People
Everyone on the record. Click any column header to sort the whole table, hover a header for what the column means, and click through for the full record. Corpus average certainty is 3.9/5; deltas show each person against it. Argument clarity carries a full score for 56 people (gold bar, raw unedited tape) and a coarse estimate for 64 more (blue bar). Roles and titles are extracted from the episodes themselves: they are as of the recording, and people move on, so some are out of date today.
| Person | Eps | Statements | Claims | Supported | Partly supported | Contradicted | Full support rate | Certainty | Argument clarity | WPM | Fillers/1k |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Jeetu Patel ×2 President & CPO, Cisco | 2 | 28 | 12 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 100% 2/2 | 3.86/5 -0.0 | — | 276 | 19.3 |
 John Markoff Distinguished Fellow, Stanford Institute for HAI | 1 | 28 | 23 | 10 | 1 | 3 | 71% 10/14 | 3.96/5 +0.1 | 4.0 | 267 | 25 |
| Kristen Fortney ×3 Co-Founder & CEO, BioAge Labs | 3 | 28 | 22 | 12 | 5 | 2 | 63% 12/19 | 3.93/5 +0.0 | — | 287 | 13.6 |
| Mark McClusky Author, Wired | 1 | 28 | 21 | 9 | 2 | 5 | 56% 9/16 | 3.86/5 -0.0 | — | 267 | 17.1 |
 Neal Stephenson ×2 Co-Founder and Chairman, Lamina1 | 2 | 28 | 14 | 2 | 0 | 1 | 67% 2/3 | 3.71/5 -0.2 | 4.5 | 204 | 46.2 |
| Augusto Marietti ×2 CEO & Co-Founder, Kong | 2 | 27 | 15 | 2 | 1 | 1 | 50% 2/4 | 4.3/5 +0.4 | — | 277 | 16.8 |
| Erin Price-Wright ×9 General Partner, a16z | 9 | 27 | 23 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 33% 2/6 | 3.74/5 -0.2 | — | 245 | 20.3 |
| Salim Ismail Founder & Chairman, OpenExO | 1 | 27 | 21 | 4 | 3 | 2 | 44% 4/9 | 4.11/5 +0.2 | ≈4.5 | 252 | 10.4 |
| Adam Bry ×3 Co-Founder & CEO, Skydio | 3 | 26 | 13 | 6 | 1 | 0 | 86% 6/7 | 3.69/5 -0.2 | — | 271 | 24.5 |
 David Sacks Founding General Partner, Craft Ventures | 1 | 26 | 21 | 5 | 1 | 1 | 71% 5/7 | 3.69/5 -0.2 | 4.2 | 284 | 37.2 |
| James Rogers ×3 Founder & Board Member, Apeel Sciences | 3 | 26 | 21 | 8 | 3 | 1 | 67% 8/12 | 3.92/5 +0.0 | — | 244 | 11 |
| Li Jin ×3 Co-founder and General Partner, Variant | 3 | 26 | 16 | 8 | 2 | 0 | 80% 8/10 | 3.65/5 -0.2 | — | 204 | 37.6 |
| Nathan Labenz Host, The Cognitive Revolution | 1 | 26 | 20 | 9 | 1 | 0 | 90% 9/10 | 3.73/5 -0.2 | ≈4.0 | 286 | 15.7 |
| Ryan Chi Researcher, OpenAI | 1 | 26 | 11 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 100% 1/1 | 3.77/5 -0.1 | — | ||
 Vas Narasimhan CEO, Novartis | 1 | 26 | 13 | 4 | 1 | 1 | 67% 4/6 | 4/5 +0.1 | 4.4 | 249 | 13.8 |
| Adam Grant Professor of Management, Wharton | 1 | 25 | 14 | 8 | 1 | 1 | 80% 8/10 | 3.88/5 -0.0 | ≈4.5 | ≈267 | ≥2.9 |
