Venture Fund

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20VC Assertion Not checkable as stated
Mignano: Consensus-Driven Venture Investing Has Been Extremely Lucrative Recently
“And by the way, there have been times in the market, including recently, where being consensus driven has been extremely valuable and extremely lucrative as a fund.”
Mike Mignano Jul 6, 2026 ▶ 6:14 Why Now is the Time for the App Layer | Why Startups Should be TokenMaxxing | Mike Mignano, USV · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
20VC Opinion
Laqua: Blaming Y Combinator for portfolio startup fraud is directionally incorrect
“I think that people blaming like, you know, YC or whatever for some of their companies being frauds is probably not like directionally correct because like internally it's not like any venture fund really wants to like invest in a fraud and people that are lik…”
Nico Laqua May 30, 2026 ▶ 54:30 The Hardest Working Startup in America | Nico Laqua, Co-founder & CEO @ Corgi · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
INNOVATORS & INVESTORS Assertion Partly supported
Franklin: Median Venture Capital Fund Size Is Just Over $26M
“Which by the way, in 25, the median size venture fund is a little over twenty six million dollars.”
Bobby Franklin May 5, 2026 ▶ 22:54 Strengthening the Competitive Edge of American Startups with Bobby Franklin of NVCA | The Innovators & Investors Podcast
20VC Prediction Not checkable as stated
Green: VC liquidity crisis will persist until LPs refuse re-ups
“When LPs go to the biggest venture funds in the world, and private equity funds, and say, we're not investing in your next fund until you get liquidity in these names.”
Mitchell Green Mar 7, 2026 ▶ 49:22 Mitchell Green: Why 50% of VCs Should Not Exist · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Warrington: VCs promising three-year deployment pacing consistently deploy in 2.5 years
“The things that get us most nervous is when someone tells us they're on a three to four year clip. And look, everyone says three to four. In reality, they mean two and a half. We accept that. That's just the reality of venture today. But when someone puts all …”
Sean Warrington Feb 23, 2026 ▶ 33:01 Ed Grefenstette and Sean Warrington – Venture Market Update (EP.488)
INNOVATORS & INVESTORS Assertion Supported
Walker: Carta manages 60,000 startup cap tables and 2,500-3,000 venture funds
“Carta sits on top of the cap table of 60,000 startups these days, as well as fund admin for two and a half to 3000 US venture funds.”
Peter Walker Jan 20, 2026 ▶ 1:46 The New Economics of Startups in the AI Era with Peter Walker of Carta
20VC Assertion Supported
Top-performing venture capital funds historically outperform top private equity funds
“If you were to look at our returns or the top performing venture funds, let's just call it that relative to, you know, top performing PE funds, the top performing venture funds outperform.”
David George Dec 15, 2025 ▶ 15:07 a16z's David George on the Most Controversial Bet at a16z & Do Margins and Revenue Matter in AI? · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
MORE OR LESS Assertion Contradicted
Sam Lessin notes most Sequoia assets sit in Heritage, not venture funds
“The venture funds are still the venture funds, but like most of the assets are not in the venture funds. They're in heritage.”
Sam Lessin Nov 7, 2025 ▶ 29:06 Apple Chooses Gemini, Sequoia's Leadership Shake-up, and Meme Coins · More or Less Podcast
INNOVATORS & INVESTORS Assertion Partly supported
Rizik: 25 mega funds captured 75% of all venture capital in 2024
“In the market last year, I think around 350 venture funds raised, 75% of the money went to 25 funds.”
Chris Rizik Sep 3, 2025 ▶ 19:49 Chris Rizik on Building Renaissance Venture Capital & Boosting Michigan Startups
STARTUPS FOR THE REST OF US Assertion Supported
Vollset: Carta data shows half of VC funds return 1x DPI
“I just saw there was a stat out about Carta where it says like, you know, basically on, on, and DPI is the term distributions to paid in. And basically says like, you know, over 12 years in only about half the funds have returned one X DPI.”
Einar Vollset Sep 2, 2025 ▶ 4:23 Episode 792 | Hot Take Tuesday: GPT-5 Struggles, the A.I. Bubble,...
