Spreadsheets

topic on 15 shows · 23 statements across 18 episodes

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23 statements about Spreadsheets, every show

MAD Assertion Supported
Evans: Spreadsheets increased finance employment rather than causing job losses
“Spreadsheets did not result in a collapse in the number of people working in finance. They're quite the opposite. You have way more people in finance, because now it's possible to do all this more, all this new stuff that you couldn't have done before.”
Benedict Evans Mar 19, 2026 ▶ 31:35 Benedict Evans: OpenAI’s Moat Problem & the Future of Software
CHEEKY PINT Prediction Not checkable as stated
Collison: A dedicated UI for finance could emerge within 10 years
“I feel like there could be a product in the next 10 years for finance people, where in hindsight, it is obviously the correct UI, but just like the spreadsheet kind of came out of nowhere as a UI, it may feel like it came out of nowhere at that time.”
John Collison Nov 18, 2025 ▶ 39:18 Satya Nadella describes how lessons from Microsoft’s history apply to today’s boom
Nadella: Spreadsheets empower users to program without realizing it
“The other thing about the spreadsheet is it's Turing complete, right? I mean, that's the other, you know, we sort of don't give it enough credit. It's like, I can make it do everything. A hundred percent. I mean, it's kind of like, you know, and you get into i…”
Satya Nadella Nov 18, 2025 ▶ 40:25 Satya Nadella describes how lessons from Microsoft’s history apply to today’s boom
Ustinov: AI Replaces Static Spreadsheets by Dynamically Rebuilding Data Contexts
“Whatever columns you choose will stay there forever. But with AI, with full context of your research files, you can rebuild these things on the fly. And again, you're still responsible for everything, for any decisions, analysis, highlights, everything. But it…”
Seva Ustinov Nov 18, 2025 ▶ 16:54 He Manages $100M in Ad Spend With a Trick Nobody Tried Yet
BIG TECHNOLOGY Assertion Supported
AI remains weak at calculations without executing code in virtual machines
“And you know, more importantly right now, AI, we're in a world where, where AI is not good at calculating things yet. So generally you're having to spin up a virtual machine and run Python or something on there. To actually perform those spreadsheet calculatio…”
Zeb Evans Oct 10, 2025 ▶ 6:25 How Business Software Transforms In The Age Of AI — With Zeb Evans
Bertolini: Spreadsheets are the worst invention ever created for business
“The spreadsheet is the worst invention ever created for business, right? If you read the book, The Terrorism of Excel or something like that, I put in that book. But, you know, we've created a tool that allows us to manipulate numbers on the page to get the an…”
Mark Bertolini Aug 19, 2025 ▶ 59:13 The CEO Who Cheated Death, Slept an Hour a Night, and Built a Healthcare Empire · Invest Like The Best
Kirkos: The spreadsheet is the best UI for humans understanding data
“I think that the spreadsheet is the best interface for a human working with a computer to understand data.”
David Kirkos Jun 10, 2025 ▶ 20:15 Quadratic: The AI Spreadsheet
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Kirkos: AI agents will generate entire spreadsheets to answer user questions
“I do see these agents generating spreadsheets to answer people's questions, particularly when they focus around the user understanding data.”
David Kirkos Jun 10, 2025 ▶ 20:44 Quadratic: The AI Spreadsheet
NO PRIORS Opinion
Liu: Spreadsheets are the most prolific app building platform
“Everybody has used spreadsheets at this point. I mean, it's like the most prolific app building platform out there.”
Howie Liu Jul 25, 2024 ▶ 3:50 No Priors Ep. 73 | With Airtable co-founder and CEO Howie Liu
NO PRIORS Insight
Liu: Most spreadsheet use cases should actually be databases or apps
“And a lot of use cases of spreadsheets really should be databases or apps, right? Anytime you're dealing with something that's not like number crunching and instead is some kind of tabular data, a workflow, like a database like thing of customers, or it could …”
Howie Liu Jul 25, 2024 ▶ 5:22 No Priors Ep. 73 | With Airtable co-founder and CEO Howie Liu
Goldstein: Any Industry Workflow Relying on Spreadsheets Is a Startup Opportunity
“Anytime you have any industry anywhere in the world where somebody is using a spreadsheet, it should be like, you know, a light bulb going off. There's like, this is a startup opportunity. There's countless startups that started as spreadsheets or took process…”
Brett Goldstein Jul 1, 2024 ▶ 4:55 SaaS apps that will print profits
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Supply chain companies managed their entire profit margins in spreadsheets