 Alexandr Wang Chief AI Officer, Meta Platforms | 1 | 25 | 14 | 0 | 0 | 0 | — | 3.68/5 -0.2 | — | 271 | 44.5 |
 Andrew Bosworth Chief Technology Officer, Meta | 1 | 25 | 17 | 4 | 0 | 0 | 100% 4/4 | 3.8/5 -0.1 | — | 303 | 18.6 |
| D'Arcy Coolican ×2 Angel Investor & Founder | 2 | 25 | 7 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0% 0/1 | 3.4/5 -0.5 | — | 264 | 12.4 |
 Daphne Koller ×2 Founder and CEO, insitro | 2 | 25 | 14 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0% 0/1 | 4.16/5 +0.3 | — | 242 | 15 |
| Deb Liu ×2 Co-Founder, Ember AI | 2 | 25 | 11 | 8 | 0 | 0 | 100% 8/8 | 4.08/5 +0.2 | — | ≈281 | ≥2.8 |
 George Church Professor of Genetics, Harvard Medical School | 1 | 25 | 12 | 8 | 3 | 0 | 73% 8/11 | 3.92/5 +0.0 | — | ≈242 | ≥2.1 |
 Kathleen Hicks Distinguished Fellow, Chicago Council on Global Affairs | 1 | 25 | 19 | 4 | 1 | 0 | 80% 4/5 | 4/5 +0.1 | — | 223 | 36 |
 Peter Thiel Partner and Co-Founder, Founders Fund | 1 | 25 | 11 | 2 | 2 | 1 | 40% 2/5 | 3.64/5 -0.3 | — | 277 | 56.2 |
 Shonda Rhimes Founder and CEO, Shondaland | 1 | 25 | 10 | 4 | 0 | 0 | 100% 4/4 | 4.2/5 +0.3 | — | 294 | 12.4 |
| Vishal Misra ×2 Professor of Computer Science, Columbia University | 2 | 25 | 13 | 5 | 0 | 0 | 100% 5/5 | 4.32/5 +0.4 | — | 250 | 25.2 |
| Adam Ludwin Founder, here.now | 1 | 24 | 18 | 3 | 2 | 1 | 50% 3/6 | 3.88/5 -0.0 | — | 259 | 36.3 |
| Ale Massa Chief Product & AI Officer, Kavak | 1 | 24 | 12 | 0 | 0 | 0 | — | 3.92/5 +0.0 | — | 243 | 14.2 |
| Daisy Wolf ×2 Partner, a16z Bio + Health | 2 | 24 | 15 | 4 | 3 | 2 | 44% 4/9 | 3.83/5 -0.1 | ≈4.5 | 242 | 12.3 |
| Dan Wang Research Fellow, Hoover Institution | 1 | 24 | 20 | 5 | 5 | 1 | 45% 5/11 | 3.75/5 -0.1 | — | 237 | 52.3 |
 Dr. Eric Topol Founder & Director, Scripps Research Translational Institute | 1 | 24 | 20 | 10 | 3 | 1 | 71% 10/14 | 3.92/5 +0.0 | — | 223 | 23.9 |
| Gabriel Ott ×3 Co-Founder and CEO, Dinari | 3 | 24 | 18 | 4 | 2 | 2 | 50% 4/8 | 3.96/5 +0.1 | — | 234 | 22.5 |
| Ken Kocienda Co-Founder & CTO, Infactory | 1 | 24 | 15 | 4 | 1 | 0 | 80% 4/5 | 4.21/5 +0.3 | — | 256 | 46.4 |
 Kevin Kelly ×2 Senior Maverick, Wired | 2 | 24 | 16 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 100% 1/1 | 3.67/5 -0.2 | — | 258 | 14.1 |
| Linda Xie Co-Founder & Managing Director, Scalar Capital | 1 | 24 | 22 | 5 | 0 | 0 | 100% 5/5 | 4/5 +0.1 | — | 259 | 8.7 |
| Oliver Wang Principal Scientist, Google DeepMind | 1 | 24 | 14 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 100% 1/1 | 3.67/5 -0.2 | — | 308 | 22.9 |
| Peter Yang Former Principal Product Lead, Roblox | 1 | 24 | 9 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 100% 1/1 | 3.5/5 -0.4 | — | 370 | 17.7 |
