Vas Narasimhan

CEO, Novartis · 1 appearance on the record.

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A Harvard-trained physician-scientist, he has led Novartis as CEO since 2018, pivoting the multinational into a pure-play innovative medicines company through strategic deals and the 2023 spinoff of Sandoz. He previously served as Novartis’s Global Head of Drug Development and Chief Medical Officer.

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4 supported 1 partly supported 1 contradicted 1 not yet assessed 6 not checkable as stated how the 13 claims stand · each chip opens the sources

3 predictions · 10 assertions · 3 opinions · 3 insights · 7 disclosures · every statement was checked. The predictions and assertions are the 13 claims: statements the public record can support or contradict. 6 are resolved, 1 is not yet assessed, and 6 name no date, number or outcome precise enough to check. Everything else (opinions, insights, what ifs, disclosures) can never be settled by the record, so it carries no assessment.

The record, in short

What the tape says about how Vas argues and how the claims held up. Everything they said, and everything said about them, is in the tabs below.

Their most notable supported claim

Assertion Supported
Novartis launched first FDA-approved prescription app for opioid addiction
“I mean, one example we launched in the U S a digital medicine. I mean, with paratherapeutics, this is the first digital app with an FDA label that's being used for opioid addiction and other psychiatric illnesses. And it is literally an app That has run clinic…”
Vas Narasimhan Jan 17, 2019 ▶ 13:54 a16z Podcast | The Science and Business of Innovative Medicines

Their most notable contradicted claim

Assertion Contradicted
Narasimhan: RNA therapies are the only way to drug LP(a)
“And so the only way to really target it turns out to be using RNA based therapies. These RNA based therapies are able to block the production of the gene translation of the gene into the protein and then actually reduce the LP little a in the blood.”
Vas Narasimhan Jan 17, 2019 ▶ 25:55 a16z Podcast | The Science and Business of Innovative Medicines

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83% certainty 5

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Argument clarity: do they answer the question? how? →

4.4 / 5 directness 4.4 · coherence 4.8 · precision 4.4 · compression 3.9

redirected or did not address 1 of 17 assessed questions (6%). Watch them ▸

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How they sound: speaking style how? →

249 words/min while actually speaking · 13.8 um and uh per 1k words · 30 false starts per 1k · 30.2% of pauses land inside a clause

Measured by listening to the audio itself: 8,163 words across 1 episode of raw-level tape, transcribed verbatim with every um and uh kept, each one attributed only where the alignment onto our timed stream is unambiguous. These are measurements of speaking style. We do not rank them: across this corpus, fluency and argument quality are nearly uncorrelated (ρ≈0.2), and smooth talking does not signal clear thinking. How it's measured →

Everything Vas Narasimhan said on the a16z Podcast that made the record, most notable first. Filter by type, assessment or year in the ledger →