INNOVATORS & INVESTORS Assertion Partly supported
Morgan: Active VC funds dropped from 1,500 to 800 after dot-com crash
“Well, after the bubble the, I don't know the exact numbers, but there were 1500 venture funds that the bubble started. There were 800 a year later.”
Howard Morgan Sep 2, 2025 ▶ 31:39 Howard Morgan on AI, Global Venture Investing & Founder Insights | NVCA Award Recipient Series
20VC Opinion
O'Driscoll: Outlier consumer successes cannot support a repeatable venture fund strategy
“I think some things are categories of one, and they're very hard to access. And that's the kind of deal where you just go, good on them. I'm not sure you build a repeatable venture fund around that.”
Rory O'Driscoll Aug 21, 2025 ▶ 52:25 Databricks at $100BN, CoreWeave’s $11B Debt Bet & Nubank’s $2.5B Profit Shocker - Ep.19 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
20VC Disclosure
Mignot reveals Index Ventures' latest fund sizes across stages
“We have a three hundred million dollar seed fund eight hundred million venture fund, and one and a half billion gross fund.”
Martin Mignot Aug 11, 2025 ▶ 3:40 Index Ventures Partner, Martin Mignot: Figma, Scale, Wiz: Inside Index’s Decacorn Factory · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
SOURCERY Assertion Partly supported
Ward: Carta has 2,500 venture funds and 35,000 startups
“Yeah, about 2500 venture funds, about 35,000 startups.”
Henry Ward Aug 6, 2025 ▶ 3:41 Carta CEO Henry Ward on Raising $1B, Path to ~$500M ARR, & the Move into PE · Sourcery with Molly O'Shea
20VC Disclosure
CMU Endowment Targets a 4x Net Return on Venture Fund Investments
“And so for us, when we do a venture fund, our target is a forex net. That's our goal.”
Miles Dieffenbach Aug 4, 2025 ▶ 38:15 Miles Dieffenbach: Inside Carnegie Mellon’s $4BN Endowment & The Math Behind DPI, TVPI, Illiquidity · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
20VC Disclosure
Carnegie Mellon Requests Detailed Financial Metrics for Top 10 Fund Assets
“We ask for trending revenue, trending gross profit, and trending free cash flow for the top 10 nabs of every, every fund of we underwrite.”
Miles Dieffenbach Aug 4, 2025 ▶ 59:57 Miles Dieffenbach: Inside Carnegie Mellon’s $4BN Endowment & The Math Behind DPI, TVPI, Illiquidity · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
WE LIVE TO BUILD Assertion Partly supported
Jamison: Venture capital liquidity timelines have stretched to 12-15 years
“The time to liquidity is getting pushed out way further. It used to be, you know, five, six, seven, eight years to get your money back. Now it's like 12, 1315, like even these venture funds keep getting extended.”
Travis Jamison Jul 4, 2025 ▶ 26:32 30% IRR From Plumbers and Dry Cleaners? Here Is How
TBPN Opinion
Dixon: Crypto investing remains non-consensus among major institutional allocators
“As much as we hear about crypto, it's still very non-consensus. A lot of venture funds just simply, maybe they'll have a little bit of Bitcoin, but they'll, otherwise they'll rule it out if there's tokens and things. You talk to fund funds they, a lot of them …”
Chris Dixon Jun 5, 2025 ▶ 13:40 Read Write Own - A16Z Partner Chris Dixon on TBPN
TBPN Assertion Not checkable as stated
Dixon: Major LPs and Sovereign Funds Still Have 'No Crypto' Rules
“A lot of venture funds just simply, maybe they'll have a little bit of Bitcoin, but they'll, otherwise they'll rule it out if there's tokens and things. You talk to fund to funds. They, a lot of them will say we have a no crypto rule, you know, sovereign wealt…”
Chris Dixon May 31, 2025 ▶ 54:17 Weekend Special: Elon Recap, Balaji, Chris Dixon, Brian Armstrong, Crypto Day + Thiel Fellows
20VC Insight
O'Driscoll: Mega venture funds must win the top 5-6 power-law deals
“What it means is that the bigger your fund, the more imperative it is you have to be in those six deals, which explains why capital is so easy to raise for those companies. It all makes sense. It was great analysis. I'm not sure it points to everybody can do g…”
Rory O'Driscoll May 22, 2025 ▶ 33:22 Rippling vs. Deel Lawsuit: WTF Happens Now? The Future of the Late Stage Private Market · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