| Sarah Wang ×9 General Partner, Andreessen Horowitz | 9 | 24 | 14 | 4 | 0 | 0 | 100% 4/4 | 3.88/5 -0.0 | 4.3 | 264 | 35.6 |
| Shannon Schiltz ×4 Operating Partner, Andreessen Horowitz | 4 | 24 | 6 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0% 0/1 | 3.96/5 +0.1 | — | 263 | 22.3 |
| Sheriff Kevin McMahill ×2 Sheriff, LVMPD | 2 | 24 | 20 | 3 | 5 | 3 | 27% 3/11 | 4.33/5 +0.4 | — | 260 | 26.2 |
| Vijay Balasubramaniyan ×3 Co-founder & CEO, Pindrop | 3 | 24 | 13 | 6 | 2 | 0 | 75% 6/8 | 4.21/5 +0.3 | — | 226 | 13.8 |
| Will Gaybrick President of Product & Business, Stripe | 1 | 24 | 14 | 1 | 0 | 1 | 50% 1/2 | 3.62/5 -0.3 | — | ||
| Ankit Jain Co-founder & CEO, Infinitus Systems | 1 | 23 | 14 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0% 0/1 | 4.09/5 +0.2 | — | 261 | 20.3 |
| Daniel Litt Assistant Professor of Mathematics, University of Toronto | 1 | 23 | 5 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 100% 2/2 | 3.52/5 -0.4 | — | ||
| Elad Gil Founder, Gil Capital | 1 | 23 | 10 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 50% 1/2 | 3.57/5 -0.3 | — | ≈283 | ≥1 |
| Garrett Langley ×2 Founder & CEO, Flock Safety | 2 | 23 | 18 | 1 | 4 | 4 | 11% 1/9 | 4/5 +0.1 | — | 289 | 10.8 |
 Garry Tan President & CEO, Y Combinator | 1 | 23 | 10 | 1 | 0 | 1 | 50% 1/2 | 3.7/5 -0.2 | — | 257 | 31.1 |
 Jared Isaacman Administrator, NASA | 1 | 23 | 19 | 6 | 1 | 0 | 86% 6/7 | 4.09/5 +0.2 | — | 253 | 16.1 |
| Jeff Schmidt Co-founder and CTO, Nous Research | 1 | 23 | 16 | 3 | 1 | 1 | 60% 3/5 | 3.91/5 +0.0 | — | 268 | 15.2 |
 John Riccitiello Co-owner & Investor, Gratz Pilates | 1 | 23 | 19 | 5 | 0 | 3 | 63% 5/8 | 3.83/5 -0.1 | — | 251 | 13.9 |
| Jonathan Lim CEO & Co-Founder, Erasca | 1 | 23 | 19 | 5 | 1 | 0 | 83% 5/6 | 4/5 +0.1 | — | 228 | 42.9 |
| Michael Rogers | 1 | 23 | 13 | 8 | 0 | 0 | 100% 8/8 | 3.7/5 -0.2 | ≈4.0 | 275 | 14.6 |
| Naveen Rao Co-founder and CEO, Unconventional AI | 1 | 23 | 14 | 3 | 1 | 0 | 75% 3/4 | 3.87/5 -0.0 | — | 289 | 23.8 |
 Reid Hoffman Partner, Greylock | 1 | 23 | 9 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0% 0/1 | 4.04/5 +0.1 | — | 275 | 15.6 |
| Seema Amble ×11 Partner, Andreessen Horowitz | 11 | 23 | 15 | 3 | 1 | 0 | 75% 3/4 | 3.78/5 -0.1 | — | 271 | 28.1 |
 Yuval Noah Harari Professor of History, Hebrew University of Jerusalem | 1 | 23 | 14 | 0 | 0 | 0 | — | 3.78/5 -0.1 | — | 198 | 12.8 |
| Zach Cohen ×2 Co-Founder and CEO, Ease Health | 2 | 23 | 16 | 5 | 1 | 0 | 83% 5/6 | 3.52/5 -0.4 | — | 279 | 21.5 |
| Anastasios Angelopoulos Co-Founder and CEO, Arena | 1 | 22 | 12 | 5 | 0 | 1 | 83% 5/6 | 4.5/5 +0.6 | — | 293 | 7.9 |
