:57 Jeremy Grantham – Bubbles, Value Investing, and the Long Game at GMO (EP.493)
Teskey: Brookfield Only Invests When Four Key Contracts Are Locked
“Whenever we build a new project, we do not like to put capital in the ground unless we lock in our CapEx contract, our off-take contract, our EPC contract, and our financing contract all at once.”
Connor Teskey Mar 17, 2026 ▶ 16:20 Beating the Market: Connor Teskey, CEO Brookfield Asset Management
ANOTHER PODCAST Assertion Supported
Evans: Big four platforms spent $400B CapEx last year, targeting $650B+
“Like the big four platform companies spent Four hundred billion dollars on CapEx last year, and they've announced something in the region of six hundred and fifty billion dollars this year, maybe more.”
Benedict Evans Feb 28, 2026 ▶ 2:54 The end of the network effect
TBPN Insight
Gurley: Easy VC markets lead investors to back ill-fitting, capex-heavy businesses
“Every time venture cap, every time venture capital gets easy, people take or take risk with companies that are less of a great fit for the venture capital model. And when I say a great fit, like they're either heavy capex or they have low gross margins. They r…”
Bill Gurley Feb 25, 2026 ▶ 24:11 Full Interview: Bill Gurley Thinks College Kills Creativity
Sam Lessin: Apple's low AI CapEx positions it to win decentralized AI
“The irony of all this is kind of plays to Apple's hands in a weird way, right? Like I have to say I am a perennial Apple hater. I love how little they're spending on CapEx. I think it's the greatest thing ever.”
Sam Lessin Feb 13, 2026 ▶ 35:35 Why OpenAI Can't Win The Decentralized AI Future (OpenClaw, Apple's Win, X.AI Exodus) · More or Less Podcast
a16z Assertion Partly supported
David George: Tech CapEx relative to revenue is lower than dot-com levels
“So relative to the dot com, CapEx is actually supported by cash flows, and CapEx as a percentage of revenue Is considerably lower.”
David George Feb 9, 2026 ▶ 30:25 AI Markets: Deep Dive with a16z's David George
TBPN Assertion Supported
Coogan: Alphabet projects $175B to $185B in 2026 CapEx
“The company said it expected to spend between a hundred and seventy-five billion and a hundred and eighty-five billion in capex in twenty-twenty-six up from ninety-one billion to ninety-three billion in twenty-twenty-five.”
John Coogan Feb 6, 2026 ▶ 20:30 Anthropic’s Trust Nuke, OpenAI’s new releases, Google Claims AI Crown | Diet TBPN
MAD Prediction Open · timeframe Dec 2026
Patel: Hyperscaler capex will reach roughly $500 billion this year
“Hyperscalers capex is going to be like five hundred billion dollars this year or something like this.”
Dylan Patel Feb 5, 2026 ▶ 50:11 Dylan Patel: NVIDIA's New Moat & Why China is "Semiconductor Pilled”
CATALYST Prediction Open · timeframe Dec 2026
Bullard: Tech CapEx has likely not peaked and will rise next year
“This is probably not the peak. Like, most of the estimates based on what companies themselves are saying for their estimated CapEx have a higher number for next year, right?”
Nat Bullard Jan 15, 2026 ▶ 32:04 2026 trends: Gas turbines, Texas’ load queue and China electrifies
WE LIVE TO BUILD Assertion Contradicted
Rajendran: $400B annual AI CapEx is largest buildout since 19th-century railroads
“When I think about the scale of the CapEx right now, which is Probably about four hundred billion a year, according to I think an estimate from Bain. We're at no, no question at like the biggest investment in, in fixed capital that we've seen since the buildin…”
Vijay Rajendran Dec 16, 2025 ▶ 24:36 Over Capacity Built the Internet. Vijay Says AI Is Next
BG2 Assertion Partly supported
Gerstner: Magnificent Five capital expenditures jumped from $156B to $379B
“In 2023, their total capex was one hundred and fifty six billion. And this year it's three hundred and seventy nine billion.”
Brad Gerstner Oct 14, 2025 ▶ 23:18 AI Bubble, Stablecoin Boom, and Runnin' Down a Dream | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley and Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
BG2 Assertion Not checkable as stated
Gerstner: OpenAI deals imply $150B in CapEx by 2030
“If you add them all up, it looks like to me, OpenAI would be on the hook for like a hundred and fifty billion of CapEx in 2030.”
Brad Gerstner Oct 14, 2025 ▶ 27:17 AI Bubble, Stablecoin Boom, and Runnin' Down a Dream | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley and Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Cool: Hiring a $100K employee represents a $1M capital allocation decision
“If you thought of it as a CapEx decision, if you're going to hire someone for a hundred grand, right, a year, and you think the, you know, discount the value of that, like, you know, it's a million dollar investment that you're making in that person.”