20VC Assertion Supported
O'Driscoll: University endowments fund $150M early-stage VCs, not $1B mega-funds
“Those are the LP of choice for the small early innovative funds. It's not a great trend because, you know, if you're raising a billion, you've long since stopped talking to Harvard in a meaningful way. You're actually talking to pick your sovereign wealth fund…”
Rory O'Driscoll May 8, 2025 ▶ 46:44 Benchmark vs a16z: Why Stage Specific Firms Win · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
TBPN Insight
Lessin: Secondary fund buyers only price winners and treat the rest as worthless
“If someone's buying a fund from you, They're really only buying the winners and the rest is bullshit, right? And like, so in an ideal world, they just carve out the pieces they want. Like, I want this position and this position and this position because I care…”
Sam Lessin Apr 26, 2025 ▶ 13:48 Is Venture Capital Broken? | Sam Lessin on TBPN
TBPN Assertion Not checkable as stated
Kohli says AngelList venture fund capital flows nearly doubled in Q1 2025
“Within our data, we're actually seeing capital flows increase Q one, 20, 41, 25 by almost a double. And into just venture funds. And like we talked about SPBs and all of that, but like just venture funds alone, capital flows are almost, have almost doubled.”
Avlok Kohli Apr 9, 2025 ▶ 11:11 Why LPs Are Using STABLECOINS to INVEST in Startups | Avlok Kohli on TBPN April 4th
20VC Assertion Supported
Green: VC Fund Count Rose Despite Lengthening Exit Timelines
“It's actually shocking that like, that the number of venture funds over the last like five or seven years has actually increased given that the exits are getting longer, not shorter.”
Mitchell Green Mar 26, 2025 ▶ 27:50 Mitchell Green, Founder @ Lead Edge Capital: Why Traditional VC is Broken · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
BIGDEAL Insight
Nagpal: 2-and-20 VC structures guarantee managers 20% in cumulative fees over 10 years
“What people don't understand is it's actually closer to 20 and 20. It's one of the best kept secrets because venture funds charge those fees for 10 years. So if you raise a hundred million dollars, The investor makes twenty million bucks, maybe even 25, regard…”
Ankur Nagpal Mar 19, 2025 ▶ 15:54 $250 Million Founder: What I Did Wrong & How To BUILD BIG | Ankur Nagpal
THE PITCH Opinion
Hudson: People have launched VC funds with far weaker value propositions
“I can tell you people have started venture funds with way weaker value propositions than what you've outlined. It's a good idea.”
Charles Hudson Mar 4, 2025 ▶ 14:16 #101 Josh Pitches The Pitch
TBPN Assertion Supported
Hayes: Many Chinese VC Funds Require Founders to Sign Personal Guarantees
“In China, a lot of the venture funds are state funded and the founders have to sign like a full personal guarantee. So if you raise five million dollars and your company doesn't work out, they're going to take your house to like repay it.”
Jordi Hays Jan 18, 2025 ▶ 1:13:29 The END of TikTok?
Vollset: Early-stage check writing skill does not translate to later-stage investing
“Just because you're good at writing 250,000 dollar checks does not mean you're good at writing five million dollar checks into later stage companies. And your competition might be different, and your deal flow might be different, and your pricing power might n…”
Einar Vollset Jan 14, 2025 ▶ 37:17 Episode 748 | The Ins and Outs of Startup Investing
20VC Insight
Maples: Fund size dictates VC strategy due to power law math
“Your fund size is your strategy, and I guess I'm kind of famous for saying that for a long time. I don't know if I've ever really expressed why that is, so here's why. The power law is real, and so people don't realize that Pareto is not just eighty-twenty, it…”
Mike Maples Jan 6, 2025 ▶ 2:19 Mike Maples: Three Frameworks to Evaluate Startups and Founders | E1242 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
MORE OR LESS Prediction Not checkable as stated
Sam Lessin: Non-serious venture funds will fail to raise in 2025
“And I think next year, no one, if you're not a serious fund, you're not gonna raise capital.”