 Bill Janeway Special Limited Partner, Warburg Pincus | 1 | 22 | 11 | 3 | 1 | 1 | 60% 3/5 | 4.27/5 +0.4 | — | ≈203 | ≥5.5 |
 Earvin "Magic" Johnson Chairman and CEO, Magic Johnson Enterprises | 1 | 22 | 13 | 6 | 2 | 0 | 75% 6/8 | 4.36/5 +0.5 | — | 229 | 41.8 |
| Jesse Zhang Co-Founder and CEO, Decagon | 1 | 22 | 7 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 100% 1/1 | 3.73/5 -0.2 | — | 302 | 14.6 |
| Mark Casey Equity Portfolio Manager, Capital Group | 1 | 22 | 8 | 2 | 1 | 0 | 67% 2/3 | 4.05/5 +0.2 | — | 278 | 18 |
| Mina Song Co-founder & CEO, EliseAI | 1 | 22 | 17 | 0 | 3 | 0 | 0% 0/3 | 3.73/5 -0.2 | 4.5 | 232 | 21.7 |
| Sharon Chang ×3 Partner, a16z | 3 | 22 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | — | 3.91/5 +0.0 | — | ≈233 | ≥3.1 |
 Vlad Tenev Co-Founder & CEO, Robinhood | 1 | 22 | 13 | 3 | 0 | 0 | 100% 3/3 | 3.95/5 +0.1 | — | 244 | 16.2 |
| Aram Verdian Partner, Accolade Partners | 1 | 21 | 14 | 3 | 3 | 0 | 50% 3/6 | 3.71/5 -0.2 | — | ||
| Brian Koppelman Screenwriter, Director & Showrunner | 1 | 21 | 3 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 100% 1/1 | 4.24/5 +0.3 | — | 300 | 12.2 |
 Carl Pei Founder & CEO, Nothing | 1 | 21 | 8 | 1 | 0 | 1 | 50% 1/2 | 3.71/5 -0.2 | — | 264 | 14.9 |
| Christina Kim Researcher, OpenAI | 1 | 21 | 8 | 1 | 0 | 1 | 50% 1/2 | 3.57/5 -0.3 | 4.1 | 315 | 19.3 |
| David Reich Professor of Genetics, Harvard Medical School | 1 | 21 | 19 | 15 | 2 | 0 | 88% 15/17 | 4.05/5 +0.2 | — | ≈219 | ≥1.4 |
 Dr. Christine Darden Former Aerospace Engineer & Executive, NASA | 1 | 21 | 14 | 7 | 1 | 1 | 78% 7/9 | 4/5 +0.1 | — | 237 | 20 |
| Jesse Walden ×4 Founder & Managing Partner, Variant | 4 | 21 | 4 | 3 | 0 | 0 | 100% 3/3 | 3.71/5 -0.2 | — | 247 | 21.6 |
| Juan Benet ×2 Founder & CEO, Protocol Labs | 2 | 21 | 14 | 7 | 0 | 1 | 88% 7/8 | 3.86/5 -0.0 | — | 295 | 10.6 |
 Kate Darling Research Lead, RAI Institute | 1 | 21 | 13 | 7 | 0 | 0 | 100% 7/7 | 3.81/5 -0.1 | — | ≈213 | ≥0.9 |
 Laila Janah Founder & CEO, Samasource | 1 | 21 | 4 | 0 | 0 | 0 | — | 3.71/5 -0.2 | 4.2 | 232 | 14.5 |
| Owen Jennings Business Lead, Block | 1 | 21 | 12 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 50% 1/2 | 3.76/5 -0.1 | — | 259 | 27.3 |
| Patrick Hsu Co-Founder and Core Investigator, Arc Institute | 1 | 21 | 12 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 50% 1/2 | 3.71/5 -0.2 | 4.1 | 235 | 13.5 |
 Rick Rubin Record Producer and Author | 1 | 21 | 6 | 0 | 0 | 0 | — | 4/5 +0.1 | — | 253 | 12.5 |
| Stephanie Cohen Chief Strategy Officer, Cloudflare | 1 | 21 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | — | 3.71/5 -0.2 | — | ≈291 | ≥2.6 |
| Zeno Rocha Founder & CEO, Resend | 1 | 21 | 11 | 2 | 1 | 0 | 67% 2/3 | 3.9/5 +0.0 | — | 251 | 16.5 |
