Einar Vollset
Managing Partner, Discretion Capital · 19 appearances on the record.
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Einar Vollset is an early-stage SaaS investor and M&A advisor who co-founded the accelerator fund TinySeed and founded Discretion Capital. A former computer science professor at Cornell University and Y Combinator alumnus, he is the author of The Definitive Guide to M&A for B2B SaaS between $2 and $20 million ARR.
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Everything Einar Vollset said on Startups For the Rest of Us that made the record, most notable first. Filter by type, assessment or year in the ledger →
Vollset predicts Anthropic will inevitably add advertisements to Claude
“Not only are they going to do it, but so is Claude. I guarantee it. You know, they might figure out something clever and do the thing, but like, there's no, there's just not a universe unless Claude get bought by Apple or something. That, that Claude aren't go…”
Vollset: Windsurf Deal Was a Massive Founder Payday Structured to Screw Employees
“The original deal, which was like a successful, holy crap, that's a big number deal was three billion. The Google aqua hire is 2.4. That's ballpark same number. So like, you got screwed as if this was a soft landing for the founders, but it was a massive payda…”
Vollset: Media Outrage Over Twitter Stems From Journalists Losing Privileged Status
“My honest to God view on this, and it may be deeply cynical, is that I think what has happened, the reason why there's so much heat and so much drama around this is because Two journalists, Twitter's very, very important, and they had a very special status und…”
Vollset: Public SaaS companies report zero AI disruption and no added churn
“Most of the like public SaaS companies are reporting, like, you know, they're coming like, we're not seeing any disruption whatsoever from AI, no additional churn, but in the public markets, the sky is falling.”
Vollset: SaaS founders frequently leave 60% to 80% of exit value behind
“It's not unusual that I hear about situations where I'm like, okay, well, yeah, but you left like you left like 60 or 70 or 80% of the value of the company on the table because you didn't know what was going on here. Like you didn't understand like the univers…”
Vollset: VCs only care about unsolicited, high-priced strategic acquisitions
“The only kind of M&A that I am interested in as an adventure capitalist is if a strategic comes to you and begs to buy it and is gaga for it and will pay a crazy price. That is the only kind of M&A venture capitalist will care about”
Vollset: Break-even SaaS with teams are worth more than solo-founder profitable SaaS
“So it's much more valuable to you as an acquirer if those two founders have sat down and actually put like a team in place and like made themselves a little bit of a less of a key person risk for the acquirer. And that's why like it's, yeah, you might've been …”
Vollset: Apple can win consumer AI interface without owning frontier models
“And I feel like that's actually where Apple could come in, and without, even without necessarily owning, like, a fantastic foundation model, Could come in and just be like the interface by which normal people interact with AI day in and day out. For sure, I th…”
Vollset: Autonomous AI agents cannot be truly useful without major security trade-offs
“You're almost never gonna get, like, a hundred percent security, because it's not helpful, unless it sees what I see. And if it doesn't see what I see, then it's just like, yeah, ok, like, can you do some web research for me? I'm like, yeah, that's, So can cha…”
Vollset: LLM Capability Gains Are Approaching an Asymptote
“The data shows which it's really reaching, looks to be reaching some kind of asymptote. Like this asymptote can be very high, but It's still, to me, it seems like each new model that comes out, whether it's from ChatGPT or Google or Grok or whatever, it seems …”
Vollset: Linear AI Capability Increases Require Exponential Compute Growth
“As you make a, like another step in capability, like the amount of compute, compute that you need to add, to make it smarter, as it were, just grows exponentially. So you get like a linear increase in capability with an exponential growth in compute. And that …”
Vollset: Vertical SaaS can match frontier LLMs with fine-tuned open-source models
“If it becomes so expensive that, you know, your model doesn't work, well then given the specialization you're in, and particularly if it's something like a very specialized vertical SaaS thing that you're doing, okay, you can probably get as good, if not good …”
Vollset: Low-valuation $75M exits yield identical 40x returns to $1B unicorns
“If you're B to B SaaS and as an investor, you can put money in that a couple of million and then they sell for 50 to a hundred million dollars. That's as good. Like, it doesn't matter to you. If you get 40 X your money, what do you care? Whether it, 40 exit me…”
Volset: Selling a SaaS at 5x ARR equals 15 years of dividends
“So tip, it's not unusual for a pretty well-run profitable scale, you know, at scale SaaS business to be doing thirty-ish percent free cash flow that could be kicked out of dividends. Now, if you do the math on that, if that same business is growing well enough…”
ChatGPT is a bigger shift than the iPhone, rivaling the internet
“And particularly with ChatGPT, it became very evident to me that this was like probably one of the bigger shifts in terms of a technical capability that would impact startups.
[189] Einar Volset: I think at the very least, the biggest comparative change that I…”
Dismissing AI as an NFT-like hype cycle is fundamentally wrong
“It's completely the wrong approach to think that this is just NFTs and stick your head in the sand. Like that is fundamentally wrong. Like I'll take an argument with anybody who thinks that.”
Einar Vollset says ChatGPT could genuinely hurt Google's search business.
