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Handwrytten Sends 6 Million Fake Handwritten Notes a Year and Makes $10M Jul 10, 2026 · 1 mention

From $187M Ecommerce to $5M ARR SaaS: Spresso's Post-Bankruptcy Pivot to Enterprise Software | Jared Yaman Feb 26, 2026 · 1 mention

  • ▶ 22:10 Jared Gaiman I think I listened to a podcast from the Zapier team, and they're like, our pricing literally from like the free tier to the, you know, user tier to the business tier to the enterprise tier was like the Fibonacci sequence.

Bootstrapper Hits $3.5m, 0 Team Members using new 3x Growth Formula Jun 12, 2025 · 9 mentions

These are the AI SEO Secrets that Clickup, Airbase, and Freshworks are using to win Jan 28, 2025 · 1 mention

  • ▶ 8:01 unnamed speaker You can use MakeApp, Zapier, and you can use ChatGPT-IV to basically create all those different, ah, variations.

While Zapier Gets all the Press, Celigo Just Doubled Revenue to $95m, CEO Jan Arendtsz Jan 21, 2025 · 1 mention

Genius SEO Hacks This 34 Year Old Used to Bootstrap to $55m Revenue with Omnisend CEO Rytis Lauris Oct 15, 2024 · 1 mention

How ActiveCampaign hit $100m ARR on way to $300m Aug 27, 2024 · 1 mention

  • ▶ 13:01 Casey Hill Our first episode was a debate between Wade Foster, the founder of Zapier and Jason Lampkin.

How to do $500,000 Revenue in 8 Weeks launching new AI SaaS Tool Nov 7, 2023 · 1 mention

AI Tool Profited $70k Last Month on $195k of Revenue. Plans to hit $3m ARR By December then Raise $5m. Oct 10, 2023 · 1 mention

How He hit $12k monthly revenue building the Zapier for Data Aug 21, 2023 · 4 mentions

  • ▶ 2:23 Nathan Latka People are going to say, oh, this feels like MuleSoft or Zapier. 4 times in the scene

Helping a bootstrapped founder go from Twitter only to omni-channel marketing to grow past $1M ARR Jul 26, 2023 · 1 mention

  • ▶ 2:12 unnamed speaker So then there's the same thing for, um, Zapier, for example, or Webflow.

How We Bootstrapped to $50k MRR with Team of 2 May 24, 2023 · 1 mention

$1m Raised, 800 Users, Here's how he's launching pricing Feb 17, 2023 · 2 mentions

  • ▶ 10:36 Adam Stone What we do is sort of glue them together, not necessarily in a zappier way, but we do it through communication.
  • ▶ 13:48 Nathan Latka It's why Zapier doesn't charge by number, like they charge by number of zaps.

How we bootstrapped to $60k MRR with no product team Nov 20, 2022 · 1 mention

  • ▶ 12:25 unnamed speaker So that led us down the road of no code, and ultimately a lot of our initial solution was built on Notion, G Drive, Zapier.

How I Generated $250M In Leads As A One Person Marketing Team Nov 7, 2022 · 3 mentions

  • ▶ 17:40 John Doherty 10 minutes later, Zapier is tagging them in ActiveCampaign with a call not scheduled tag, and we're sending them this email. 3 times in the scene

How Biami Used OpenSource As Top of Funnel to Break $1.2m ARR Oct 4, 2022 · 4 mentions

  • ▶ 2:18 Nathan Latka Think of Zapier, but then think of MuleSoft, which is upmarket, right? 2 times in the scene
  • ▶ 2:34 Nathan Latka I mean, Zapier is like, you know, the kitty toy that anybody can use, but people want a lot of custom stuff built on top of it.
  • ▶ 18:40 Nathan Latka Guys, Biami.io, their business process automation, think Zapier, but enterprise level.

How Flatfile Built $100m+ WarChest to Create Data Onboarding Category, Hit $6m ARR Sep 30, 2022 · 1 mention

  • ▶ 2:56 David Boscovic To get your data automatically synchronizing via Zapier in when you're coming from a system that was built 20, 30 years ago.

$30k in MRR but wouldn't sell for $750k, would you? Sep 9, 2022 · 4 mentions

How much revenue do Jason and SaaStr make? Aug 25, 2022 · 1 mention

  • ▶ 24:40 Jason Lemkin Um, cool things like the hustle and others are great experiments or indie hacker for Stripe, um, or, or, um, or the ones Zapier bought, but they're still experiments.