| Ashwin Sreenivas Co-Founder & CTO, Decagon | 1 | 20 | 5 | 0 | 0 | 0 | — | 3.65/5 -0.2 | — | 266 | 21.2 |
| Daniel Shapero Chief Executive Officer, LinkedIn | 1 | 20 | 4 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 50% 1/2 | 3.9/5 +0.0 | — | 271 | 24 |
 Evan Osnos Staff Writer, The New Yorker | 1 | 20 | 9 | 3 | 0 | 0 | 100% 3/3 | 4/5 +0.1 | ≈4.5 | ≈261 | ≥3.9 |
| James Beshara ×3 Co-Founder, Magic Mind | 3 | 20 | 14 | 2 | 1 | 1 | 50% 2/4 | 3.8/5 -0.1 | ≈4.0 | 262 | 24.3 |
| Jason Feifer Editor-in-Chief, Entrepreneur Magazine | 1 | 20 | 8 | 3 | 1 | 1 | 60% 3/5 | 3.85/5 -0.0 | 4.3 | 255 | 16.8 |
| Jez Humble Member of Technical Staff, Anthropic | 1 | 20 | 10 | 6 | 0 | 0 | 100% 6/6 | 4/5 +0.1 | — | ≈267 | ≥2.3 |
| Kaz (Kaz Nejatian) CEO, Opendoor | 1 | 20 | 9 | 2 | 3 | 1 | 33% 2/6 | 3.75/5 -0.1 | — | 309 | 12.2 |
| Matt Biilmann ×2 Co-Founder & CEO, Netlify | 2 | 20 | 12 | 0 | 0 | 0 | — | 3.75/5 -0.1 | — | ≈276 | ≥1.2 |
 Mellody Hobson Co-CEO and President, Ariel Investments | 1 | 20 | 9 | 3 | 3 | 2 | 38% 3/8 | 4.2/5 +0.3 | — | 275 | 10.2 |
 Parag Khanna Founder & CEO, AlphaGeo | 1 | 20 | 18 | 6 | 5 | 3 | 43% 6/14 | 3.85/5 -0.0 | 4.2 | 254 | 13.4 |
 Penny Pritzker Founder and Chairman, PSP Partners | 1 | 20 | 19 | 9 | 2 | 2 | 69% 9/13 | 3.8/5 -0.1 | — | 223 | 18 |
| Russ Fraden Founder, Larridin | 1 | 20 | 12 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 50% 1/2 | 3.95/5 +0.1 | — | 298 | 3.8 |
| Scott Clark ×2 Co-Founder and CEO, Distributional | 2 | 20 | 8 | 0 | 0 | 0 | — | 3.9/5 +0.0 | — | ≈244 | ≥4.8 |
| Seth Sivak VP of Product, Bad Robot Games | 1 | 20 | 11 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 100% 2/2 | 3.8/5 -0.1 | — | 293 | 22.4 |
 Steven B. Johnson ×2 Editorial Director, NotebookLM, Google | 2 | 20 | 10 | 2 | 1 | 1 | 50% 2/4 | 3.85/5 -0.0 | — | 282 | 8.4 |
 Stina Ehrensvärd ×2 Co-Founder & Chief Evangelist, Yubico | 2 | 20 | 13 | 4 | 1 | 0 | 80% 4/5 | 4.15/5 +0.3 | — | ≈244 | ≥1.6 |
| William Mougayar Author & Investor | 1 | 20 | 11 | 3 | 0 | 0 | 100% 3/3 | 3.8/5 -0.1 | — | 231 | 46.6 |
| Andy Tran Principal, Matrix Capital Management | 1 | 19 | 14 | 8 | 0 | 1 | 89% 8/9 | 3.68/5 -0.2 | — | ≈236 | ≥0.2 |
 Fred Wilson Partner & Co-founder, Union Square Ventures | 1 | 19 | 7 | 1 | 2 | 0 | 33% 1/3 | 3.58/5 -0.3 | — | 252 | 11.4 |
| Jason Rosenthal ×2 Operating Partner, a16z crypto | 2 | 19 | 7 | 2 | 1 | 0 | 67% 2/3 | 3.95/5 +0.1 | — | 263 | 20.1 |
Why this person has no speaking number