“It's genuinely one of the first things I've seen. I've been like, truly, this could hurt Google, like, you know, not immediately, but something like that really could.”
Einar Vollset predicts AI will hit a trough in 18 months.
“It's probably overhyped at the moment. It usually tends to be, there'll be like a trough of sorrow in like, 18 months when everything is in the crapper. But I think like two, three years from now, we'll look back and we'll be like, oh yeah, this underlying tec…”
Vollset: AI startups cannot build moats without proprietary models or data
“I think it'll be hard to have a competitive moat if you don't have your own language, if you don't have your own training sets, if you don't have your own model. I think that would be true.”
Vollset: Pre-revenue VC funding effectively eliminates $20M to $50M exit optionality
“Like you can raise with just an idea or a deck or just a It's a team or whatever, but then the vision has to be big, and that does usually exclude you or preclude you from actually doing the kind of exit where like at 20 or fifty million bucks, because just th…”
Vollset: Early-stage startup success is almost impossible for investors to predict
“I think a lot of the time, I think just think as early stage investors, it's despite what some investors will tell you, I think it's almost impossible to really, really have a good sense of like, what's going to really Work. There's just a lot of randomness an…”
Vollset: Pre-launch YC companies raise at $12M to $20M pre-money
“Last I heard now, pre-product launch on demo day, it's like 12 to twenty million pre.”
Vollset: Early-stage funds cannot allow equity buybacks due to portfolio math
“Given how early we invest, and so Indy usually invested later than us, given how early we invest, you just kind of need to be an equity investor, and you need to sort of allow, basically to not allow founders to buy back equity. And, you know, we get, as you g…”
The other half of the tape: Einar Vollset's own voice is left out of every number here. Other people bring the name up 149 times in 70 episodes on Startups For the Rest of Us. 2 statements on the record name them. every mention, with the transcript →
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Statements about Einar Vollset, by other people (2)
Walling: SaaS data analysis confirms app returns follow power laws
“Anar did analysis of a bunch of SaaS apps. He got a bunch of anonymized data, and he looked backwards over the last five years. And if you do look at returns, it was not winner-take-all, but it was definitely a power law. And power law just means there are a s…”
Walling: TinySeed explored and rejected launching an RBF debt fund
“Einar and I at one point, this is six, seven years ago, talked about should we raise a debt fund, right, and have Tiny Seed Capital. I don't know what we call it, but whatever, you know, you get the idea. Tiny Seed RBF. And when we looked at the amount that we…”
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- Episode 718 | When to Give Up, Open Source Competition, Painful F...
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- Episode 737 | Key Takeaways from MicroConf Europe 2024 (With Derr...
- Episode 742 | Normalizing Hard Things, Facing Your Biggest Threat...
- Episode 739 | Selling SaaS to Customers Who Don't Know They Have...
- Episode 720 | How to Prioritize Your Focus (In Both Your Startup...
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2023 23 mentions in 11 episodes 2 per episode
- Episode 647.5 | Bonus Episode: TinySeed Application Q&A Livestrea...
- Episode 684 | Key Takeaways from MicroConf Europe 2023
- Episode 666 | Entering a Competitive Market, Books for SaaS Found...
- Episode 693 | Building a Mid-Six-Figure SaaS in Less Than 3 Years
- Episode 690 | When Opt-in Email Could Be Spam, Collecting Custome...
- Episode 681 | Why Launching a Second Product is Usually a Bad Ide...
- Episode 662 | Selling for Five Years of Runway, Profit vs. Revenu...
- Episode 692 | Learn the Rules Like a Pro So You Can Break Them Li...
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2022 9 mentions in 2 episodes 5 per episode
2021 40 mentions in 20 episodes 2 per episode
- Episode 562.5 | TinySeed Fall 2021 SaaS Accelerator Application Info Session
- Episode 542 | 10x in Two Years, Past $3M ARR with SquadCast
- 553: Stack Overflow and Moz Acquired, Quitting Instead of Giving Up Remote Work, and More
- Episode 561 | Launching on Product Hunt and DIY vs. DFY
- Episode 539 | Post-Exit Life, Writing Six Books, and Brewing Beer with Dan Norris
- Episode 531 | How a Non-Technical Founder Grew Past $20k MRR
- Episode 568 | MailChimp Sells for $12 billion
- Episode 566 | From Bootstrapped to Venture Backed with Hana Mohan
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2020 24 mentions in 12 episodes 2 per episode
- TinySeed Tales Season 2 | Episode 8: Upmarket Starts to Pay Of
- Episode 504 | 15 Tools We Use to Run Our Business
- Episode 522 | Hewitt - Where Are They Now?
- Episode 517 | Married Co-founders Who Turned a Free Tool Into a Fast-Growing SaaS Product
- Episode 523 | Breaking Through Plateaus, Entrepreneurship for Kids, Common Bootstrapper
- TinySeed Tales Season 2 | Episode 3: Is This All Worth It?
- Episode 516 | When to Re-write Your SaaS Codebase
- Episode 515 | Finding a Co-Founder, Getting Better at Sales, and More Listener Questions
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