Growth

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Antos: Startups cannot increment their way out of slow growth
“You cannot increment your way out of Like slow growth, right? It's usually something to do with the market structurally, like you have some kind of a problem. So even if you increase your conversion rate by five percent and you do all of these things, it's not…”
Andrew Antos Aug 31, 2026 ▶ 46:38 Sold $10M business to bet on a side app—grew it to $20M ARR | Within
Chilla: Ignoring Foundational Values Early On Permanently Ruins Scaling Startups
“It's a disastrous noise. Values can't come back. You have to start from the foundation, you know, once, I mean, we've heard of a lot of startup examples blowing up, you know, because once you reach a certain size, it's impossible to, you know, sort of revert.”
Anil Srinivas Chilla Jul 17, 2026 ▶ 29:24 Founder's Corner: EP2: Does The Ramayana matter in the Age of AI? ft. Anil Chilla
20VC Insight
Weitzman: Growth is an arbitrage game limited to content and distribution
“Growth is just an arbitrage game. You are competing with every single other person in the world who wants to get their product in front of users. And that means that your lever points are either the content that you make or how you distribute that content.”
Cliff Weitzman May 9, 2026 ▶ 7:37 Cliff Weitzman: What I Learned from 100 of the World’s Top CEOs & Why Tokens Will Outspend Salaries · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
20VC Insight
Verna: Modern startup growth is fundamentally a trust problem
“Growth is a trust problem now.”
Elena Verna Mar 14, 2026 ▶ 1:53 Elena Verna: How Lovable Launches Product & Hacks Social to Go Viral · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
SAASTR Insight
Lemkin: Software companies without accelerating growth are not AI companies
“If growth isn't accelerating, you're not an AI company.”
Jason Lemkin Feb 15, 2026 ▶ 7:17 Software Stocks Have Massively Crashed. Here's What Founders Need to Know.
Walling: Profitability is a drain on growth in SaaS
“If you're profitable, you're not investing in growth. You're putting cash in the bank, and so you're not going to be growing as fast, almost inevitably. And so to take two businesses at the same ARR and say they're going to be growing the same amount, while on…”
Rob Walling Feb 10, 2026 ▶ 15:59 Episode 819 | QSBS, Exit Multiples, How to Learn Marketing, and M...
20VC Opinion
Zeev: The growth-at-all-costs mindset is dangerous
“I think this notion that only growth matters is a very dangerous one, and I've seen this movie many, many times.”
Oren Zeev Feb 2, 2026 ▶ 15:09 Oren Zeev: Why AI Growth Expectations Are BS & Won't Last? Why GPs Shouldn't Tell LPs Their Strategy
Albert Cheng: Music and growth both rely on rapid mistakes and repetition
“I think music and growth, they both rely on this just consistent repetition. Like you're constantly making mistakes. You have this super tight feedback loop. You have to get really resilient to just making mistakes all the time. And you know that the way of le…”
Albert Cheng Oct 5, 2025 ▶ 8:20 Finding hidden growth opportunities in your product | Albert Cheng (Duolingo, Grammarly, Chess.com)
McLaughlin: Turnarounds Resemble High-Growth Environments in Velocity and Decision-Making
“Turnarounds are a lot like growth and people don't realize this. And it's like, you're making lots of decisions. Things are changing very fast and you have to, and you're trying to rebuild the company. It's different than growth where you sort of have a clean …”
Jon McLaughlin Jun 9, 2025 ▶ 4:40 Transforming Legacy Industries through Thematic Investment and AI with Jon McLaughlin
MY FIRST MILLION Assertion Partly supported
Lemkin: 70% of venture capital is going into growth rounds
“70% of the money is going into growth.”
Jason Lemkin Jun 4, 2025 ▶ 1:03:49 How the smartest founders are winning in AI
INNOVATORS & INVESTORS Prediction Not checkable as stated
Growth will not get easier for the typical software company anytime soon
“I don't personally. For see an environment where growth gets easier for the standard software company.”
Brian Parks Apr 17, 2025 ▶ 26:29 41 - Funding the Future: Bigfoot Capital's Brian Parks on Flexible Lending for B2B Growth
Puri: Copying a product fails without matching growth execution
“You could copy a product that doesn't get you the customers, and so you have to not only copy the product, you have to figure out how they grow and be as good at growth as them.”