Tracy Britt Cool Oct 14, 2025 ▶ 1:30:27 Building Great Businesses | Tracy Britt Cool
MORE OR LESS Assertion Supported
Dave Morin: Apple spends 10-20% of income on CapEx versus 50%+ for peers
“Apple spending something like 10 to 20% of income on this capex. Everyone else is like well north of 50.”
Dave Morin Oct 10, 2025 ▶ 34:13 Oracle's GPU Margins, OpenAI’s Consumer Playbook, and the Ads vs Commerce Endgame · More or Less Podcast
20VC Insight
O'Driscoll: Legacy SaaS valuation models are broken for AI startups
“When they were all SaaS recurring revenue businesses, all seat based, all 90%, 80% gross margin with no CapEx, Right? All enterprise sales with low churn. It absolutely made sense. You could compare two companies, and that's why by 2019 or 20, it almost felt l…”
Rory O'Driscoll Oct 2, 2025 ▶ 7:53 Are Burn Multiples BS in an AI World? & Sam Altman Needs $1TRN of Energy · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
CAPITAL ALLOCATORS Prediction Not checkable as stated
Meli: AI CapEx infrastructure will be overbuilt
“The CapEx will be overbuilt. Infrastructure, highways, all these things, you ultimately in a CapEx cycle, you just don't know if today you're in the third inning or eighth inning.”
Adrian Meli Sep 15, 2025 ▶ 33:21 Adrian Meli – Active Equity Excellence at Eagle (EP.459)
20VC Assertion Supported
O'Driscoll: Microsoft's capital expenditure has reached 25% of its revenue
“Microsoft CapEx as a percentage of revenue has crept up to 25%.”
Rory O'Driscoll Aug 21, 2025 ▶ 1:10:34 Databricks at $100BN, CoreWeave’s $11B Debt Bet & Nubank’s $2.5B Profit Shocker - Ep.19 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
a16z Prediction Not checkable as stated
Patel: Tech hyperscalers can grow AI capex 20% to 30% next year
“The hyperscalers still can grow capex 20, 30% next year, right, from what they're doing this year.”
Dylan Patel Aug 18, 2025 ▶ 20:09 Dylan Patel on GPT-5’s Router Moment, GPUs vs TPUs, Monetization
BIG TECHNOLOGY Assertion Supported
Tom Lee: Much of Tech CapEx Is Maintenance, Not AI
“Not a hundred percent of tech spend is AI. A lot of it is maintenance CapEx and expansion CapEx and, you know, the catch up for spending that's been deferred because of COVID, et cetera.”
Tom Lee Jun 25, 2025 ▶ 0:53 Tom Lee: Decoding the AI Trade, Bitcoin Predictions & What an AI Black Swan Event Might Look Like
CATALYST Disclosure
Stark: AtmosZero trades operational efficiency to massively reduce CapEx
“We're essentially looking at decreasing our overall efficiency, but ideally to be able to massively decrease capex.”
Addison Stark Jun 19, 2025 ▶ 26:05 The story of steam
ALL-IN Opinion
Sacks: Massive AI CapEx buildout makes sense given token intensity
“So the amount of compute required to serve all these new applications is going to be massive, which is why I think the CapEx build out actually makes sense.”
David Sacks May 3, 2025 ▶ 1:30:19 Trump's First 100 Days, Tariffs Impact Trade, AI Agents, Amazon Backs Down
BG2 Insight
Gurley: Capex freezes create a self-reinforcing inflationary reflexivity loop
“The reflexivity already starts to take place, everything you just described. And once it does, some of it is certainly self-reinforcing, so you start decommitting capex, you start decommitting you know, basic capacity on different manufacturing lines, planes, …”
Bill Gurley Apr 24, 2025 ▶ 59:15 Tariffs, Free Trade, Export Controls, H20 & Rare Earth Ban | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
CATALYST Insight
Lubbershane: Robotics substitutes CapEx for OpEx, requiring high utilization
“If you are building a robot, it is still substituting CapEx for OpEx effectively, right? You're taking OpEx, which is human labor costs out of the equation for some number of years, and you're investing a big chunk of CapEx up front to in order to do so in, in…”
Andy Lubershane Mar 20, 2025 ▶ 16:07 The coming robotics wave
BG2 Assertion Supported
Gerstner: Microsoft is spending 80% of free cash flow on CapEx
“Microsoft, I think, is spending 80% of their free cash flow, right, on CapEx.”
