SAP

company on 32 shows · 119 statements across 77 episodes · said 752 times in 356 episodes since 2013

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ALL-IN Opinion
Chamath: Vertical SaaS Is Easily Replicated Workflows, Not Moats
“I don't think vertical SaaS has a system of record. I don't think that's what they do. I think they're workflows. This is the key point where these horizontal monolithic companies like Salesforce are just unique. Workday, Oracle with respect to their GL. It's …”
Chamath Palihapitiya Aug 29, 2026 ▶ 25:10 Nvidia's Historic Quarter, SaaS Comeback, Bessent vs Druck, America's Debt Crisis, Cancer Vaccine
a16z Prediction Not checkable as stated
Acharya: AI Agents Pose an Existential Threat to SAP
“There are a couple of moats that are exposed. For me, the integration moat is the most obvious one. You know, SAP is, is so famously complex to integrate into and out of that. It's a sort of existential risk to even migrate from one version of SAP to the next.…”
Anish Acharya Aug 26, 2026 ▶ 6:13 The State of AI: Models, Moats, and the Consumer Renaissance
Evans: Enterprise sales and integration cycles take at least 18 months
“Jesus Christ, it takes three to six months to get somebody at an enterprise to reply to your inquiry about selling them some software. You know, the enterprise sales cycle is what, 18 months? At best? You know, you want to add a new thing and plug it into SAP …”
Benedict Evans Aug 16, 2026 ▶ 13:41 AI deployment
a16z Opinion
Amble: Postgres and APIs cannot easily replace SAP's business logic
“Misconception right now is that you can just have, you know, Postgres database and APIs, and then bam, like you can replace SAP. That's like absolutely not true. That piece around the logic and everything else that is in captured in SAP is way, way more import…”
Seema Amble Jul 7, 2026 ▶ 0:32 Software in the Age of Agents | The a16z Show
a16z Opinion
Sinofsky: Removing SAP would cause auto manufacturers and Walmart to evaporate
“If you take SAP out of a large automobile manufacturer, there's no automobile manufacturer left. Or Walmart. Like the company just evaporates. Because the company is defined, not just by purchasing the software, not even by just using it, but by how they codif…”
Steven Sinofsky Jul 7, 2026 ▶ 17:29 Software in the Age of Agents | The a16z Show
LENNY'S PODCAST Prediction Not checkable as stated
Evans: Enterprise AI software replacement will take three to ten years
“So I know people aren't going to tear out SAP and replace it with X, Y, Z. Maybe in five, in like three, five, 10 years, yes, that whole estate will look radically different. And all those jobs will have changed, but it will take, you know, two, three, four, f…”
Benedict Evans May 31, 2026 ▶ 21:58 The most rational take on AI you’ll hear this year
NO PRIORS Assertion Supported
Herzig: SAP powers core operations for 400,000 enterprise customers
“SAP is the market leader, right, in enterprise of software applications and platforms, right? It's a 400,000 enterprise customers, and usually I just running their finance and HR and, you know, supply chain, manufacturing, execution, logistics, warehouse manag…”
Philipp Herzig Apr 23, 2026 ▶ 1:37 SAP: Bringing the ‘Operating System’ of a Company into the AI Era with CTO Philipp Herzig
NO PRIORS Opinion
Herzig: Enterprise AI adoption gap is widening rather than narrowing
“We also see that the AI adoption in the enterprise is still not where we want to see it, right? Like there's this Gartner curve, right? Where say like there's this AI innovation race, and then there's this AI outcome race, right? Then the gap almost increases,…”
Philipp Herzig Apr 23, 2026 ▶ 6:10 SAP: Bringing the ‘Operating System’ of a Company into the AI Era with CTO Philipp Herzig
NO PRIORS Insight
Herzig: System of Record Data Is Insufficient for Autonomous Enterprise Agents
“If you just look into the system of record today, that data is insufficient for this grand vision that everybody has, that it becomes this autonomous enterprise or like the agency of these agents is increasing right over time.”
Philipp Herzig Apr 23, 2026 ▶ 18:22 SAP: Bringing the ‘Operating System’ of a Company into the AI Era with CTO Philipp Herzig
NO PRIORS Prediction Not checkable as stated
Herzig: Most enterprise agents will rely on tool calling, not GUI
“I still believe for the most part it will, The majority will live with tool calling, right? And agents running in the background and so on, right? Because you also don't, you know, maybe want to have the browser open all the time. Okay, we can do this with hea…”
Philipp Herzig Apr 23, 2026 ▶ 21:27 SAP: Bringing the ‘Operating System’ of a Company into the AI Era with CTO Philipp Herzig
NO PRIORS Disclosure
Herzig: SAP built a knowledge graph to bridge natural language and structured data
“We are seeing through, for example, the knowledge graph, the SAP knowledge graph that we've built, which is kind of the glue between natural language and the structured data in the system to really bring this together.”