Sam Lessin Dec 20, 2024 ▶ 21:19 #78: 2024 Tech Company of the Year + 2025 Predictions · More or Less Podcast
TBPN Insight
Venture funds are the ultimate price discrimination tool for media brands
“I mean, a venture fund is the, is like the best way to price discriminate in, in an audience of founders because the higher value the founder, the more money you make when you invest.”
John Coogan Dec 12, 2024 ▶ 8:34 Billionaires XMAS list (ep21)
TBPN Assertion Contradicted
Hays: The average crypto fund has outperformed top 20% VC funds
“Historically, The average crypto fund has outperformed the average venture fund, or basically, no, the average crypto fund has outperformed, like, the top 20% venture fund.”
Jordi Hays Dec 11, 2024 ▶ 1:39:45 How we became the fastest growing podcast (ep20)
20VC Assertion Partly supported
Bookman: Venture funds take 15 to 20 years to distribute cash
“People think these companies take like five, seven, nine, 10 years. Not true. They take like 15 to 20. That means your venture fund takes 15 to 20 years to distribute the money.”
Zachary Bookman Dec 6, 2024 ▶ 0:06 Zachary Bookman: Why Valuations and Fundraising are BS | E1235 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
TBPN Insight
Hays: Working at mid-tier VC funds or family offices is a dead end
“The death zone is working at a mid fund or a family office and not being able to do a lot of deals because then you're not building up the brand value of working at a great firm and you're just not doing enough volume of deals so that you can build up a track …”
Jordi Hays Nov 19, 2024 ▶ 1:21:26 Who's Getting Rich Off Ozempic? (e12)
TBPN Insight
Hays: Branding a VC fund around a specific industry is self-destructive
“I think that you're, it's okay as a VC to position yourself as an expert in a certain sector, but branding your venture fund as a specific industry is, is almost like committing seppuku because They're just simple. Almost always is not quite enough opportuniti…”
Jordi Hays Nov 15, 2024 ▶ 1:26:52 Fact-Checking The Information (ep10)
20VC Opinion
Goldberg: LPs are frustrated legacy VC funds became asset managers
“Some of the venture funds that they had invested in 10 years ago, 20 years ago, they felt like had become asset managers. And the idea of being able to invest in a pure play venture fund that had experience, but also a lot of hustle was something that we think…”
Mark Goldberg Oct 25, 2024 ▶ 24:02 Mark Goldberg: Why Politics is Rife & Decision-Making is Broken in Large VCs | E1219 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
SOURCERY Assertion Supported
Data shows only 17% of venture capital funds survive to Fund IV
“At least like the data I've seen is only 17% of venture funds make it to fund four.”
Jeff Morris Jr. Oct 16, 2024 ▶ 23:09 Inside VC’s Existential Crisis: Jeff Morris Jr. on Surviving & Winning · Sourcery with Molly O'Shea
TBPN Insight
Hays: VC marketing should focus exclusively on founders and LPs
“As a venture fund, all of your marketing should be towards founders, which is one customer, and then, you know LPs, which is your other customer.”
Jordi Hays Oct 14, 2024 ▶ 51:06 The "Switzerland of AI" is Crazy (ep3)
Modern high-impact philanthropy requires multi-entity conglomerate structures
“Which is instead of thinking about a foundation as a single grant giving organization, they built a conglomerate. And the conglomerate contains a grant giving foundation, typically called a private foundation, a private operating foundation, which is also a fi…”
Adam Miller Jun 14, 2024 ▶ 1:11:14 From the brink of closure to a $5.2 billion sale (with Cornerstone's Adam Miller) | Masters of Scale
20VC Insight
Lemkin: Individual Investors Should Never Invest in VC Funds
“This is why I tell almost every individual do not invest in venture funds. It's dumb for individuals.”