Shaan Puri Jan 14, 2025 ▶ 36:26 Just found out my neighbor’s business sold for $450M
TOP FOUNDERS Assertion Supported
SaaS multiples still value growth at three times more than profit
“In today's environment, the actual multiple is five to six times, and that's provided that you have growth. So even though we're moving away from a growth at any cost world to a world where efficiency is prized, the reality is that growth is still worth three …”
Sam Jacobs Dec 17, 2024 ▶ 4:45 Pavilion Breaks $10m Revenue using New Growth Playbook, CEO Sam Jacobs
Shopify Divides Product Teams Across Three Time Horizons
“There's three major product groups at Shopify. There's core product, which is basically building the hundred year, the right things for commerce, a hundred years from now. There's merchant services, which is building things like payments, shipping, kind of the…”
Archie Abrams Nov 7, 2024 ▶ 11:51 Breaking the rules of growth: Why Shopify bans KPIs, optimizes for churn, and prioritizes intuition
20VC Insight
Le Nel: Growth is fundamentally a bidding war against competitors
“Growth is a bidding war, right? It's a bidding war. It's about whether you're able to bid above everyone else.”
Antoine Le Nel Oct 18, 2024 ▶ 49:11 Antoine Le Nel, CGO @Revolut: How Revolut Launch and Grow Products & Why CAC is a BS Metric | E1216 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
TOP FOUNDERS Assertion Partly supported
Sam Jacobs: Valuation Premium of Growth over Free Cash Flow Fell to 3-to-1
“It used to be growth at any cost, which means that growth really was worth almost, not infinitely more, but probably maybe 15 to 20 times what Free cash flow was worth today. We're in a world where growth is still more valuable than free cash flow, but only th…”
Sam Jacobs Aug 6, 2024 ▶ 14:35 How Pavilion Hit $10m in Revenue While Balancing Investor and Customer Demands with CEO Sam Jacobs
BG2 Assertion Supported
Gerstner: Hedge Funds Are Most Underweight Growth in a Decade
“Overall hedge funds are more underweight growth than at any point Morgan Stanley has seen in the last 10 years.”
Brad Gerstner Jul 11, 2024 ▶ 8:08 Ep12. Tech Stocks vs the Rest; AI VC Bubble, Calcium CT Scan | BG2 with Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Prioritizing growth, EBITDA, and cash flow equally guarantees you get none
“The problem is when you want three things equally, you usually get none. So there are generally in any business at any point in time tends to be some order of priority.”
Shaan Puri Jun 21, 2024 ▶ 30:38 3 Things You Need To Outperform 99% Of Entrepreneurs
20VC Insight
Lerner: Startup growth is information discovery, not executing standard playbooks
“How much of growth is actually figuring stuff out? Is actually information discovery rather than running playbooks, doing best practices, copying what other companies did?”
Matt Lerner May 31, 2024 ▶ 3:53 Matt Lerner: How to Hire Growth Leaders and Teams and Why in a World of AI | E1159 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Mo Abbas: Retention is much harder to solve than growth
“Retention is a much more difficult thing to solve than growth. Right? Because growth is all upfront. You get the data right away. You can figure that out and move or pivot or persevere with retention. There's a lot of reasons why people may not retain and it t…”
Moe Abbas Mar 8, 2024 ▶ 19:08 How to Validate an Idea | Moe Abbas, Founder of Acadium · PMF Show
Srugo: Pre-PMF growth must remain a side effect, not a goal
“You see, when it comes to product market fit, growth is and must remain a side effect or byproduct. It is destroyed and spoiled to the degree to which it has made a goal in itself. You cannot, in the early days, focus obsessively on growth. Growth is a phenome…”
Pablo Srugo Mar 8, 2024 ▶ 15:24 The Five Steps to Product Market Fit · PMF Show
20VC Insight
Gonto: Qualitative data matters more than quantitative data in growth
“I'm a big believer that qualitative information is a lot more important than quantitative information in growth.”
Martin Gontovnikas (Gonto) Feb 14, 2024 ▶ 6:00 Martin Gontovnikas (Gonto): The Biggest Mistakes Startups Make When Scaling into Enterprises | E1115 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
BG2 Assertion Supported
Gerstner: Public markets value revenue growth at 3x free cash flow margin
“I asked my team to actually plot the regression on this now, just so I could see what today are we valuing the most. And that's this next chart, which basically shows growth is being valued at about three times, right, in the rule of 40 calculation. You know, …”
Brad Gerstner Feb 8, 2024 ▶ 18:45 BG2 with Bill Gurley, Brad Gerstner & Aaron Levie | Software Valuations, Earnings, Immigration | E02 · Bg2 Pod
Simultaneously pursuing high growth and higher profit margins is inherently contradictory
“Growth and profit are, they battle each other. Let's say we define profit as return on equity. Well, if you're going to increase growth and increase return on equity, how do you do that? Because you're basically going to invest less to get your return on equit…”
Richard Rumelt Jan 21, 2024 ▶ 13:23 Good Strategy, Bad Strategy | Richard Rumelt
Payne argues growth trumps profitability for SaaS companies before reaching scale
“I still believe, and I know it's unpopular this month, but the growth trumps profitability right now, especially if you're early in a market and you're not at scale.”