Philipp Herzig Apr 23, 2026 ▶ 24:45 SAP: Bringing the ‘Operating System’ of a Company into the AI Era with CTO Philipp Herzig
NO PRIORS Insight
Herzig: Large language models are not designed for predictive enterprise tasks
“Now, if you want to do these predictions, quite frankly, then the challenge is large language models are not made for this, right? The way how they, you know, generate just one token after another, essentially, in a sequence-to-sequence modeling. I mean, They'…”
Philipp Herzig Apr 23, 2026 ▶ 26:43 SAP: Bringing the ‘Operating System’ of a Company into the AI Era with CTO Philipp Herzig
NO PRIORS Disclosure
Herzig: SAP developed RPT-ONE tabular foundation models after two years of research
“And that led, actually, this was two years of research. We published it also at NeurIPS and a bunch of other conferences. We call this RPT-ONE, so RAPID-ONE stands for relational pre-trained transformers. It's still based on the transformer architecture, but w…”
Philipp Herzig Apr 23, 2026 ▶ 28:27 SAP: Bringing the ‘Operating System’ of a Company into the AI Era with CTO Philipp Herzig
NO PRIORS Disclosure
Herzig: SAP software is mostly licensed per-seat today with few exceptions
“For the most part, SAP software is seat based, licensed today with a few exceptions like a conquer or a field glass, for example, or the business network.”
Philipp Herzig Apr 23, 2026 ▶ 34:34 SAP: Bringing the ‘Operating System’ of a Company into the AI Era with CTO Philipp Herzig
NO PRIORS Prediction Not checkable as stated
Herzig: AI will transition software pricing to consumption, then outcome-based models
“Very clearly with AI, it was very clear for us that, you know, step by step, it will go towards this consumptive world, right? First consumptive, and then maybe in the next step, once we have more verifiability in the system, then also towards maybe an outcome…”
Philipp Herzig Apr 23, 2026 ▶ 34:48 SAP: Bringing the ‘Operating System’ of a Company into the AI Era with CTO Philipp Herzig
NEON SHOW Disclosure
Kumari: Merlin AI has replaced NetSuite, Dynamics, SAP, Epicor, Syspro, and Odoo
“As far as NetSuite and, you know, Dynamics and SAPs and Pro and Epicore, SysPro, all of which we have replaced, Odoo also, by the way the latest to join the bandwagon, like all of these were not built for construction.”
Sneha Kumari Apr 9, 2026 ▶ 18:39 Why Construction still Runs on Spreadsheets (And How AI Fixes It) | Sneha & Graham, Merlin AI
a16z Opinion
Sinofsky: Vibe coding cannot recreate complex enterprise systems like SAP
“It's just absurd to think you're going to vibe code your way to like SAP.”
Steven Sinofsky Apr 8, 2026 ▶ 29:55 Box CEO on the AI Adoption Gap | The a16z Show
a16z Prediction Not checkable as stated
Sinofsky: Persistence of SAP will slow AI adoption on enterprise data
“SAP isn't going anywhere, so then that's going to slow the diffusion of AI on that particular data source, independent of whether or not it's Agentified AI that's doing stuff or just read-only reporting on stuff?”