Jason Lemkin Jun 3, 2024 ▶ 35:14 Jason Lemkin: PluralSight S*** the Bed & The Next IPO Candidates | E1160 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Greg Isenberg: Founders Should Prioritize Cash Flow Over VC Valuations
“Cash flow over valuation any day of the week. What I mean by that is, who cares if a venture fund is going to say your business is worth a billion dollars? It feels nice. But building cash flowing businesses is ultimately a huge reward from a financial standpo…”
Greg Isenberg Feb 9, 2024 ▶ 13:36 50 Realizations That Changed My Life
SOURCERY Prediction Partly held up
Oltmann: VC deployment, late-stage check sizes, and deal volume will surge in H2 2024
“And then the second half of this year I think we're going to see a significant increase in just dollars deployed from venture funds. That's also going to be on, you know, individual check sizes, I think are going to go up again in the later stages. And then al…”
Xander Oltmann Feb 1, 2024 ▶ 22:37 Xander Oltmann, Commodity Capital: Downfall of SaaS & Uprising of Vertically Integrated Monopolies · Sourcery with Molly O'Shea
20VC Prediction Not checkable as stated
Akkina: MITIMCo will scale out of VC funds that become too large
“If a firm gets too big and we're no longer confident that we can make exceptional returns over time, we're going to have to scale out.”
Ryan Akkina Jan 29, 2024 ▶ 52:40 Ryan Akkina: How MIT Builds Their Venture Fund Portfolio & How MIT Approach Direct Investing | E1109 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
20VC Disclosure
Rabois: Avoided launching a solo fund due to administrative drag coefficient
“Over the years, and I'd say over the fifteen-year time horizon, the last 15 years of my life, I have occasionally thought about, should I start a fund? There's definitely a lot of drag coefficient associated with that that I was not particularly excited with, …”
Keith Rabois Jan 12, 2024 ▶ 49:24 Keith Rabois on Rejoining Khosla Ventures | E1102 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Marshall: Public markets drive most institutional returns for the first seven years
“I would say at the early stages, having really strong public equity and hedge fund, Expertise is really important because that's where most of the assets are going to live. You can dream about getting into venture funds and buyout funds and all of that, but mo…”
Ana Marshall Jan 8, 2024 ▶ 20:07 Ana Marshall – The Climb to Investment Excellence (EP.360)
Ou: GroveStreet backs 10-15 venture and 6-8 buyout funds yearly
“So on average, we're averaging about 10 to 15 venture funds per year. And six to eight buyout funds per year.”
Bruce Ou Oct 30, 2023 ▶ 33:14 Bruce Ou – Private Market Investing at GroveStreet (EP.347)
20VC Assertion Not checkable as stated
Clarkson: LPs face liquidity strains from pulling forward future budgets
“A lot of LPs also pre-spent future budgets, if that makes any sense. If you were raising a fund every 18 months, and I thought you were raising every three years, I had two choices. Either I pull from future year budgets, or I reduce my check so that I stay co…”
Beezer Clarkson Oct 18, 2023 ▶ 7:49 Beezer Clarkson: Are LPs Open for Business & Why Do LP Incentive Mechanisms Need to Change? | E1073 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
20VC Assertion Supported
Clarkson: Only 17% of venture funds successfully reach Fund IV
“What was also sort of heartbreaking was the fund one to fund four on average, again, these are averages, some years are better, some years are worse, is 17%.”
Beezer Clarkson Oct 18, 2023 ▶ 54:48 Beezer Clarkson: Are LPs Open for Business & Why Do LP Incentive Mechanisms Need to Change? | E1073 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Muthiah: Indian venture capital is evolving toward US-style founder-led funds
“There's been really good evolution in the type of manager in India, in venture, which looks like the U.S. A lot now in terms of the type of person who finds themselves with a venture fund, and it used to be investment bankers, a transaction experience, and it …”
Muthu Muthiah Sep 18, 2023 ▶ 32:23 Muthu Muthiah - Inefficiency and Innovation at CHOA (EP. 339)
Sam Lessin: A fund backing only five-day in-person startups would outperform
“I bet that there'd be an appetite right now for a venture fund called six day a week or five day a week in person. And it only funds companies that are in person with an in-person pledge five days a week. Like I actually think they would outperform.”