“There was no software that could do that. And all these companies were using spreadsheets to manage what was becoming all of their profit.”
Andrew Butt Apr 1, 2024 ▶ 8:51 He raised $275M in the last 3 years. His 'boring' B2B startup is now a $1B unicorn. | Andrew Butt... · PMF Show
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Amin: The spreadsheet is the world's most popular programming environment
“We started playing with the metaphor of a spreadsheet because it was the world's most popular programming environment.”
Kareem Amin Jan 18, 2024 ▶ 5:00 A product-market-fit masterclass | Kareem Amin (Clay)
ANOTHER PODCAST Assertion Supported
Evans: Most Excel spreadsheets are just tables without formulas
“Old observation that most spreadsheets don't have any formula. Most people use Excel to make tables, not to make, not for financial calculations.”
Benedict Evans Oct 22, 2023 ▶ 17:54 Bundling/Unbundling AI
PRODUCT MARKET FIT Assertion Not checkable as stated
Camara: Entity management market is 50/50 spreadsheets and legacy software
“The market's like, 50, 50 brownfield and spreadsheets where, you know, brownfield is legacy, really old legacy stuff that you have to rip and replace, you know, out of the market.”
Adrian Camara Jan 16, 2023 ▶ 9:42 Adrian Camara, Founder of Athennian | How to do Customer Discovery · PMF Show
Hockenmaier: Half the value of a growth model is simply building it
“And it's typically built in a spreadsheet, which has a really nice feature of being very hard to fake. Like you can talk about a business conceptually. But when you actually have to get it to line up and link in a model, it's very hard to not force yourself to…”
Dan Hockenmaier Oct 9, 2022 ▶ 6:23 Developing a growth model + marketplace growth strategy | Dan Hockenmaier
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Spreadsheets and Clipboards Remain ServiceMax's Primary Competition
“It's actually not our competitors, right? It's a very, we have smaller competitors. Most of it is still manual processes. You put these guys and gals out in the field and they're using their spreadsheets or their clipboards to figure out how to solve an issue.”
Neil Brewer Jul 7, 2022 ▶ 17:45 ServiceMax Breaks $150m ARR, Kills 2021 SPAC, Growing 20-35% This Year Helping 400 Customers Schedule Technicians to do Physical Repairs
Wensing: Competing with spreadsheets is difficult because they are endlessly flexible
“The difficult thing about competing against a spreadsheet, and probably other products like that, is that a spreadsheet is just endlessly flexible. Right? There's nothing you can't do in a spreadsheet.”
Matt Wensing Sep 29, 2020 ▶ 16:12 Episode 516 | When to Re-write Your SaaS Codebase
Wensing: Founders struggle with spreadsheets but easily model their business descriptively
“What's nice about a model approach instead of a spreadsheet is, you set a founder in front of a spreadsheet and you say, put your business in here. And there's kind of an immediate thought of, okay, I need a revenue row, I guess, and I also need a, Expenses ro…”
Matt Wensing Sep 29, 2020 ▶ 32:06 Episode 516 | When to Re-write Your SaaS Codebase
20VC Assertion Supported
Chen: More white-collar jobs were created post-spreadsheet than in prior decades
“We've actually created more white collar jobs post the spreadsheet than we have in the decades before.”
Frank Chen Feb 25, 2019 ▶ 10:38 20VC: a16z Partner Frank Chen on The Future of Car Ownership, Whether The High Employee Attrition Rate in The Valley Is A Feature or A Bug & His Biggest Lessons From Netscape, Loudcloud & Opsware
MAD Assertion Not checkable as stated
Howie Liu: 90% of spreadsheets are used as makeshift databases
“90% of spreadsheets are not used for kind of their intended purpose of numerical analysis, but really, you know, they're used as a makeshift database.”
Howie Liu Apr 20, 2015 ▶ 3:27 Howie Liu, Airtable // Founding Airtable (Hosted by FirstMark Capital)
MAD Insight
Steier: Data volume limits drove the split between spreadsheets and databases
“So the reason why you switched from spreadsheets to databases, which is a completely different kind of thing, right, is because of spreadsheets couldn't handle the larger amounts.”
Sandy Steier Mar 3, 2014 ▶ 11:34 Sandy Steier, 1010data // Data Driven NYC 24 // February 2014 (Hosted by FirstMark Capital)
MAD What-if
Steier: Modern data warehouses wouldn't exist if 1980s spreadsheets handled big data
“If in the early eighties, You know, if we could go back and go into a time machine and deliver to the past a spreadsheet that worked on unlimited amounts of data, would things have happened the way they happened? You know, yes, somehow data governance would ha…”
Sandy Steier Mar 3, 2014 ▶ 12:32 Sandy Steier, 1010data // Data Driven NYC 24 // February 2014 (Hosted by FirstMark Capital)

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