Steven Sinofsky Apr 8, 2026 ▶ 30:01 Box CEO on the AI Adoption Gap | The a16z Show
20VC Prediction Not checkable as stated
O'Driscoll: Salesforce will thrive long-term like legacy system-of-record giants
“All the big pre-SaaS companies that had systems of record, Oracle, PeopleSoft, which rolled up into Oracle and SAP. Survived and financially thrived, even if they're not exciting in the age of cloud. And I, my guess is Salesforce does the same in a way that th…”
Rory O'Driscoll Mar 12, 2026 ▶ 1:17:49 Anthropic vs The Pentagon: Who Wins? | The Data Center Arms Race | The Ultimate Stock Picks · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
NEON SHOW Opinion
Ashu Garg: CIOs migrating ERPs without context graphs are failing their duties
“If you are the CIO organization in a Fortune hundred company, and you are thinking about an SAP or an Oracle migration, well, call one 800 Tessera, because if you are looking to drive a major, you know, system of record migration without exploring What, you kn…”
Ashu Garg Feb 27, 2026 ▶ 32:29 AI Needs to Know Why You took THAT decision | Ashu Garg, Investor at Foundation Capital
Evans: Replacing enterprise software like SAP with Claude is foolish
“Everyone who works in enterprise software and knows anything about it, kind of put their head in their hands and said, oh my God, do I actually have to explain why this is dumb? Is, you know, you'll use Claude instead of SAP. Fine. If you need me to explain th…”
Benedict Evans Feb 23, 2026 ▶ 0:19 AI and SaaS
a16z Prediction Open · timeframe Dec 2026
David George: AI model companies will add 75-80% of public software's net revenue in 2026
“And I think if you were to do that same comparison for 2026, all of the entire public software industry, I mean, SAP, this is not just SaaS, like including SAP and older software companies. I think the AI companies, the model companies will be something like 7…”
David George Feb 9, 2026 ▶ 36:34 AI Markets: Deep Dive with a16z's David George
20VC Assertion Partly supported
Acharya: Coding agents dramatically lower enterprise software switching costs
“But now with coding agents, the complexity of transitioning from SAP to Oracle is dramatically lower, the speed, the risk. So that is how I think coding agents shows up in enterprise software, especially amongst public names. Decrease switching costs, more cus…”
Anish Acharya Feb 9, 2026 ▶ 7:23 a16z, Anish Acharya: Is SaaS Dead? Do Margins Still Matter? Why We Are Not in an AI Bubble? · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Horowitz: Displacing incumbents like Salesforce or SAP with AI remains extremely difficult
“If you look at existing software companies, like people think, oh, they're all dead. Some of these guys are extremely hard targets. Like it's not that easy to take out Salesforce or SAP. You would be surprised even with AI, like how much heavy lifting that is.”
Ben Horowitz Feb 3, 2026 ▶ 7:45 Why The Laws of Startup Physics Have Changed | Ben Horowitz Interview · Invest Like The Best
a16z Prediction Not checkable as stated
Rampell: Software incumbents like SAP and Adobe will grow stronger with AI
“Bill.com is gonna be a stronger business, Or SAP is going to be a stronger business, or Adobe is going to be a stronger business because of AI.”
Alex Rampell Jan 19, 2026 ▶ 12:46 The AI Opportunity that goes beyond Models
BIG TECHNOLOGY Assertion Not checkable as stated
SAP: AI rollout across 40,000 developers has caused no job reductions
“Where we have actually rolled out tools to broadly our 35, 40,000 developers, as you pointed out earlier, that is already giving significant efficiency in terms of development, in terms of execution engineering systems, pipeline management that we do internall…”
Muhammad Alam Dec 9, 2025 ▶ 1:53 SAP's Muhammad Alam: AI's Real Employment Impact, Path To Genuine ROI, Is Hype Good?
BIG TECHNOLOGY Disclosure
Alam: SAP expects headcount growth despite AI scaling 40,000 developers 5x
“And with that, what we're looking to go do is now not just operate at the throughput of 40,000 people, but operated the throughput of five X of 200,000 effective staff to deliver even more innovation for our customers, and we might even Honestly, in 26, barrin…”
Muhammad Alam Dec 9, 2025 ▶ 3:35 SAP's Muhammad Alam: AI's Real Employment Impact, Path To Genuine ROI, Is Hype Good?
Alam: AI-enabled 200-person startup matches output of 2,000 enterprise developers
“In today's world with the tech that's out there, a 200% startup can actually operate at the throughput of what we operate with 2000 or a thousand. Where we sort of maintain and sustain our advantage is if we take our 2000 and now operate it at the pace of 8000…”
Muhammad Alam Dec 9, 2025 ▶ 5:52 SAP's Muhammad Alam: AI's Real Employment Impact, Path To Genuine ROI, Is Hype Good?
Alam: AI enables product managers to build up to 80% of apps
“Gone are the days where a product manager is just writing a spec and sort of giving a set of instructions or requirements for somebody else to go build, like a product manager necessarily now can be empowered to generate an app and get it to 40, 50 in some cas…”
Muhammad Alam Dec 9, 2025 ▶ 10:01 SAP's Muhammad Alam: AI's Real Employment Impact, Path To Genuine ROI, Is Hype Good?
BIG TECHNOLOGY Disclosure
Alam: SAP pilot team delivered a full quarter's output in two weeks
“Another team as part of these front runner teams came and said, hey, we delivered almost all of what we did in the last quarter in this last two week sprint.”