Brad Gerstner Mar 2, 2025 ▶ 39:02 Grok 3, AI Memory & Voice, China, DOGE, Public Market Pull Back | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
CATALYST Disclosure
Kimber: Intersect Power is project financing about $9B of capex
“We're in the middle of project financing about nine billion dollars of capex right now.”
Sheldon Kimber Feb 13, 2025 ▶ 44:46 The case for colocating data centers and generation
ALL-IN Prediction Held up
Lafont: Top five US tech companies will spend $312B on 2025 CapEx
“And we know that in total, 20, 25 CapEx for the top five players in the US is going to be three hundred and twelve billion, right?”
Thomas Laffont Jan 25, 2025 ▶ 1:18:07 Trump's First Week: Inauguration Recap, Executive Actions, TikTok, Stargate + Sacks is Back!
BG2 Assertion Partly supported
Gerstner: Microsoft is on an $80 billion annual CapEx run rate
“In their most recent quarter, they did about twenty billion in capex bill, and you just, you know, he said earlier in the year, which caused, or a couple of days ago, which caused a bit of a kerfuffle that they expected to spend eighty billion in capex this ye…”
Brad Gerstner Jan 11, 2025 ▶ 15:24 Market Predictions, Rates & Inflation, DOGE, CES, AI Compute | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
BG2 Opinion
Patel: Wall Street hyperscaler CapEx estimates are far too low
“I think when you look at the streets estimates for capex, they're all far too low.”
Dylan Patel Dec 23, 2024 ▶ 36:37 AI Semiconductor Landscape feat. Dylan Patel | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
NO PRIORS Prediction Not checkable as stated
Taylor: AI pre-training will consolidate into a small number of frontier model builders
“I think that will probably play out with the frontier models. We'll end up with a relatively small number of companies doing pre-training you know, which is the really capital intensive part of model building not because, you know, there's not, they're the onl…”
Bret Taylor Sep 19, 2024 ▶ 15:41 No Priors Ep. 82 | With CEO of Sierra Bret Taylor
BG2 Prediction Held up
Gerstner: Big Four Tech to Spend $220B on CapEx in 2024
“If you look at the big four, they're gonna spend two hundred and twenty billion this year on CapEx, you know.”
Brad Gerstner Aug 9, 2024 ▶ 32:02 Ep14. Public Market Volatility, AI Air Pocket, $GOOG Ruling | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Fink: Investors prefer incremental business transformations over five-year CapEx bets
“And really what investors are looking for is not that people can't transform their businesses, but that they do it in an incremental way, in a way where you take small steps, You make sure they work and you get better and better over time rather than I'm going…”
Anne-Marie Fink Jun 3, 2024 ▶ 10:53 Anne-Marie Fink - Cutting Edge Pension Investing at SWIB (EP.389)
MY FIRST MILLION Assertion Supported
Puri: Sweetgreen's robot retrofit costs $500k and lifts margins 7%
“And I think in their last earnings call, they said it's about 500 K to Put the robot in. So you put an extra 500 K to build the store. But again, this is 500 K of CapEx, which means you can depreciate it, which is good for your, you know, tax purposes and what…”
Shaan Puri Mar 8, 2024 ▶ 15:11 Elon Musk SUES Sam Altman
Downing: Utility CapEx return models heavily disincentivize low-cost VPP adoption
“The utility business model of compensating CapEx spending with maybe a seven to nine percent margin and passing through OPEX at cost to the consumer does not give utilities the right incentives to choose low-cost options such as VPPs”
Jen Downing Feb 15, 2024 ▶ 30:32 Virtual power plants: the ‘sandwich’ for the grid
ACQUIRED Assertion Supported
Gilbert: NVIDIA spends only $1 billion annually on CapEx
“Nvidia only has a billion dollars of capex per year.”
Ben Gilbert Apr 20, 2022 ▶ 1:59:28 Nvidia: The Machine Learning Company (2006-2022) · Acquired
Martin: Still Lake Capital targets regular businesses at 10x EBIT minus CapEx
“I try to buy businesses, non-financial, regular businesses at 10 times EBIT.less CapEx.”
Bruce Martin Aug 19, 2021 ▶ 43:05 Bruce Martin – Still Lake Capital [Manager Meetings, EP.7)
20VC Assertion Not checkable as stated
John Frankel Says Startup Creation Costs Have Bottomed Out
“I think it's pretty much bottomed out. I think we've pretty much taken most of the OPEX, or rather, most of the CAPEX involved in starting a business making an OPEX. I'm not sure it goes down much from here, because now you're down to people costs, And real es…”
John Frankel Apr 27, 2016 ▶ 5:06 20VC: Why Every Successful Company Pivots and Good Companies Get Funded in Good & Bad Markets with John Frankel, Founding Partner @ ff Venture Capital

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