Yvon Chouinard

Founder & Board Member, Patagonia · 2 appearances on the record.

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Yvon Chouinard founded Chouinard Equipment and the outdoor apparel company Patagonia, pioneering environmentally conscious business practices and clean climbing gear. In 2022, he and his family transferred company ownership to a dedicated trust and non-profit collective to direct all future profits toward combating climate change.

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14 assertions · 10 insights · 7 disclosures · every statement was checked. The predictions and assertions are the 14 claims: statements the public record can support or contradict. 9 are resolved, and 5 name no date, number or outcome precise enough to check. Everything else (opinions, insights, what ifs, disclosures) can never be settled by the record, so it carries no assessment.

The record, in short

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Their most notable supported claim

Assertion Supported
Patagonia runs mobile trucks that repair damaged clothing from any brand
“In fact, we've got a truck that's going around the country, repairing people's clothes, no matter whether they're Patagonia or not.”
Yvon Chouinard Dec 12, 2016 ▶ 11:51 Patagonia: Yvon Chouinard

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Everything Yvon Chouinard said on How I Built This that made the record, most notable first. Filter by type, assessment or year in the ledger →

Insight
Chouinard says relying on customer feedback is too late for true innovation
“If you wait for the customer to tell you what to do, you're too late. So we were our own customer, and I think that was the secret of coming out with products that a lot of the products people didn't even know they wanted or needed.”
Yvon Chouinard Dec 25, 2017 ▶ 7:40 Patagonia: Yvon Chouinard (2016)
Insight
Chouinard claims the faster a business grows, the faster it dies
“And in fact, that's why the faster a business grows, the faster it dies also.”
Yvon Chouinard Dec 25, 2017 ▶ 9:50 Patagonia: Yvon Chouinard (2016)
Insight
Retrofitting radical workplace flexibility into existing companies is destined to fail
“I've had other companies come to me and say, oh, I love that idea. I think I'll institute it in my company. I say, forget it. You'll fail. Because you have to start with the very first person you hire.”
Yvon Chouinard Dec 12, 2016 ▶ 16:46 Patagonia: Yvon Chouinard
Insight
Copying Patagonia's flexible work policy fails without early cultural buy-in
“And you know, I've had other companies come to me and say, oh, I love that idea. I think I'll institute it in my company. I say, forget it. You'll fail. Because you have to start with the very first person you hire.”
Yvon Chouinard Dec 25, 2017 ▶ 17:08 Patagonia: Yvon Chouinard (2016)
Disclosure
Chouinard insists Patagonia will never sell out or go public
“We're not gonna sell out. We're not gonna go public.”
Yvon Chouinard Dec 25, 2017 ▶ 18:42 Patagonia: Yvon Chouinard (2016)
Insight
The faster a business grows, the faster it dies
“And in fact, that's why the faster a business grows, the faster it dies also.”
Yvon Chouinard Dec 12, 2016 ▶ 9:28 Patagonia: Yvon Chouinard
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Patagonia's advertising budget is only 0.5% of its total sales
“In fact, our advertising budget is one half of one percent of sales, and so I wait for the customer to tell us how much to make.”
Yvon Chouinard Dec 12, 2016 ▶ 10:04 Patagonia: Yvon Chouinard
Disclosure
Patagonia will never sell out or become a publicly traded company
“We're not gonna sell out. We're not gonna go public, and so it's good business.”
Yvon Chouinard Dec 12, 2016 ▶ 18:24 Patagonia: Yvon Chouinard
Insight
To understand entrepreneurs, study juvenile delinquents who reject the status quo
“If you want to understand the entrepreneur, study the juvenile delinquent. Because they're saying, you know, this sucks, I'm going to do it my own way”
Yvon Chouinard Dec 12, 2016 ▶ 19:03 Patagonia: Yvon Chouinard
Insight
Chouinard argues immediate iterative steps beat overthinking plans beforehand
“If I get an idea, I immediately take a step forward and see how that feels. If it feels good, I take another step. If it feels bad, I step back. You know, it's different than people with a scientific view where they think everything out to the nth degree befor…”
Yvon Chouinard Dec 25, 2017 ▶ 6:13 Patagonia: Yvon Chouinard (2016)
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Patagonia spends only 0.5% of its total sales on advertising
“We, in fact, our advertising budget is one half of one percent of sales, and so I wait for the customer to tell us how much to make.”
Yvon Chouinard Dec 25, 2017 ▶ 10:26 Patagonia: Yvon Chouinard (2016)
Disclosure
Chouinard says Patagonia has no interest in producing inexpensive clothing lines
“And I'm not interested in, in coming out with a line of inexpensive clothes.”
Yvon Chouinard Dec 25, 2017 ▶ 14:08 Patagonia: Yvon Chouinard (2016)
Disclosure
Chouinard takes five months off yearly to fish, barely calling in
“You know, I take off from June until November. I'm gone. I got a place in Jackson Hole, and I go fishing every day, and I call in maybe three times in the five months that I'm gone.”
Yvon Chouinard Dec 25, 2017 ▶ 16:00 Patagonia: Yvon Chouinard (2016)
Insight
Chouinard advises entrepreneurs to invent new categories rather than fight incumbents
“If you want to be successful in business, you don't go up against Coca-Cola and You know, these big companies there, they'll kill you. You just do it differently. You figure out something that no one else has thought about, and you do it a totally different wa…”
Yvon Chouinard Dec 25, 2017 ▶ 19:58 Patagonia: Yvon Chouinard (2016)
Insight
Entrepreneurs should learn by doing incrementally rather than through exhaustive planning
“If I get an idea, I immediately take a step forward and see how that feels. If it feels good, I take another step. If it feels bad, I step back. You know, it's different than people with a scientific view where they think everything out to the nth degree befor…”
Yvon Chouinard Dec 12, 2016 ▶ 5:51 Patagonia: Yvon Chouinard
Insight
Being your own target customer unlocks non-obvious product breakthroughs
“So we were our own customer, and I think that was the secret of coming out with products that, a lot of the products people didn't even know they wanted or needed.”
Yvon Chouinard Dec 12, 2016 ▶ 7:23 Patagonia: Yvon Chouinard
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Chouinard rejected 18% loans from mafia figures during Patagonia's 1980s crisis
“In fact, my accountant introduced me to some mafia guys who wanted to loan me some money at 18% interest, which I turned down, but what saved us is, is we got some personal loans from some friends and pretty much Fired some management that got us into this pro…”
Yvon Chouinard Dec 12, 2016 ▶ 8:46 Patagonia: Yvon Chouinard
Assertion Supported
Patagonia runs mobile trucks that repair damaged clothing from any brand
“In fact, we've got a truck that's going around the country, repairing people's clothes, no matter whether they're Patagonia or not.”
Yvon Chouinard Dec 12, 2016 ▶ 11:51 Patagonia: Yvon Chouinard
Disclosure
Yvon Chouinard refuses to produce a line of inexpensive Patagonia clothing
“And I'm not interested in, in coming out with a line of inexpensive clothes.”
Yvon Chouinard Dec 12, 2016 ▶ 13:47 Patagonia: Yvon Chouinard
Disclosure
Chouinard takes five months off annually to fish, checking in thrice
“I take off from June until November. I'm gone. I got a place in Jackson Hole, and I go fishing every day, and I call in maybe three times in the five months that I'm gone.”
Yvon Chouinard Dec 12, 2016 ▶ 15:38 Patagonia: Yvon Chouinard
Assertion Supported
Chouinard's reusable climbing pitons cost 10x more than European competitors
“The European pitons were selling for 15 cents a piece, and mine were a dollar and a half.”
Yvon Chouinard Dec 25, 2017 ▶ 3:41 Patagonia: Yvon Chouinard (2016)
Assertion Supported
Chouinard's first company controlled 80% of US climbing hardware market
“We had 80% of the market.”
Yvon Chouinard Dec 25, 2017 ▶ 3:56 Patagonia: Yvon Chouinard (2016)
Disclosure
Chouinard's early equipment company ran on 1% profit, paying founders hourly
“We were making about one percent profit at the end of the year. We were basically paying ourselves by the hour.”
Yvon Chouinard Dec 25, 2017 ▶ 4:12 Patagonia: Yvon Chouinard (2016)
Assertion Supported
Chouinard: Patagonia operates North America's largest garment repair center
“In fact, we now have the largest garment repair center in North America.”
Yvon Chouinard Dec 25, 2017 ▶ 12:02 Patagonia: Yvon Chouinard (2016)

