Vishal Misra

Professor of Computer Science, Columbia University · 2 appearances on the record.

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Vishal Misra is a Professor of Computer Science and Vice Dean of Computing and AI at Columbia University. An IEEE and ACM Fellow, he also co-founded Cricinfo and the datacenter storage startup Infinio.

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2 predictions · 11 assertions · 2 opinions · 9 insights · 1 what if · every statement was checked. The predictions and assertions are the 13 claims: statements the public record can support or contradict. 5 are resolved, 1 is not yet assessed, and 7 name no date, number or outcome precise enough to check. Everything else (opinions, insights, what ifs, disclosures) can never be settled by the record, so it carries no assessment.

The record, in short

What the tape says about how Vishal argues and how the claims held up. Everything they said, and everything said about them, is in the tabs below.

Their most notable supported claim

Assertion Supported
Transformers compute precise Bayesian posteriors down to 10^-3 bits accuracy
“We trained these models and we found that the transformer got the precise Bayesian posterior down to 10 to the power minus three bits accuracy. It was matching the distribution perfectly. So it is actually doing Bayesian in the mathematical sense, given a task…”
Vishal Misra Mar 17, 2026 ▶ 20:44 Why Scale Will Not Solve AGI | Vishal Misra - The a16z Show

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How they sound: speaking style how? →

250 words/min while actually speaking · 25.2 um and uh per 1k words · 18.6 false starts per 1k · 28.9% of pauses land inside a clause

No argument clarity score for Vishal Misra: only 2 usable question→answer exchanges on raw tape (a fair score needs 8+). We do not score a sample that small. Roundtable and news formats yield far fewer direct exchanges than interviews.

Measured by listening to the audio itself: 10,969 words across 2 episodes of raw-level tape, transcribed verbatim with every um and uh kept, each one attributed only where the alignment onto our timed stream is unambiguous. These are measurements of speaking style. We do not rank them: across this corpus, fluency and argument quality are nearly uncorrelated (ρ≈0.2), and smooth talking does not signal clear thinking. How it's measured →

Everything Vishal Misra said on the a16z Podcast that made the record, most notable first. Filter by type, assessment or year in the ledger →