Joe Payne Nov 1, 2023 ▶ 23:52 He hit $120m in ARR Then Sold $70m Unit for $250m, Today His Secrurity SaaS is Cash Rich... whats next?
THE PITCH Opinion
Howie Diamond argues Ride IQ warrants a $6M valuation due to slow growth
“Their margins are great, their growth is not. So like six, between six and seven makes sense.”
Howie Diamond Oct 18, 2023 ▶ 18:45 1. "This Startup Pitch for Equestrian Tech Just Changed the Game for Horse Training Technology!"
Katie Dill: Product quality directly drives growth, not trades off against it
“I know there's this saying of like, it's growth versus quality, but like, Quality is growth. And if you think about how you can make your product easier to use and more understandable, you know, that will of course drive people to use it and use more of it and…”
Katie Dill Oct 15, 2023 ▶ 15:42 Building beautiful products with Stripe’s Head of Design | Katie Dill (Stripe, Airbnb, Lyft)
Press coverage is too unpredictable to rely on for startup growth
“This is not something that I think that you should bank on as a strategy for growth. It's a great add-on, but if you think that press by itself is going to solve your problems, you're wrong, because it might, but it's way too unpredictable.”
Jason Feifer Oct 12, 2023 ▶ 8:29 How to get press for your product | Jason Feifer (editor in chief of Entrepreneur magazine)
Balfour: Adding good friction often outperforms reducing friction for down-funnel engagement
“I think a lot of people are taught to always reduce, reduce, reduce friction, but actually oftentimes the right thing to do is to add the right amount of friction to, you know, create, create those experiences and those right engagement metrics down funnel”
Brian Balfour Oct 5, 2023 ▶ 44:41 Brian Balfour: 10 lessons on career, growth, and life
20VC Insight
Balfour: Treating growth as a single discipline is a fundamental mistake
“Growth does not mean one thing. As we've talked through, you have to understand the different types of growth systems out there, the ones that work with what types of businesses, and then how do you map talent metrics in other things to those systems. And so I…”
Brian Balfour Aug 16, 2023 ▶ 1:00:03 Brian Balfour: Startup Growth Secrets from HubSpot; Distribution Stratagies; Impact of AI | E1049 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Singhal: Professional superpowers naturally create corresponding executive blind spots
“Great collaborators sometimes are very reticent to present their own opinions because they're so good at assimilating others or people that are amazing at growth struggle to be innovative. People that are world-class storytellers struggle to get in the details…”
Nikhyl Singhal Jun 11, 2023 ▶ 55:22 Building a long and meaningful career | Nikhyl Singhal (Meta, Google)
20VC Insight
Cohen: Platform growth and trust exist in a fundamental trade-off
“Usually there is a trade-off between trust and growth, right? Because you want to allow for a lot more growth in the system. You want to reduce friction. When you read restriction, you also allowed, allow usually for bad activity to engage as well. And the mor…”
Tomer Cohen May 27, 2023 ▶ 38:05 Tomer Cohen: Why LinkedIn Stories Failed; How LinkedIn's Feed Was Born; AI Startups | E1019 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Gupta: Re-accelerating Growth Once a Business Stalls Is Extraordinarily Difficult
“Growth is extraordinarily hard to come by once you've kind of stopped growing. It is so hard to get something to move up again.”
Ravi Gupta Apr 18, 2023 ▶ 25:57 Ravi Gupta: The Realities of Success
20VC Insight
Duboe: Successful growth teams should eventually be absorbed into product and marketing
“If the practice of growth is successful, it should eventually abstract itself away and just be how product and marketing are run.”
Mike Duboe Feb 16, 2023 ▶ 10:09 Mike Duboe: Top 5 Lessons Scaling Stitch Fix to IPO; Why CAC/LTV is a BS Metric | 20VC #978 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
SAASTR Insight
Lemkin: Layoffs are temporary fixes that do not generate growth
“Layoffs don't really solve anything. They're just little, they're little snacks, right? They make little incremental changes, but layoffs don't create growth on their own, right?”
Jason Lemkin Feb 3, 2023 ▶ 13:58 What Venture Looks Like In 2023 | SaaStr Founder Jason Lemkin + 20VC Host Harry Stebbings
a16z Insight
Power: Every major ideological struggle reduces to growth versus degrowth
“It just comes down to like growth versus degrowth. Like that is the eternal cultural fight and you can call it capitalism or communism, or you can call it like the state versus the people, or you can call it decentralization versus centralization.”