Assertion Not checkable as stated
AI outperforms internal human analysts at forecasting Novartis product sales
“The other area, interestingly, in the financial area as well, we find that AI does a great job predicting our free cashflow, predicting a lot of our sales for key products, and it does better than our internal people because it doesn't have the biases and the …”
Vas Narasimhan Jan 17, 2019 ▶ 39:16 a16z Podcast | The Science and Business of Innovative Medicines
Prediction Open · timeframe Jan 2039
Viable animal-to-human organ xenotransplantation will arrive within 10 to 20 years
“I think a couple of things will likely come. I think xenotransplantation, I mean, which has been in and out and worked on. And what's interesting is every one of these comes up and down. So, you know, gene therapies, cell therapies popped up in the nineties, k…”
Vas Narasimhan Jan 17, 2019 ▶ 22:42 a16z Podcast | The Science and Business of Innovative Medicines
Opinion
AI in digital health currently offers very little actual impact
“Well, I have to first say, I completely agree about the hype cycle here. I mean, as we've gotten quite scaled and working on digital health and data science, we've learned that there's a lot of talk and very little in terms of actual delivery of impact.”
Vas Narasimhan Jan 17, 2019 ▶ 36:13 a16z Podcast | The Science and Business of Innovative Medicines
Opinion
Real-world evidence cannot replace randomized blinded clinical trials
“The other thing people talk about, but I mean, I'll take a skeptical voice around it, is the ability to use real world evidence to try to get at these things. But as somebody who's worked in clinical trials for most of their time in, in the industry I do belie…”
Vas Narasimhan Jan 17, 2019 ▶ 41:25 a16z Podcast | The Science and Business of Innovative Medicines
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Wearable sensors have failed to meet clinical trial validation standards
“When I think about, first of all, I would say just in general in sensors is another place where there's been a lot of hype Above what, of expectations. I mean, we've been really trying to explore the use of sensors in clinical trials now for, in my own experie…”
Vas Narasimhan Jan 17, 2019 ▶ 43:10 a16z Podcast | The Science and Business of Innovative Medicines
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Pharma clinical trial success rates have stayed flat at 5 percent
“And actually, when you look at attrition rates in our industry, really the chances of success that we have, they haven't moved in the last 15 years. Still, when we bring a medicine into human beings, on average, only one out of 20 works.”
Vas Narasimhan Jan 17, 2019 ▶ 4:42 a16z Podcast | The Science and Business of Innovative Medicines
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Novartis will only advance drugs that replace the standard of care
“We internally have just set a very clear bar now for ourselves, primarily because we live in a world now where nobody wants a me too medicine or a medicine that's just incrementally better. We say to ourselves, it has to replace the standard of care.”
Vas Narasimhan Jan 17, 2019 ▶ 8:00 a16z Podcast | The Science and Business of Innovative Medicines
Assertion Supported
Novartis launched first FDA-approved prescription app for opioid addiction
“I mean, one example we launched in the U S a digital medicine. I mean, with paratherapeutics, this is the first digital app with an FDA label that's being used for opioid addiction and other psychiatric illnesses. And it is literally an app That has run clinic…”
Vas Narasimhan Jan 17, 2019 ▶ 13:54 a16z Podcast | The Science and Business of Innovative Medicines
Opinion
Novartis CEO Vas Narasimhan: Software is a drug
“Software is a drug.”
Vas Narasimhan Jan 17, 2019 ▶ 14:22 a16z Podcast | The Science and Business of Innovative Medicines
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Narasimhan: CAR-T therapy development will shift to an iterative model
“I think in the specific example of car T I do think that's, what's going to happen because you have such a complex manufacturing that you're going to have the first generation, let's say of a CD-nineteen card, which is a cart that targets B cell cancers. And y…”
Vas Narasimhan Jan 17, 2019 ▶ 29:40 a16z Podcast | The Science and Business of Innovative Medicines
Insight
Narasimhan: AAV vectors enable reusable platform delivery in gene therapy
“When you think about AAV vectors, these are ways to deliver these gene therapies into the body. Once you solve it, the process, let's say for one of these vectors, you can apply it to multiple different diseases and not have to Recreate everything again. That'…”
Vas Narasimhan Jan 17, 2019 ▶ 31:13 a16z Podcast | The Science and Business of Innovative Medicines
Disclosure