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The other half of the tape: Yvon Chouinard's own voice is left out of every number here. Other people bring the name up 36 times in 9 episodes on How I Built This. 4 statements on the record name them. every mention, with the transcript →

Who brings them up most Guy Raz 26Tom Campion 6Peter Metcalf 2Susan Griffin Black 1Peter Sterios 1

Statements about Yvon Chouinard, by other people (4)

Assertion Not checkable as stated
Yvon Chouinard Was 'Ashamed' of His 1987 Chouinard Equipment Catalog
“And we gave him a copy, and he called myself and my marketing director, who really was my partner in the business. And we said, as he looked at the catalog, that he was really ashamed of it, that it represented everything that he stood against in what was goin…”
Peter Metcalf Oct 28, 2024 ▶ 14:52 Black Diamond Equipment: Peter Metcalf
Assertion Supported
Yvon Chouinard never took outside investment and owns 100% of Patagonia
“He never took a penny of investment, by the way. He still owns a hundred percent of the company.”
Guy Raz Dec 25, 2017 ▶ 21:38 Patagonia: Yvon Chouinard (2016)
Assertion Supported
Patagonia generated a reported $750 million in annual sales in 2015
“So despite the fact that endless growth may not be Ivan Chouinard's thing, Patagonia reportedly did three quarters of a billion dollars in sales last year. Their best year ever.”
Guy Raz Dec 12, 2016 ▶ 21:24 Patagonia: Yvon Chouinard
Assertion Supported
Yvon Chouinard never took outside investment and owns 100% of Patagonia
“He never took a penny of investment, by the way. He still owns a hundred percent of the company.”
Guy Raz Dec 12, 2016 ▶ 21:16 Patagonia: Yvon Chouinard

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Appearances (2)

EpisodeDateSpeaking time
Patagonia: Yvon Chouinard (2016) Dec 25, 2017 14m
Patagonia: Yvon Chouinard Dec 12, 2016 14m
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