Bruce Ou
Managing Partner, GroveStreet · 1 appearance on the record.
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He leads fund and direct investments across venture capital, growth equity, and buyouts for GroveStreet's institutional clients. Prior to joining GroveStreet in 2007, he focused on M&A, corporate finance, and strategy consulting at Monitor Group.
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Ou: Top-quartile sub-$1B buyout funds outperform top-quartile mega-funds
“The medium return of funds, let's say it's sub one billion is quite similar to the medium returns of funds, five billion above observable from the industry data, but the top 10, 20% performers in the sub one billion category generates meaningfully higher retur…”
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Ou: Top-quartile sub-$1B buyout funds outperform top-quartile mega-funds
“The medium return of funds, let's say it's sub one billion is quite similar to the medium returns of funds, five billion above observable from the industry data, but the top 10, 20% performers in the sub one billion category generates meaningfully higher retur…”
Ou: China investment risks are priced in via depressed private market valuations
“So I would say today the risk associated with China investments in general are very reflected in the price premiums in terms of asset valuation or lack of bid for any assets in the private markets, for example.”
Ou: High idiosyncratic risk makes venture co-investing revert to average returns
“We have not really done much in the venture side at all. It requires a very deliberate different strategy to do venture co-invest in our opinion. Idiosyncratic risk is far greater than buyouts, and therefore you have to approach it with a diversified enough of…”
Ou: Most investors fail to rethink portfolio construction for the next decade
“Rethinking how you deploy and what portfolio you built for the next decade is something I don't think a lot of investors are doing.”
Ou: 2023 industry exit values are tracking 56% in buyouts and 17% in VC
“Private equity is tracking about 56% for buyouts compared to our 90% and ventures tracking, I think, 17 ish percent from memory to the 37% we have.”
Ou: Operationally intensive buyout teams use less initial leverage
“It is usually the case that an operational intensive team tends to use also less leverage at the beginning. So if we see a team that tends to use a higher leverage at the beginning, that is a bit of a warning signal to us, because if you are trying to really i…”
Ou: GroveStreet invests in first-time funds, never first-time investors
“Now, even for fund ones, we would never invest in first time investors. As we'd say, we'd invest in first time funds, but not first time investors. There's need to be teams that have demonstrated track records in their prior Pretty fun careers, whether spin ou…”
Ou: Fund size overexpansion degrades a manager's risk-return profile
“If a amazing fund that should be raising one billion ends up raising two billion because investors pile in, the risk return profile may have changed. That they're not as compelling anymore.”
Ou: Allocators must avoid over-attachment to specific manager opportunities
“And one of the lessons I have learned by observing broadly is that there are always amazing opportunities, and we don't need to get too attached to any opportunity. Just wait for the fat pitch.”
Ou: The 2021 venture boom was a repeat of 2000
“In the extreme sort of years, like, twenty-twenty-one, it was easier to call that, wow, this is a repeat of a movie from 2000, and we shouldn't be reaching for dessert.”
Ou: Generative AI is driving a resurgence of investor FOMO
“And so just as we are feeling better about the music quiet down, there's a new DJ entering the house in the name of generative AI. And so one risk I see is the investor FOMO behavior again.”
Ou: Cloud adoption is only in its mid-innings of penetration
“Cloud adoption, as mundane as it may sound now, having been a decade in the running, is really in the mid-innings in terms of penetration.”
Ou: GroveStreet nets co-investment performance together with primary fund performance
“We construct our co-invest as organic parts of a SMA, meaning the co-invest performance is netted and pulled together with the fund performance in determining our net performance, something different from industry practice.”
Ou: GroveStreet buyout co-investments target 3-4x leverage at entry
“The capital structure dynamics is also, I would say, more consistent than different. They tend to be anywhere between three to four times in leverage and entry. So when we see a deal that's four and a half times or more, we tend to raise our eyebrows.”
Ou: Basic software installs are table stakes for buyout portfolio transformation
“So I'm not talking about just putting in a new CRM or a new accounting software system, new financial dashboards. I mean, that's table stake, right? These are very foundational level transformations.”
Ou: GroveStreet buys concentrated secondaries for primary-like multiples, not IRR
“We approached it with a opportunistic, high selectivity strategy. So where we, let's say, have a mature venture fund where the value drivers is comes down to two or three companies that we know intimately and can form good opinions that are different from the …”
Ou: Selective secondary opportunities should become easier to find but haven't yet
“In this market, I think we would expect that those opportunities could be a little bit easier to find, but they're not quite showing up yet.”
Ou: GroveStreet Has Managed $10B Across 43 SMAs and 14 Clients
“14 is the number of clients that we have had since inception. 14 great, elite clients. For them, we have built 43 separately managed accounts. So you can do the math, lots of repeat customers. And in total, the clients have committed about ten billion dollars …”
Ou: GroveStreet backed American Industrial Partners at $400M before client handoff
“We first invested in a fund here in New York called American Industrial Partners when they were owning four hundred million dollars. As the team continued to deliver results and became a consensus fund among LPs, we handed that relationship over to our clients…”
Ou: GroveStreet targets VC, growth equity, and sub-$1.5B buyout funds
“Our targets have remained quite consistent over the 25 years, and those are venture capital, growth equity, and lower mid-market buyouts, which we typically define as funds sub one and a half billion dollars, and we do them through commitments to funds and co-…”
Ou: GroveStreet targets 80% IT and 60-70% US in venture portfolios
“And in venture, we're typically targeting, I'd say, 80% in information tech, and the rest in healthcare and biotech, and then 60, 70% the U.S., and the rest in proven parts of venture centers around the world.”
Ou: GroveStreet backs 10-15 venture and 6-8 buyout funds yearly
“So on average, we're averaging about 10 to 15 venture funds per year. And six to eight buyout funds per year.”
Appearances (1)
| Episode | Date | Speaking time |
|---|---|---|
| Bruce Ou – Private Market Investing at GroveStreet (EP.347) | Oct 30, 2023 | 40m |