Muhammad Alam Dec 9, 2025 ▶ 11:53 SAP's Muhammad Alam: AI's Real Employment Impact, Path To Genuine ROI, Is Hype Good?
BIG TECHNOLOGY Disclosure
SAP's deployed AI tools have boosted internal developer throughput up to 20%
“We're generally within 10 to 20%, even better already with the tools we've rolled out with the potential of what we just discussed a few minutes ago. I think that the potential is, is multiples of what we delivered today from a throughput perspective.”
Muhammad Alam Dec 9, 2025 ▶ 15:59 SAP's Muhammad Alam: AI's Real Employment Impact, Path To Genuine ROI, Is Hype Good?
BIG TECHNOLOGY Prediction Not checkable as stated
Alam: Enterprise AI will advance from efficiency assistants to autonomous financial closes
“Now, these capabilities ladder up to an assistant that makes that role 20% efficient to begin with, As we add more, it becomes 50% more efficient, 60%. Eventually, it will get to a place where you can say that, hey, most of the recommendations, eight or nine o…”
Muhammad Alam Dec 9, 2025 ▶ 21:02 SAP's Muhammad Alam: AI's Real Employment Impact, Path To Genuine ROI, Is Hype Good?
BIG TECHNOLOGY Prediction Not checkable as stated
Alam: Enterprise adoption of autonomous AI agents will take a full decade
“That end state of everything is going to be run by agents, billions of agents. I mean, I think it's just, it's an unrealistic, hyped up end state right now that we're not ready to get to, and I think there's a lot of other people that are now saying the same t…”
Muhammad Alam Dec 9, 2025 ▶ 23:00 SAP's Muhammad Alam: AI's Real Employment Impact, Path To Genuine ROI, Is Hype Good?
BIG TECHNOLOGY Disclosure
SAP is training RapidOne tabular AI models using permissioned customer data
“We announced at TechEd a couple weeks ago that we're super proud of is our RapidOne model which we are now taking the thing that we believe we uniquely have, which is the thousands of customers that have given us permission To use their aggregated anonymized d…”
Muhammad Alam Dec 9, 2025 ▶ 26:01 SAP's Muhammad Alam: AI's Real Employment Impact, Path To Genuine ROI, Is Hype Good?
NO PRIORS Disclosure
Ramaswamy: Snowflake is not trying to replace SAP or Salesforce
“On the other hand, it's absurd if we think we are SAP or Salesforce. We are not. There are, you know, somebody managing a hundred billion dollar supply chain ecosystem with a complicated software provider isn't saying, hey, I'm going to use SI and I don't need…”
Sridhar Ramaswamy Nov 6, 2025 ▶ 12:19 No Priors Ep. 139 | With Snowflake CEO Sridhar Ramaswamy
NO PRIORS Insight
Arora: Cybersecurity must consolidate into single platforms like CRM and ERP
“Nobody has two sales forces deployed in an enterprise. Nobody has two workdays deployed in an enterprise. Nobody has two SAPs deployed in an enterprise. Why? Because you need end to end visibility, a singular workflow, a singular set of analytics to solve the …”
Nikesh Arora Oct 2, 2025 ▶ 52:38 No Priors | With Palo Alto Networks CEO & Former Chief Business Officer of Google Nikesh Arora
THE PITCH Assertion Not checkable as stated
Finecto can fully integrate enterprise customers in four weeks, says founder
“I remember my last experience An integration process could take over a year. It's super difficult. So when we did this, right now we were able to have a customer fully integrated, yes, for weeks.”
Ariel Puga Sep 24, 2025 ▶ 7:08 How Latin American Founders Keep Their Deals Alive
Horing: Long implementation times inherently slow company growth and customer decisions
“And SAP has massive value to that customer base, but it's a very long time to implement. And that's going to just inherently slow down Realistically how fast you can grow both your own ability to succeed with those customers, but also just the decision-making …”
Jeff Horing Sep 16, 2025 ▶ 17:32 5 Ingredients for the Perfect Investment | Jeff Horing Interview · Invest Like The Best
Horing: Software defensibility is a business knowledge barrier, not technology
“Because that's not what software ever was. It was never a technology barrier. It was always a business knowledge barrier.”
Jeff Horing Sep 16, 2025 ▶ 1:32:20 5 Ingredients for the Perfect Investment | Jeff Horing Interview · Invest Like The Best
TBPN Opinion
Palantir is the only real German-linked tech company created since SAP.
