Ana Marshall
4 appearances on the record.
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Marshall: Foundations cannot use credit lines to buy market dislocations
“Many of us have credit lines in place to be able to fund the granting parts of the organizations, but you can't use credit lines to lean into a dislocation. For lots of tax reasons. If you think a dislocation is coming, you need to have cash to be able to even…”
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Everything Ana Marshall said on Capital Allocators that made the record, most notable first. Filter by type, assessment or year in the ledger →
Marshall: Public markets drive most institutional returns for the first seven years
“I would say at the early stages, having really strong public equity and hedge fund, Expertise is really important because that's where most of the assets are going to live. You can dream about getting into venture funds and buyout funds and all of that, but mo…”
Marshall: Volatility is the only observable risk; others resist vector math
“The only risk that can be observed is volatility, but I'm managing seven other ones, and we've tried to do it with vector math. You can't.”
Marshall: Believing deals work at any valuation is investors' worst lesson
“This whole concept of the math works for any deal at any valuation because the cost of capital is near zero. I think that is probably the most pernicious thing that was learned by a generation of investors.”
Marshall: Private market inflows completely obliterated the illiquidity premium
“The fact that illiquidity premium had been completely obliterated as more and more money poured into private markets.”
Marshall: Private equity managers must halt deals and focus on operations
“I'm a big believer that the people who we trust with our capital need to be pencils down and really working with the portfolio companies. We have had five to seven years of Massive amounts of capital going into buying private firms and taking companies private…”
Marshall: Halting fund commitments due to NAV limits is a major mistake
“Because I think not being able to commit because you are already over your NAV is actually a really big mistake, because some of the best funds are actually invested during down years, and so you don't want to miss those years.”
Marshall: US investors will struggle to profit from Chinese state-sponsored winners
“And great global companies were created, and I think more global companies will be created in sectors that the government really wants to sponsor. I think it will become ever more challenging for us to be able to benefit from that.”
Marshall: Scope 1–3 emissions compliance costs are projected to exceed Sarbanes-Oxley
“It's going to be complicated, and the estimated cost of compliance for scope one, scope two, and scope three is expected to exceed Sarbanes-Oxley.”
Marshall: Artificially high private NAVs are causing institutions to overspend budgets
“I would say my basket of worries, number one, is that our NAVs don't really reflect what's the reality of the situation is, and I understand the reasons why the buyout and venture and all the private firms, they're being careful with the marks. But all of the …”
Marshall: Hewlett exited long/short equity over paying 2-and-20 for beta
“What we decided is we can short cheaper than a hedge fund just based on our balance sheet if we ever wanted to. So why are we paying two and 20 to have somebody short beta for us? Why don't we just hire the best stock pickers on the planet? And then we can fig…”
Marshall: Foundations Need 70% Equity Risk to Meet 5% Mandate
“Because in a foundation, I have a mandated five percent payout. So I have to have at least 70% equity risk in this portfolio to be able to, on a long-term basis, Achieve the objective, which is to grow or maintain the real spending power of this institution.”
Marshall: Copying the Yale endowment model ignores differing institutional needs
“When pioneering portfolio management came out, it seemed like, okay, there's this mountain to climb. Everybody does it like Yale. And then over the course of the last 1520 years, we've had so much more money run into this endowment model, yet every institution…”
Marshall: Portfolio construction matters more than manager selection
“Manager selection is great, but portfolio construction is really where it matters.”
Marshall: Active investors must be 'clinically delusional' to think they will win
“The investment world, we have to all be clinically delusional to think that every morning we wake up and we're going to beat the market. Like, if you're a Publix market person, you wake up every morning thinking, I'm gonna beat the market, I'm gonna get myself…”
Marshall: The macroeconomic environment is returning to a 1990s normalized regime
“What we're really doing is going back to a world that existed starting in sort of 1991, 1992, through up into the crisis. So it was more of a normalized economy.”
Marshall: Lagging private market markdowns are paralyzing transaction activity
“The private markets have done what they do, which is they take forever to actually get reality checks. For the most part, the marks have been way slower and way less than I would have expected, even for this stage, given the increase in the cost of capital. So…”
Marshall: Funding private obligations without distributions will pressure public markets
“I mean, you still have institutional investors that, whether they reallocate back to fixed income, or they have to fund cash flows, or they have to fund private market capital calls without there being the benefit of distributions. I still think that hits your…”
Marshall: Oil reliance and corruption make India difficult for foreign manufacturers
“India, you know, oil continues to be the, you know, sort of their Achilles heel as far as their current account, and we're seeing the reserves come out, and it still is a market with a ton of corruption, and so it's from an ease of doing business for foreign m…”
Marshall: ESG improvement yields lower capital costs and higher exit multiples
“You will have a lower cost of capital, and you will have a higher exit multiple. So the incentive structure should be aligned to doing the right thing, not because it's the right thing, but because you're going to make more money.”
Marshall: Current ESG social scores mean little due to slow industry demographics
“What you really want in the S is to have more senior professionals, either people of color or women, but in many industries that will take decades. And so to give a score today, I don't know that it means much.”
Marshall: The fund boom massively expanded the universe of non-excellent managers
“There are very few really consistently excellent stock pickers. There are very few consistently excellent bond investors, just like in venture and just like in buyout. The last 15 years have massively expanded the universe of funds and firms. That weren't exce…”
Marshall: Fundamental analysis is insufficient without trading experience to understand risk
“Unless you knew how to trade the bonds and how people were really pricing risk, all of the analysis in the world wasn't going to help you get to the answer. You needed to understand pricing of risk, and the only way to do that was trading.”
Marshall: Corporate activist campaigns will not change Korean corporate governance systems
“And so the purpose of a corporation was different, very different in Korea than it is in the United States. And so you have to understand those nuances to understand that they will never, no matter how much Corporate raiders and campaigns are there. For the Ko…”
Marshall: US Equity Multiples Are Higher Due to Lighter Corporate Regulation
“So in the United States, especially in the last 30 years, it's been basically very light regulation, and the corporate sector gets to do a lot of things. Whereas in the rest of the world, that doesn't happen. And so you see, in some ways, that's why multiples …”
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Who brings them up most Luis Laboy 34Hank Sturmack 10
Statements about Ana Marshall, by other people (2)
Laboy: Hewlett separates evaluating macro opportunity sets from specific manager selection
“When we're selecting a manager, we break apart opportunity set and manager selection. The steps are, we gain conviction on the opportunity set. Because we run as one team, one approach, Once we have an idea of the opportunity set, like at Everest, we're lookin…”
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Appearances (4)
| Episode | Date | Speaking time |
|---|---|---|
| Ana Marshall – The Climb to Investment Excellence (EP.360) | Jan 8, 2024 | 34m |
| Dan Ivascyn – Fixed Income in the Limelight Again (Capital Allocators, EP.298) | Feb 20, 2023 | 3m |
| Ana Marshall – Preparing for the New Environment at Hewlett (Capital Allocators, EP. 288) | Dec 19, 2022 | 35m |
| Ana Marshall – Applied Direct Investing at the William and Flora Hewlett Foundation (Capit | Oct 21, 2019 | 37m |