Android

“Phone harness connects an agent like Codex or Cloud Code to a real iPhone or Android. Super cool, right? For iPhone, it uses Mac iPhone mirroring, and for Android, it uses ADB, so you don't have to, like, jailbreak it”

“Apple and Google or Android have both locks Wi-Fi location. You cannot access it as a developer.”

“It might end up being a situation like Apple and Android, where Android got a lot of market share, but Apple's where all the monetization was.”

“If Android represents all open source models, open weights, et cetera, iOS represents frontier labs. I feel like we're going to head down a path with a similar breakdown in the U S and globally. We're like three quarters of the world are going to choose open s…”

“We could make these, this technology a lot better by moving it to the cloud and by taking advantage of Android hardware, because Android hardware actually is open, which allows for which allowed us to build our own hardware, which was critical to building some…”

“One of the early stories from Robinhood I love is that the deposit amounts from people with iOS were twice the ones from people with Android. And their assumption was just, oh, like people with iPhone just have more money. So they're depositing more money. And…”

“In about a month for Instagram, we could have done it probably in a week with the models”

“Android we built. In about a month for Instagram, we could have done it probably in a week with the models”

“Like, it's really important to still bring on folks with those expertise, but we probably don't need like as large because people are flexing.”

“We are we're one of the few, or maybe the only company in the world to have KIC access to every secondary iOS and Android device in the world.”

“Another thing that we've actually recently added support now for, it's in beta, is doing Android development. To do that, we needed to support, I think, nested virtualization within our machines, because the VM itself is like a, is a virtualized firecracker in…”

“They're using Intel's Wildcat Lake, which is the core series, 300 and arm based chips from Qualcomm and MediaTek. They're running an operating system that combines Android and Chrome OS.”

“So like, first of all, my personal opinion, the government should give a free Android to everybody who wants one. Like you should be able to go to the social security office and just get a phone. Like it's a basic human right at this point, in my opinion.”

“For now, what we've decided is that our edge models, the things we want to use for Android, and glasses, and robotics it's best that they're open models. Because they're vulnerable anyway on the, once you put them out on the surfaces, so they might as well be …”

“So physical machines today are more akin to the state of the phone market before Android and iOS existed.”

“And, you know, we think we can do the same in, in all these physical moving machines with the difference that we're really in a safety critical realm. Android isn't.”

“Android is way too bloated to work effectively on a pair of glasses.”

“With a new iPhone, you can have meaningful amount of trust against that, but with old Android phones basically not. And so yeah, you know, because like you can just you can just show a deep fake essentially either through a display or just directly injected in…”

“If these large model companies are going to cannibalize the end product, if you build on top of them, I think for a young entrepreneur, it's important not to be short-sighted and kind of like diversify and hedge what they build on top of not, it's not a, it's …”

“Google has also taken steps to remove hundreds of apps affiliated with the company from Android devices, it said. The actions are expected to knock more than nine million Android devices off Ipodea's network.”

“Like, if you look at Android, Gemini is at, like, 50% of ChatGPT's scale on mobile, whereas on iOS it's, like, 17%.”

“Everyone talks about Android and Palantir and SpaceX. Those are the three companies that in the last 10 years have broken into The defense sector to challenge Lockheed Martin, Arthur Grumman, and sort of the old, older primes.”

“I actually think glasses aside, just what Siri is supposed to do on the iPhone, like every Android device out there having Gemini as your voice interaction layer is, is a huge advantage.”

“ChatGPT seems to be the dominant player in the new, new gen horizontal information discovery. Although I think Gemini with this channel advantage through control of Android and Chrome, you know, is a serious player as well.”

“The thing that I saw him the most frustrated about in our conversations was the fact that he has to go through Apple and Android in order to deliver his services. He hates just being an app on the phone”

“Now today the China ecosystem actually follows the global ecosystem which is good from the standpoint that every mobile phone in China, it doesn't run Google Android, but it runs a version of Android, and it leverages the app ecosystem that comes off of Androi…”

“That's certainly one strategy we're pursuing is a kind of Android play, if you like, a crossroad as a kind of robotics, almost an OS layer, cross robotics. But there's also some quite interesting things about vertically integrating our latest models with speci…”

“And the judge who brought the ruling on Tuesday, Amit Mehta, basically ruled across the board, none of that needs to happen. It can keep Chrome, it can keep Android, it can continue to pay for distribution within Apple devices, and the partnerships can continu…”

“The judge denied the DOJ's request for forced divestiture. Of Chrome and Android.”

“Google historically, when it came to AWS, Open source Kubernetes and went after them. When it came to Apple, they open sourced Android and certainly some of their lower models are open sourced and competitive on open router, but maybe they should be more aggre…”

“Over three billion active Android devices now.”