“The most important Germanic company. I hope someone from Germany is listening to this Compte aus Palo Alto is Peter Thiel und ich. It's like the only German company since SAP that's real. They won't listen to us.”
Alex Karp Sep 6, 2025 ▶ 32:56 Weekly Recap: Tesla's Crazy Plan, USA vs. Google, Palantir CEO on Conspiracy Theories
TBPN Opinion
Karp: Palantir is the only real Germanic company built since SAP
“The most important Germanic company, I hope someone from Germany is listening to this kommt aus Palo Alto. It's Peter Thiel und ich. It's like the only German company since SAP that's real.”
Alex Karp Sep 4, 2025 ▶ 18:57 Palantir CEO Alex Karp on conspiracy theories, short sellers & advice for young people.
Chandra: Enterprise clients will not rip out SAP or ERP systems
“By and large, our clients are not going to be ripping out SAP. They're not going to be ripping out their ERP system, right?”
Ryan Chandra Aug 8, 2025 ▶ 32:21 Accelerating AI & Enterprise Innovation: Accenture Ventures’ Strategic Investments
20VC Assertion Supported
Halligan: Shopify is the only SaaS stock outperforming Oracle and SAP
“If you go from that date and you look at you look at Oracle and you look at SAP, they're both growing, like, 230%. The only SaaS company since August 22 It's growing faster. Shopify. They're growing 300%. So they're outpacing HubSpot, Salesforce, Adobe Box, At…”
Brian Halligan Aug 7, 2025 ▶ 1:00:57 Figma's 250% Pop - The Greatest IPO Mispricing Ever? Meta & Microsoft Blowout Quarters: Broken Down · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Heiss: Canceled SAP contract because SAP wanted to sell user data
“We had a contract with SAP, which I canceled because I figured out that they wanted to sell our users data, which is, I said, no, there's no way.”
Manfred Heiss Jun 11, 2025 ▶ 26:03 Empowering Vehicle Owners: Automotive Data Ownership & Monetization with MyAutoData
20VC Opinion
Odoo's product is years ahead of Microsoft and SAP
“I think our product is years ahead of the competition. There is no way they can do what we do.”
Fabien Pinckaers Feb 12, 2025 ▶ 20:06 Fabien Pinckaers, CEO @Odoo: The Billionaire Founder Who Doesn’t Care About Money | E1259 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
20VC Opinion
SAP and Microsoft enterprise software is shitty, slow, and expensive
“On the market, you have two types of market. You have the large players, like SAP and Microsoft. They do several applications, but it's shitty, it's slow, it's expensive. And people are not happy using it.”
Fabien Pinckaers Feb 12, 2025 ▶ 40:41 Fabien Pinckaers, CEO @Odoo: The Billionaire Founder Who Doesn’t Care About Money | E1259 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
20VC Assertion Not publicly verifiable
Fabien Pinckaers bought domain sorrysep.com at age 26 to target SAP
“When I was 26, I purchased the domain name sorrysep.com, because I thought that one day I would be much bigger than them, and then I would use this domain name.”
Fabien Pinckaers Feb 12, 2025 ▶ 45:23 Fabien Pinckaers, CEO @Odoo: The Billionaire Founder Who Doesn’t Care About Money | E1259 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
20VC Assertion Open
Odoo put 'sorry SAP' homepage live for Odoo Version 14
“Yeah, we used it when we released the version 14, I guess because that was a really good version that was, I mean, my opinion, much better than SAP at the time, so we used the domain name, we replaced the homepage with one big word, sorry SAP.”
Fabien Pinckaers Feb 12, 2025 ▶ 45:47 Fabien Pinckaers, CEO @Odoo: The Billionaire Founder Who Doesn’t Care About Money | E1259 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
20VC Prediction Open · timeframe Feb 2045
Odoo will displace SAP within 10 to 20 years
“First, I think it's just a matter of time. I think I don't know how they can survive to what's coming in from them. We have so much advance, years in our head, we are stealing so much clients to them, that it's just a matter of time for me. But it's gonna take…”
Fabien Pinckaers Feb 12, 2025 ▶ 46:25 Fabien Pinckaers, CEO @Odoo: The Billionaire Founder Who Doesn’t Care About Money | E1259 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
20VC Assertion Not checkable as stated
SAP failed in the small and mid-sized business market
“On small and mid-sized, they failed. On the large companies, they are still the main option.”