Assertion Not checkable as stated
Misra: LLMs are just silicon doing matrix multiplication, not conscious beings
“You can rule out they're conscious. I mean, come on. And I said, you know, Anthropic makes great products. Cloud code is fantastic. Co-work is fantastic, but they are grains of silicon doing matrix multiplication. They don't have consciousness. They don't have…”
Vishal Misra Mar 17, 2026 ▶ 26:07 Why Scale Will Not Solve AGI | Vishal Misra - The a16z Show
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Misra: Scale will not solve everything; AGI requires a different architecture
“One of the misconceptions that exists today is that scale will solve everything. Scale will not solve everything. You need a different kind of architecture, and this continual learning is a difficult problem.”
Vishal Misra Mar 17, 2026 ▶ 31:09 Why Scale Will Not Solve AGI | Vishal Misra - The a16z Show
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Misra: Current LLM architectures cannot recursively self-improve into new paradigms
“That kind of self-improvement is not possible with these architectures. They can refine these. They can fill out these rows where the answer already exists.”
Vishal Misra Oct 13, 2025 ▶ 32:10 Will LLMs Get Us To AGI?
Assertion Supported
Transformers compute precise Bayesian posteriors down to 10^-3 bits accuracy
“We trained these models and we found that the transformer got the precise Bayesian posterior down to 10 to the power minus three bits accuracy. It was matching the distribution perfectly. So it is actually doing Bayesian in the mathematical sense, given a task…”
Vishal Misra Mar 17, 2026 ▶ 20:44 Why Scale Will Not Solve AGI | Vishal Misra - The a16z Show
Assertion Supported
Transformers perform all Bayesian tasks, Mamba does most, and MLPs fail
“Transformer does everything. Mamba does most of it. LSTMs do only partially, and MLPs fail completely.”
Vishal Misra Mar 17, 2026 ▶ 21:13 Why Scale Will Not Solve AGI | Vishal Misra - The a16z Show
Insight
Misra: Deep learning performs correlation rather than causation
“All of deep learning is, ah, doing correlations. It's not doing causation. Causal models are the ones that are able to do simulations and intervention.”
Vishal Misra Mar 17, 2026 ▶ 28:03 Why Scale Will Not Solve AGI | Vishal Misra - The a16z Show
Insight
Deep learning remains in the Shannon entropy world, lacking Kolmogorov complexity
“I think deep learning is still in the Shannon entropy world. It has not crossed over to the Kolmogorov complexity and the causal world.”
Vishal Misra Mar 17, 2026 ▶ 30:07 Why Scale Will Not Solve AGI | Vishal Misra - The a16z Show
Insight
Misra: AGI requires real-time plasticity and causal world models
“To get to what is called AGI, I think there are two things that need to happen. One is this plasticity. Which has to be implemented through container learning. Secondly, we have to move from correlation to causation.”
Vishal Misra Mar 17, 2026 ▶ 31:46 Why Scale Will Not Solve AGI | Vishal Misra - The a16z Show
Prediction Open · timeframe Mar 2031
An LLM trained on pre-1916 physics will never derive general relativity
“Take an LLM and train it on pre-nineteen-sixteen or nineteen-eleven physics and see if it can come up with the theory of relativity. If it does, then we have AGI. I mean, it's a high bar, but, you know, we should have high bars. It won't.”
Vishal Misra Mar 17, 2026 ▶ 32:31 Why Scale Will Not Solve AGI | Vishal Misra - The a16z Show
Opinion
Misra: AGI requires generating new science beyond training data
“AGI will be when we are able to create new science, new results, new math. When an AGI comes up with a theory of relativity, it has to go beyond what it has been trained on. To come up with new paradigms, new science. That's my definition of AGI.”
Vishal Misra Oct 13, 2025 ▶ 0:16 Will LLMs Get Us To AGI?
Insight
Misra: LLM output is bounded by the inductive closure of training data
“So you know another phrase that we have been using recently is, you know, the output of the LLM is the inductive closure of what it has been trained on.”
Vishal Misra Oct 13, 2025 ▶ 28:53 Will LLMs Get Us To AGI?
Insight
Misra: Adding data to LLMs cannot create new mathematical manifolds
“There has to be an architectural lead that is able to create these manifolds and just throwing new data will not do it. It'll just smoothen out the already existing manifolds.”
Vishal Misra Oct 13, 2025 ▶ 37:47 Will LLMs Get Us To AGI?
Opinion
Misra: Prompt engineering is prompt twiddling, not true engineering
“One term I really dislike is prompt engineering. You know, engineering used to mean sending a man to the moon or providing five nines reliability. Prompt engineering is prompt twiddling.”
Vishal Misra Oct 13, 2025 ▶ 43:49 Will LLMs Get Us To AGI?
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Misra claims he built the first known implementation of RAG using GPT-3
“And I got GPD three to do in context learning, few short learning, and you know, it was kind of the First, at least to me, it was the first known implementation of RAG, Retrieval Augmented Generation, which I used to solve this problem of querying, getting GPT…”
Vishal Misra Mar 17, 2026 ▶ 1:20 Why Scale Will Not Solve AGI | Vishal Misra - The a16z Show
Insight
Misra: LLMs function as compressed representations of prompt-probability matrices
“So in kind of an abstract way, what all these LLMs are doing is coming, coming up with a compressed representation of this matrix. And when you give a prompt, They try to approximate what the true distribution should have been and try to generate it.”
Vishal Misra Mar 17, 2026 ▶ 7:22 Why Scale Will Not Solve AGI | Vishal Misra - The a16z Show
Assertion Supported
Misra: Geometric Bayesian signatures persist in large open-weight LLMs
“We took these frontier production LLMs, which have open weights so that we could look inside them. And we did our testing and we saw that the geometries that we saw in the small models persisted in models, which are, you know, hundreds of millions of parameter…”
Vishal Misra Mar 17, 2026 ▶ 22:01 Why Scale Will Not Solve AGI | Vishal Misra - The a16z Show
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Misra: LLM deception is driven by training data, not architecture
“That's not a function of the architecture. That's a function of the training data. It has been fed, you know, articles on Reddit or Asimo or whatever.”
Vishal Misra Mar 17, 2026 ▶ 25:47 Why Scale Will Not Solve AGI | Vishal Misra - The a16z Show
What-if
Misra: LLMs trained on pre-1915 physics could not discover relativity
“Any LLM that was trained on pre-nineteen-fifteen physics would never have come up with a theory of relativity.”
Vishal Misra Oct 13, 2025 ▶ 0:00 Will LLMs Get Us To AGI?
Insight
Misra: Pure language processing is insufficient for human-level intelligence
“Language is great, but language is not the answer. You know, when I'm looking at catching a ball that is coming to me, I'm mentally doing that simulation in my head. I'm not translating it to language to figure out where it'll land.”
Vishal Misra Oct 13, 2025 ▶ 39:22 Will LLMs Get Us To AGI?
Assertion Not checkable as stated
ESPN deployed a GPT-3 database query system in production in September 2021
“We deployed this In production at ESPN in September, 21.”
Vishal Misra Mar 17, 2026 ▶ 1:55 Why Scale Will Not Solve AGI | Vishal Misra - The a16z Show
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Misra: LLMs hallucinate when straying from learned Bayesian manifolds
“And as long as the LLM is going in sort of traversing through these manifolds, it is confident. And it can produce something which is, which makes sense. The moment it sort of wears away from the manifold, then it starts hallucinating and start spotting nonsen…”
Vishal Misra Oct 13, 2025 ▶ 4:28 Will LLMs Get Us To AGI?
Insight
Misra: Chain-of-thought prompting works by reducing LLM prediction entropy
“That's why chain of heart works. What happens with chain of thought is you ask the LLM to do something chain of thought. It starts breaking the problem into small steps. These steps it has seen in the past. It has been trained on maybe with some different numb…”
Vishal Misra Oct 13, 2025 ▶ 10:12 Will LLMs Get Us To AGI?
Assertion Supported
LLM prompt combinations exceed the number of electrons in the universe
“If you look at all possible combinations of 8000 tokens and 50,000, ah, vocabulary, the number of rows In this matrix is more than the number of electrons across all galaxies, right? So, so there's no way that these LLMs can represent it exactly.”
Vishal Misra Mar 17, 2026 ▶ 6:35 Why Scale Will Not Solve AGI | Vishal Misra - The a16z Show
Insight
Misra: Adding context to prompts reduces LLM prediction entropy
“The moment you add more context. You make the prompt information rich. The prediction entropy reduces.”
Vishal Misra Oct 13, 2025 ▶ 7:28 Will LLMs Get Us To AGI?

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Appearances (2)

EpisodeDateSpeaking time
Why Scale Will Not Solve AGI | Vishal Misra - The a16z Show Mar 17, 2026 30m
Will LLMs Get Us To AGI? Oct 13, 2025 29m
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