Sam Lessin Aug 25, 2023 ▶ 16:01 #11: Why hybrid work doesn’t work, long live the phone call · More or Less Podcast
20VC Insight
Lemkin: A $500M fund needs $30B in exit market cap to succeed
“And so, so that means you need a three billion of exits, right? Gross. So that means you need thirty billion of market cap to make that fund work. If you have 10% real ownership, thirty billion of market cap.”
Jason Lemkin Aug 9, 2023 ▶ 46:48 Jason Lemkin: Every VC has a FRAUD in their portfolio; The IPO market is about to EXPLODE | E1046 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
20VC Assertion Not checkable as stated
Kohli: Individual LP commitments to venture funds fell 60% year-over-year
“When you compare it to venture funds the, and venture funds are the traditional structure and we have a pretty large venture fund business. Individuals are actually down 60% from like when we compare it to about a year ago.”
Avlok Kohli May 9, 2023 ▶ 19:16 How Dire is the Startup Funding Market Today? | AngelList CEO Avlok Kohli · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
20VC Assertion Not checkable as stated
Individual LP commitments to venture funds plummeted 60% year-over-year
“Individuals are actually down 60% from like when we compare it to about a year ago.”
Avlok Kohli Apr 25, 2023 ▶ 26:43 AngelList CEO Avlok Kohli: The Funding Market Today; Last-Mile Delivery; Competing w/ Carta | E1005 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
20VC Prediction Not checkable as stated
Stebbings: Low DPI Will Drive VC-Founder Misalignment Over Exits
“I think around liquidity is probably the biggest whereby, especially I think in the next years it'll be really prominent, which is whereby you have a venture funds with not a lot of DPI. And they know that they need DPI more than ever to raise their next funds…”
Harry Stebbings Apr 7, 2023 ▶ 40:38 Rob Lacher: How I Scaled to $600M AUM; Hiring Tips for VCs; Venture Capital in Europe vs USA | E999 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
20VC Prediction Held up
Loverro: LPs will refuse to commit to fast-deploying venture funds
“Unfortunately, I think that is gonna be the comeuppance that a bunch of funds suffer. LPs are gonna say no.”
Tom Loverro Feb 13, 2023 ▶ 17:45 Tom Loverro: The Ultimate Startup Survival Guide for 2023 | 20VC #977 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
20VC Disclosure
Stebbings: VC funds are failing to proactively mark down valuations
“I'm an LP in funds they're not marking their books down very much and very reactively, Tom.”
Harry Stebbings Feb 13, 2023 ▶ 18:52 Tom Loverro: The Ultimate Startup Survival Guide for 2023 | 20VC #977 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
ALL-IN Assertion Supported
Friedberg: Institutional LPs are making significantly fewer new venture commitments in 2023
“Institutional investors, endowments, pension funds, traditional family office LPs and venture funds are Making far fewer commitments this year to new funds, as I think we all know, and that tightening will play out in the venture funds that'll get raised for t…”
David Friedberg Feb 4, 2023 ▶ 22:34 E114: Markets update: whipsaw macro picture, big tech, startup mass extinction event, VC reckoning
20VC Opinion
Harrison: Over 80% of venture capital funds are substandard
“Probably 80% plus of venture funds are not great.”
Kyle Harrison Oct 21, 2022 ▶ 13:59 Kyle Harrison: Why 75% of Active Investors Will Disappear in the Next Few Years | 20VC #940 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
20VC Prediction Not checkable as stated
Harrison: Venture fund economic models will crumble under market pressures
“Like there are economic models that are going to crumble under the pressure of the market that we're going into now.”
Kyle Harrison Oct 21, 2022 ▶ 15:06 Kyle Harrison: Why 75% of Active Investors Will Disappear in the Next Few Years | 20VC #940 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
SAASTR Assertion Supported
Lee: LPs Have Put on the Brakes for Venture Funds Raising
“Investors, LPs in venture funds have basically put on the brakes. And so any fund that is trying to raise right now is having a pretty hard time for the most part.”
Aileen Lee Sep 15, 2022 ▶ 22:08 VC State of the Market with SaaStr CEO Jason Lemkin and Cowboy Ventures Founder & MP Aileen Lee

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