Chris Power Nov 18, 2022 ▶ 1:02:41 The Factory of the Future with Chris Power
Trinh: Following veteran tech experts' growth advice is often a mistake
“When you're listening to the experts or listening to like the, like, you know, the people who have been there, done that, tell you how you need to be growing and tell you how you need to be approaching a problem. You know, it was it was often really bad advice…”
Danny Trinh Oct 11, 2022 ▶ 27:57 Keeping it Real with Danny Trinh
Confirming true product-market fit requires 6 to 12 months of retention
“So growth can only be discussed if you have a strong product market fit. What does it mean to have strong product market fit? Is that you A, have retention obviously, so it takes some time to actually measure retention. And I would say at least six months to a…”
Elena Verna Sep 22, 2022 ▶ 55:25 Why product-led growth is the future | Elena Verna (Amplitude, Miro, Surveymonkey)
20VC Insight
Luc Levesque: Growth is whatever it takes to move one key metric
“It's basically whatever it takes to move that one metric you're trying to increase.”
Luc Levesque Jul 13, 2022 ▶ 8:33 Luc Levesque: The Biggest Mistakes Founders Make When Hiring for Growth | 20VC #906 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
20VC Insight
Levesque: Developing growth intuition requires extensive pattern matching experience
“Growth takes a really long time to build intuition around. So you need to have done a lot of experiments, tried a lot of different things, and growth is a lot about pattern matching.”
Luc Levesque Jul 13, 2022 ▶ 11:15 Luc Levesque: The Biggest Mistakes Founders Make When Hiring for Growth | 20VC #906 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
SAASTR Opinion
Çilingir: Growth remains king over capital efficiency and profitability
“At the end of today, even in this, again, macroeconomic environment, where people are starting to look for also profitability or capital efficiency, still, ladies and gentlemen, growth is the king.”
Hande Çilingir Jul 12, 2022 ▶ 29:01 Top 10 Mistakes in Building Out Your Revenue Organization with Insider CEO Hande Çilingir | SaaStr
SAASTR Assertion Not checkable as stated
Janz: Venture funding has shifted and growth is no longer rewarded at all costs
“Whether you like it or not, and I don't really know if there will be an extended funding winter but it's pretty clear that something has changed in the funding environment in the last couple of days, weeks, and months. Growth is no longer rewarded at any cost.”
Christoph Janz Jun 29, 2022 ▶ 1:27 Balancing Growth and Efficiency in Tougher Times | Point Nine Managing Partner Christoph Janz
Jabbar: Churn matters more than growth when evaluating SaaS acquisitions
“The one that scares me and also excites me is churn. ... I don't say growth, it's churn, for sure.”
Akil Jabbar May 23, 2022 ▶ 12:38 Startup Acquisition Stories with Akeel Jabber - Investment Director at Horizen Capital
Walling: Rapid SaaS Growth Destroys Cash Reserves
“The truth is that growth just destroys cash. Like, no matter how much cash we made, I've, I was spending it on AWS bills. I was spending it with SendGrid.”
Rob Walling Jan 12, 2022 ▶ 32:07 Saas Companies that Anyone Can Start with Rob Walling
CAPITAL ALLOCATORS Assertion Partly supported
Graña: EM Value Outperformed Pre-2008, but Growth Led Post-2008
“You have to consider that before Value outperformed growth on average six out of seven years in emerging markets, but post 2008 growth, I think has outperformed nine out of 11 years.”
Daniel Graña Sep 30, 2021 ▶ 22:17 Daniel Graña – Janus Henderson Investors Emerging Markets Equity (Manager Meetings, EP.13)
20VC Insight
Winters: Growth connects users to existing value, not new features
“Growth is about connecting people to the value that's already been created by the business, you know, either through Product or services or whatever. So growth is not about building totally new features, totally new products. It's about once we have those and …”
Casey Winters Sep 22, 2021 ▶ 7:15 Welcome 20Growth: How To Hire a Head of Growth? What are Signs of World-Class Talent? How To Structure the Process? How To Onboard Growth Teams? The Relationship Between Head of Growth and CEO and more with Casey Winters, Chief Product Officer @ Eventbrit
20VC Insight
Katrina Lake: Growth Is Most Important if Unit Economics Work
“Growth is almost always going to be most important, predicated on the fact that, you know, this is a healthy business and one where the math works.”