“So July, 2005, Google buys Android for fifty million dollars, five, zero million dollars per Android.”

“If they don't buy Android and they don't get started basically in the month that they did, this market belongs to Microsoft.”

“So Steve Jobs threatens to sue Google over implementation of multi-touch gestures. And so, as a result, Android for several years doesn't have things like pinch to zoom or the sort of swipe operating system UI navigation gestures, and I'm pretty sure if you re…”

“In holiday, 2009, when the droid comes out, total Android market share of the smartphone market is still in the, you know, the G one range, like five, six percent global market share. One year later, 30%. They go from five percent to 30% in one year. They anno…”

“I mean, this is the clearest example of counterpositioning, I think, that has ever existed. Oh, hey, my competitors require you to pay them. How about I pay you instead?”

“Nobody stretches a business model across technology eras. Nobody. And Google did it.”

“It is not particularly long before you're running something which is the equivalent of kind of the current generation of ChatGPT on your iPhone or your, or at your Android device.”

“Android users have had access to Google Assistant for a long time. That's getting phased out. It's just gonna be Gemini.”

“And if you wait for let's say a Samsung or some other Android to deeply integrate with a competitor and provide this experience while you're just standing still and you don't have this integrated into your operating system, I think you could really end up losi…”

“I think as long as OpenAI doesn't totally drop the ball on product or research, like, they have the center of gravity for the AI world, like, in the same way that no matter what Android ships, people are not gonna switch from their iPhones, like, It's somethin…”

“If you want to invest in the next Helsing, don't. Just invest in Helsing. I spend my life with investors who are like, oh, I'm trying to find the next OpenAI, the next Android. Don't. Just put your money in the winner.”

“I don't think that that's necessarily the case right now for exactly the reasons that we're talking about, because I don't think that there's exactly the killer app that, that makes Android that much better than iOS right now.”

“I think ChatGPT will be the Apple-level quality product, but there'll be a whole bunch of Android-type quality products that are out there that will just keep pricing honest if they're commercially available and, you know, universally.”

“Look, they would've taken our stuff cause they could put pressure back on the manufacturers, but we didn't have the stuff they wanted at the right time. They went Android.”

“Android is not a trick. Because you highlighted it. Android is a piece of the search trick.”

“So one decision that we took early on is we're not going to build an Android app because for In the early days, you know, what we built, there was no, it was not like a chat where you should be able to talk with each other or whatever. So we didn't need that. …”

“We are so accustomed to typing things into Chrome, ah, and into the search bar in our Android, and that pulls up Google searches, that as long as they're able to keep those defaults, they're going to be fine, but they may not.”

“A lot of sectors where I think we're going to be living in a, It's a tripolar world. Is that a word? Did I make it up? So there's gonna be an American version. Let's call it Android. There is a European version, Helsing, a Chinese version. Defense, space, ener…”

“We are going to be partnering with a OEM. I think Bloomberg's already written about it. Perplexity will be pre-installed on the phones of that OEM, and we'll be able to, like, push notify all those users to set perplexity as the default assistant on the Androi…”

“I think it's, it helps to go to somewhere and see what right looks like. For me, personally, you know, especially at Android, Palantir, you know, I could go to SpaceX, You know, and then Tesla, just some companies that are producing these founders. I think it …”

“And imagine if the DOD was responsible for building the phone. Versus Apple, or versus Android, and, you know, it's very hard to imagine they can outpace the commercial side.”

“We competed with Google over the mobile phone operating system, and we fell behind, and, you know, today, nobody remembers there was a Windows Mobile thing. It's just Android. For non-Apple phones, it's basically all Android.”

“I think that you're going to end up doing a lot of inference on device. Meaning, instead of going, ah, to the cloud and typing a query, like, 30 to 50% of your inference may be on an Apple or an Android device.”

“And if I had to bet today, it's Android because of the architecture over Apple, but if Apple can do some smart things, maybe they can catch up to this, but some of the design choices and the closed aspects, which have been great for privacy as a feature, may h…”

“Is an Android cloud phone. So it's going to be able to, you know, that has access to all my accounts. So we're going to abstract this away in the execution environments, not really important, but like we can go into technically why Android is actually a pretty…”

“Most future consumer LLM usage will go through existing platforms, Google, Instagram, WhatsApp, Facebook, iPhone, Android.”

“I think it's much cleaner spinoff Chrome. Spin off YouTube, spin off Android, one of those options, something like that would just make a lot more sense to me.”

“If Android put a floating action button down in the bottom right, that's where WhatsApp would put its button too. And we built the same patterns consistently throughout the app”

“Android was a Blackberry clone at the time, not an iPhone clone.”