Music

“Music had never really been fully democratized before AI.”

“In some ways, I think my relationship with music allowed me to never drink or take drugs because Listening to music for me is totally a psychedelic experience. I can feel the music, and I can be transported by the music.”

“Because gaming is bigger than movies, music, books combined.”

“People were making music For themselves. They're creating the music that then they will go listen to, which I think is super interesting. I can't really think of a behavior we've seen like that in any other format. Like people don't write for, you know, to rea…”

“Some people understand something better than other people because it comes the way the mind works. It doesn't mean that other people can't reach there.”

“So culture is such an important part of music that you don't just get a model that knows all the music we're ever going to make. Like our lived experiences are what informs the next genre of music. And that's why I'm so bullish on it.”

“She grew up as a musician, and then went into the field of design, so going back to that, you know, cross area, cross field, discipline connectivity, Like, I definitely think there's something to that.”

“Music is our largest and, you know, most important vertical, for example.”

“I think music and growth, they both rely on this just consistent repetition. Like you're constantly making mistakes. You have this super tight feedback loop. You have to get really resilient to just making mistakes all the time. And you know that the way of le…”

“We don't care about our music either.”

“I think a lot of music, the problem is that the music that the AI generates is it just feels very mid. You know, and definitionally, these things are averaging machines, and culture is supposed to be at the edge.”

“I'm hoping that audiobooks is a mainstream phenomenon as it is in Scandinavia, where, you know, it's almost as many people who listen to music listen to audiobooks.”

“For music, It's very different from text, and I think people will very sloppily look at the world of OpenAI and Anthropic and the hyperscalers and say audio is just a couple years behind, which it is, but that scale is gonna solve all these things. But unlike …”

“I think if you accomplish all those things and if you make music interactive and you make music engaging people will pay for it like they pay for video games.”

“Music in itself tends to be like sort of always like one of the first areas where you see Real impact of new technologies, whether, you know, Spotify or like iTunes or piracy or like all these things or gramophones going back.”

“I'm financially secure. I don't need to make another dollar from my music again.”

“But imagine maybe even 90% of music that's created is so either derivative or pop or one hit wonder. Like, it's just that, that's the stuff that's gonna be the biggest loser.”

“Today in, in, in, 24, gaming is the largest form of entertainment. Bigger than music and movies combined.”

“Speech just needs to be right. Just like read me this New York Times article. And if it's a tiny bit non-expressive or a tiny bit robotic, that'll still get the job done. And the real creativity was happening in a totally different part of audio, which is musi…”

“We try not to impose anything about music or audio in general into the model, and we kind of let the models learn things by themselves.”

“People are always surprised to learn that we don't only train on music.”

“So that, that random access, the ability to access anything that's ever been created instantly has huge value for music. Almost zero value, effectively zero value for books.”

“Restaurants are a multisensory experience, right? And many times, you know, the takeoff point for a restaurant could be music. So I would go to my architects, you know, and I would say, okay, This is like, you know, acid jazz. What kind of place would you want…”

“Film and TV, the sampling time with music is like three to four seconds. You're like, I kind of like this or not. Tilbury TV, like, you have to watch it in 20 minutes to something to figure out if you like it. You do that two times and you're done for the nigh…”

“Music, for some people, can really produce a heightened HRV effect, and, you know, Joe and I can talk with you later about some of the things that we did along with the breathing to maximize HRV in real time for specific performance states, but you have to fin…”

“Just by listening to a song, so consciously you're putting your body into a different level of stress than you would even realize. And then that may have an effect on a decision that you make 45 minutes later.”

“There is this distinction between AI music and real music that, that doesn't exist for sure. Very talented real musicians are using AI. To get better and to help create new ideas. So that distinction doesn't really exist. It's all going to be AI. The question …”

“Actually, what these models do is Because they, because they've been listening to a lot of music, they are very good at doing something that sounds very similar to what already exists. Actually being original is very hard. And from one point of view, as it now…”

“We talked about it mostly for music, music discovery, but the same problem, it's the same problem and even harder for podcasts. So we're still focused very heavily on helping spot, on helping podcast creators find more audience. This is, like I said, it's even…”

“I think the biggest innovation clearly in the last six, seven years has been TikTok who found like a new format of using music for something completely different.”

“Business is cool, but like, God, sports and music just have this special thing, this special moment, these special feelings that you can't, there's nobody is that passionate about our podcast. Nobody is that passionate about this piece of software.”

“As David mentioned, it generates a hundred and forty eight billion dollars of revenue every year. It's bigger than music. It's bigger than the box office.”

“What I'm looking forward to is could an AI create a brand new genre of music that people find desirable, which is, it doesn't sound like anything Today, but it's just this breakthrough new genre. And so, in 10 years, I think we have a shot at doing that.”

“You know, you're driving to work, whatever. You can't be looking at a screen. So all audio is competing with is other audio or music, basically.”

“The interesting thing about music is that we're actually not competing as much as you think, and that's because music is complimentary.”

“Regardless of how old you are, at least on Spotify, people keep going back to the music that they came out during their high school, during their teenage years”

“I think composing, creating long form pieces, whether they're music or art, I think is, is something we want to do. And this hints at this idea of like, not just having these things that make sense at like, 20 seconds of music time, but actually say something …”

“The amount spent on games as an entertainment, it's actually bigger than movies worldwide, And it's certainly bigger than music.”

“The coherence of a piece of music, whether it's a four minute pop song, or a, you know, one hour, 15 minute requiem, has to do with, ah, recognizing elements again, and DNA.”

“There's actually an awful lot of form in music. It's like maths. It really is like maths. That's why a lot of mathematicians love music as well, because it's all about structures and forms and about relationships.”