Novartis spent years just cleaning healthcare data before running AI algorithms
“We've had to spend most of the time just cleaning the data sets before you can even run the algorithm. That's just taken us years just to clean the data sets. And I think people underestimate how little clean data there is out there and how hard it is”
Vas Narasimhan Jan 17, 2019 ▶ 36:42 a16z Podcast | The Science and Business of Innovative Medicines
Disclosure
Unstructured machine learning on clinical data lakes has failed to yield insights
“I mean, I think the holy grail of kind of having unstructured machine learning Go into big clinical data lakes and then suddenly find new insights. We've not been able to crack mostly because the data to link it up.”
Vas Narasimhan Jan 17, 2019 ▶ 39:39 a16z Podcast | The Science and Business of Innovative Medicines
Disclosure
Novartis executed $50 billion in deals in 2018
“We transacted in 2018 around fifty billion dollars of deals to really change the shape of the company.”
Vas Narasimhan Jan 17, 2019 ▶ 2:32 a16z Podcast | The Science and Business of Innovative Medicines
Insight
Rebuilding an abandoned pharmaceutical R&D division takes 10 years
“Because you can't change your mind now, you know, in three or four years and say, I wish I had it back. It'll take you another 10 years to build it back up again.”
Vas Narasimhan Jan 17, 2019 ▶ 3:48 a16z Podcast | The Science and Business of Innovative Medicines
Disclosure
Narasimhan: Novartis averages an 8% to 10% clinical trial success rate
“We've actually been fortunate at our company. We average in that same metric about eight to 10%.”
Vas Narasimhan Jan 17, 2019 ▶ 5:18 a16z Podcast | The Science and Business of Innovative Medicines
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Narasimhan: Scaling technology in clinical trials could cut costs by 20%
“There are estimates now from various sources that believe you could take out 20% of clinical trials costs if you were to actually to really deploy technology at scale.”
Vas Narasimhan Jan 17, 2019 ▶ 7:15 a16z Podcast | The Science and Business of Innovative Medicines
Disclosure
Narasimhan: Novartis considers drug reimbursement early in development, not at launch
“It used to be, we think about reimbursement as we got to launch. Now we're thinking about it really early in development.”
Vas Narasimhan Jan 17, 2019 ▶ 10:35 a16z Podcast | The Science and Business of Innovative Medicines
Assertion Partly supported
Novartis spent $15 billion on gene therapy acquisitions in 2018
“We've done fifteen billion dollars of acquisitions just last year in the space, not, not including all of our internal work in each of these areas.”
Vas Narasimhan Jan 17, 2019 ▶ 17:24 a16z Podcast | The Science and Business of Innovative Medicines
Disclosure
Novartis CEO: Novartis previously ran an internal aging program targeting sarcopenia
“You know, we had actually an aging program, a small aging program for some time where we were trying to work on things like sarcopenia, which is muscle wasting and similar, similar kinds of conditions. It turns out to be very, very difficult to, because again,…”
Vas Narasimhan Jan 17, 2019 ▶ 24:03 a16z Podcast | The Science and Business of Innovative Medicines
Assertion Contradicted
Narasimhan: RNA therapies are the only way to drug LP(a)
“And so the only way to really target it turns out to be using RNA based therapies. These RNA based therapies are able to block the production of the gene translation of the gene into the protein and then actually reduce the LP little a in the blood.”
Vas Narasimhan Jan 17, 2019 ▶ 25:55 a16z Podcast | The Science and Business of Innovative Medicines
Disclosure
Novartis built AI command center Sense to track global clinical trials
“So we've built an operational command center. Take us, as I said, two and a half years to build it. We call it sense. And what it enables us to do a team sitting centrally in our headquarters to look at all of our clinical trials in the world. And AI is predic…”
Vas Narasimhan Jan 17, 2019 ▶ 38:12 a16z Podcast | The Science and Business of Innovative Medicines
Assertion Supported
Novartis employs 17,000 R&D staff and spends $9B+ annually
“We have 17,000 R&D people and spend nine, nine billion dollars plus a year in, in R&D.”
Vas Narasimhan Jan 17, 2019 ▶ 50:40 a16z Podcast | The Science and Business of Innovative Medicines
Insight
Narasimhan: Novartis R&D pipeline is a zero-sum game
“Because if you take another program on, that means that there's another program you have to stop. I mean, it's a zero sum game for us.”
Vas Narasimhan Jan 17, 2019 ▶ 53:17 a16z Podcast | The Science and Business of Innovative Medicines

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a16z Podcast | The Science and Business of Innovative Medicines Jan 17, 2019 37m
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