Katrina Lake Dec 3, 2020 ▶ 17:04 20VC: Stitch Fix Founder Katrina Lake on Growth vs Profitability, Her Biggest Lessons From Working with Bill Gurley at Benchmark and The Importance of Mental Flexibility as a Leader
CAPITAL ALLOCATORS Prediction Open · timeframe May 2030
Siegel: Long-term investors should tilt toward value over growth over 10-20 years
“If you're a long-term investor, you should probably tilt your portfolio toward value, not growth at this point. You may lose for a while, but in 10 or 20 years, you'll be very happy.”
Larry Siegel May 11, 2020 ▶ 21:14 Laurence Siegel – Current Myths and Long-Term Optimism (Capital Allocators, EP.137)
Booth: Debt repayment requires higher taxes that will slow growth and cause deflation
“Now, the only way it doesn't become a drag on future growth, growth, and it becomes hyperinflationary, is when, logically, governments destroy their currencies, because they can't pay back the debt. But assuming they have to pay back the debt, somebody has to …”
Jeff Booth Apr 30, 2020 ▶ 9:05 When Will Poor Revolt Against Rich? Is Unemployment Good? Currency Pegged To Bitcoin with Jeff Booth
Maples: Compelling value propositions turn growth into education, not persuasion
“And so if the truth of your value proposition is super compelling, then growth becomes the exercise of syndicating the truth. And if the truth of your value proposition is not present, you have to grow by throwing money at the problem of growth. You have to sp…”
Mike Maples Jr. Mar 3, 2020 ▶ 13:11 #77 Mike Maples: Living in the Future
Alströmer: Working on growth before product-market fit is a bad idea
“It's because working on growth before you have product market fit and good retention is not a good idea.”
Gustaf Alströmer Aug 15, 2019 ▶ 0:27 Gustaf Alströmer - Growth for Startups · Y Combinator
SAASTR Insight
Startups with eight-month runways cannot rely on three-year marketing horizons
“The thing is when you are an early stage company, you cannot really afford to plan your growth based on something that's going to happen in three years because you only have money for like eight months.”
Romain Lapeyre May 15, 2019 ▶ 9:06 Lessons from Gorgias: How to Close your First 1000 Customers Based Solely on Data
SAASTR Insight
Western: Pursuing rapid growth merely introduces volatility and widens outcomes
“Growth is another word for introducing volatility. Widening the fan of outcomes for that company.”
Alex Western Jan 29, 2019 ▶ 3:27 Is Growth Bad for Startups?
Schultz: Growth Is Not a Business Strategy
“And so growth became the strategy of the company, and growth is not a strategy.”
Howard Schultz Sep 28, 2017 ▶ 37:35 Live Episode! Starbucks: Howard Schultz
20VC Insight
Oetting: Business Growth Creates Value Only With Operating Leverage
“Growth creates value when there's an argument or there is evidence of operating leverage, because then it creates more profitability.”
Drew Oetting Sep 27, 2017 ▶ 16:22 20VC: Why VCs Have Forgotten Their Job To Invest In Entrepreneurs not Technologists, How To Know When Growth Creates Value and When It Destroys It & How To Bootstrap Learning Most People Acquire Over Decades with 8VC Founding Partner, Drew Oetting
SAASTR Insight
Siroker: Founders should pace growth for longevity, not headline speed
“Make it a conscious commitment, not an unconscious commitment, to grow at a pace that enables you, ah, to build an enduring company, not just, you know, one of the top fastest growing companies of the year.”
Dan Siroker Jul 7, 2017 ▶ 14:10 How to Break Out and Really Scale
Altman: Pausing growth for initiatives like rebranding is almost always a disaster
“And you should be extremely suspicious if you're ever talking about, we're not focused on growth right now. We're not growing that well right now, but we're doing this other thing, you know. We don't have a timeline for when we're gonna ship this, because we'r…”
Sam Altman Mar 17, 2017 ▶ 34:45 Team and Execution with Sam Altman (How to Start a Startup 2014: Lecture 2) · Y Combinator
The faster a business grows, the faster it dies
“And in fact, that's why the faster a business grows, the faster it dies also.”
Yvon Chouinard Dec 12, 2016 ▶ 9:28 Patagonia: Yvon Chouinard
20VC Insight
Deeter: Growth is single most correlated short-term variable to enterprise value
“Growth is still fundamentally rewarded, and it's the single most correlated variable in the short term To enterprise value. Really, if you deconstruct where the outliers are both good and bad, you'll find that it's efficient growth that's rewarded most.”
Byron Deeter May 2, 2016 ▶ 15:20 20VC: Bessemer's Byron Deeter on The Commonalities Of Truly Great Founders and Learnings From Investing In Box, Twilio and GainSight

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