Fabien Pinckaers Feb 12, 2025 ▶ 47:00 Fabien Pinckaers, CEO @Odoo: The Billionaire Founder Who Doesn’t Care About Money | E1259 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
20VC Prediction Not checkable as stated
Odoo and ERP challengers will grow much faster than Salesforce and SAP
“I think same as SAP, most of the, these companies have still a good way to, I mean, you, they will continue. But other challenges like us will grow much faster.”
Fabien Pinckaers Feb 12, 2025 ▶ 56:00 Fabien Pinckaers, CEO @Odoo: The Billionaire Founder Who Doesn’t Care About Money | E1259 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
20VC Opinion
SAP's S/4HANA ERP product is a disaster, says Odoo CEO
“Thanks for Sapphorana, which is a disaster. Nobody wants to go. So that opens the door to new entrants like us.”
Fabien Pinckaers Feb 12, 2025 ▶ 1:00:07 Fabien Pinckaers, CEO @Odoo: The Billionaire Founder Who Doesn’t Care About Money | E1259 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
TOP FOUNDERS Assertion Partly supported
Singh: 20-Year Public SaaS Median Multiple is 5.5x to 6x NTM Revenue
“The long-term SaaS index for literally 20 years, since SAP and Oracle started disclosing their recurring revenues, has always been around five and a half to six times the XTM revenue. That is the median of the public companies.”
Savneet Singh Jan 14, 2025 ▶ 16:16 NYSE: PAR CEO Savneet Singh Shares How He Great from $200m/yr to $400m/yr
20VC Prediction Didn’t hold up
Dines: Salesforce and SAP Will Limit AI Agents to Own Platforms
“What's the interest of Salesforce to provide amazing connections to SAP and vice versa? No, it's not. So they will focus on building agents that work specifically for workloads that stay within their platforms.”
Daniel Dines Dec 18, 2024 ▶ 21:18 Daniel Dines, UiPath CEO & Founder: Why Agents Do Not Mean RPA is F*** | E1240 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
NO PRIORS Opinion
Huang: Incumbent SaaS platforms will flourish with AI agents, not be disrupted
“People, people say that these SaaS platforms are going to be disrupted. I actually think the opposite. That they're sitting on a gold mine, that, that they're going to be this flourishing of agents that are going to be specialized in Salesforce specialized in,…”
Jensen Huang Nov 7, 2024 ▶ 30:35 No Priors Ep. 89 | With NVIDIA CEO Jensen Huang
SAASTR Assertion Supported
Dholakia: Accenture made $3 for every $1 of SAP software sold
“Accenture made three dollars for every dollar that SAP sold in software because there was so much to do around change management.”
Sameer Dholakia Oct 11, 2024 ▶ 24:58 State of the Cloud: The Cloud AI Era with Bessemer Venture Partners
Singh: Beloved point products trade at lower multiples than platforms like ADP and SAP
“Whether it's, like, a DocuSign or a Zoom or all the ones I just talked about, like, and look at what they trade at. They trade at, like, three times revenue. You know, these are, DocuSigns are great products. Zoom is a great product, but they trade at the shit…”
Savneet Singh Jul 23, 2024 ▶ 19:04 39 Year Old Public SaaS CEO Doubles Revenue to $400m Over the Last 24 Months - His Genius M&A Playbook
FOUNDER'S JOURNAL Assertion Supported
Lieberman: Salesforce followed Christensen's disruption playbook exactly
“Salesforce followed Christensen's disruption theory to a T, first offering their lower-priced cloud CRM product to small businesses, who are used to using pen and paper to keep track of customers because the Cybele and SAPs of the world were far too expensive …”
Alex Lieberman Feb 5, 2024 ▶ 12:53 Why The Next Big Thing Looks Like a Toy? Ft. Apple Vision Pro
20VC Assertion Partly supported
Adamic Scaled Concur From $50M to $1B Revenue Before SAP Acquisition
“I joined when we were about 500 people, and about 50 or sixty million dollars in sales and we grew back to almost a billion dollars before we were bought by SAP.”
Doug Adamic Sep 8, 2023 ▶ 2:14 Doug Adamic: Why Discounting is BS; How to Reduce Sales Cycles and Create Urgency | E1058 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
IN DEPTH Insight
Kracov: Early startups look bigger by copying enterprise website architectures
“You can just feel so much bigger than you are if you nail your website. And so if you would just invest a little bit more into the design of your website, but if you even also make your website like bigger, right? Go look, you know, extreme examples, go look a…”
Alex Kracov Aug 10, 2023 ▶ 13:12 The Zero to One B2B marketing playbook | Alex Kracov (Lattice, Dock)

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