We measure speaking style by listening to the audio itself: a model transcribes the tape verbatim, every "um" and "uh" kept, and articulation rate comes from the word timings. A fair number needs at least 2,000 words from one person on tape we have measured, and we have less of them than that. A rate from a smaller sample would be noise, so we print nothing. It says nothing about how they speak.
A plain figure in these columns comes from raw-level tape. A dim figure with ≈ or ≥ comes from the aired feed of an edited show, where the editor cut some hesitation before release, so it is a floor. How it's measured →
eps counts appearances on the record; compilation re-airs and clips rolled into someone else's episode are left out, the same rule as the person page. statements counts everything they said on the record, the same number their page shows, compilation re-airs included. claims is the checkable subset: predictions and assertions, the statements the public record can support or contradict. Only claims can resolve to supported, partly supported or contradicted; claims not yet resolved are not yet assessed or name nothing precise enough to check, and re-air statements are never scored. full support rate = fully supported ÷ resolved, where resolved = supported + partly supported + contradicted, so partly supported claims sit in the denominator. Sorting that column puts records of five or more resolved claims first, so a 12/13 record outranks a lucky 3/3; percentages on fewer than 5 resolved statements are greyed. argument clarity = a 1–5 score against a rubric (directness, coherence, precision, compression), assessed with names hidden on question→answer exchanges. A gold bar is a full score: 8 or more exchanges on raw, unedited tape. A blue bar with ≈ is a coarse estimate at half point precision, pooled from whatever assessed exchanges exist when a full score is impossible; produced feed audio scores about 0.3 higher, which is why estimates stay coarse. A “—” never means zero. It means fewer than 3 scorable exchanges of that person exist anywhere (roundtables and news formats yield very few). Hover any bar or “—” for the exact basis. Argument clarity is a score, and we do not rank people on it: nobody is “worst”, and everyone scored has a number. WPM and fillers/1k are measurements of speaking style, made by listening to the audio itself rather than reading the cleaned transcript. They are not scores: across this corpus fluency and argument quality are nearly uncorrelated (ρ≈0.2). WPM is articulation rate while actually speaking, pauses excluded. A plain figure comes from raw-level tape. A dim ≈ or ≥ figure comes from the aired feed of an edited show, where some hesitation was cut before release, so the fillers figure there is a floor. A ? means under 2,000 words of measured tape.