Bootstrapped SEO SaaS Hits $1.8m ARR, 28% Profits! Aug 24, 2022 · 1 mention

How he sold his $1m business for $20m Last Week Aug 22, 2022 · 2 mentions

  • ▶ 3:04 Unat Bak Um, similar to how it's, uh, it's how some of the companies like Zapier are doing like a zaps or 20,000 zaps. 2 times in the scene

I love these guys. 3 co-Founders bootstrap to $2m in ARR. Beautiful business. Jul 30, 2022 · 1 mention

  • ▶ 9:59 Nathan Latka Now, two of the most successful remote companies, both GitLab and Zapier, have reached multi-billion dollar valuations, and they use a special tool, a secret portal, I like to call it, at remote.com.

Details of $20m Revenue Profitwell and $55m Revenue Paddle Deal and what led to the $200m Acquisition Jun 27, 2022 · 1 mention

  • ▶ 1:22:47 Patrick Campbell Um, the most dramatic example of this has been like, you know, basically the, the, the, the robot, you know, type tools, um, you know, even Zapier, these types of things.

How he Raised $20m+ to turn his College Thesis on Dental Data into a SaaS Company Jun 16, 2022 · 1 mention

  • ▶ 9:44 Nathan Latka Now, two of the most successful remote companies, both GitLab and Zapier, have reached multi-billion dollar valuations, and they use a special tool, a secret portal, I like to call it, at remote.com.

He hated his remote guitar lessons then spent $8m on new SaaS MVP, 5 patents later he's preparing for launch. Jun 7, 2022 · 1 mention

  • ▶ 10:37 Nathan Latka Now, two of the most successful remote companies, both GitLab and Zapier have reached multi-billion dollar valuations, and they use a special tool, a secret portal.

They sold $400m in NFT's last month, made $8m, broke $200m valuation during Series A May 30, 2022 · 1 mention

  • ▶ 12:37 Nathan Latka Now, two of the most successful remote companies, both GitLab and Zapier, have reached multi-billion dollar valuations, and they use a special tool, a secret portal, I like to call it, at remote.com.

He's Processing $100m+ in GMV Run Rate Connecting Lenders like Affirm with Consumer Brands like Lenovo May 23, 2022 · 1 mention

  • ▶ 13:20 Nathan Latka Now, two of the most successful remote companies, both GitLab and Zapier, have reached multi-billion dollar valuations, and they use a special tool, a secret portal, I like to call it, at remote.com.

How he built 10k beta list, used it to raise $3m for new Calendar Tool May 22, 2022 · 2 mentions

  • ▶ 6:25 Jeremy Bell It's all, it's all built in, um, it's a custom thing that, that I built using Zapier and Slack.
  • ▶ 8:26 Nathan Latka Now, two of the most successful remote companies, both GitLab and Zapier have reached multi-billion dollar valuations, and they use a special tool, a secret portal, I like to call it, at remote.com.

Genius Founder Hits $10m Revenue With Just $3.2m Raised May 16, 2022 · 1 mention

Skiff is Privacy Focused Notion, Breaks $60m Valuation, 10k MAU's May 15, 2022 · 1 mention

  • ▶ 12:30 Nathan Latka Now, two of the most successful remote companies, both GitLab and Zapier have reached multi-billion dollar valuations, and they use a special tool, a secret portal, I like to call it, at remote.com.

Drone Safety Software Raises at $4m Valuation, Lands first $100k Pilot for 25 Drones May 14, 2022 · 1 mention

  • ▶ 9:02 Nathan Latka Now, many of you guys saw this by just sending people to Zapier, but that takes people out of your experience, which you don't want to do.

Genius Way to Pre-Sell $5k of Your Product May 9, 2022 · 1 mention

  • ▶ 11:57 Nathan Latka Now, two of the most successful remote companies, both GitLab and Zapier have reached multi-billion dollar valuations, and they use a special tool, a secret portal.

Hacker Buys a SaaS Project for $7,500, Now Does $120,000 in Revenue May 8, 2022 · 1 mention

  • ▶ 10:59 Nathan Latka Now, many of you guys saw this by just sending people to Zapier, but that takes people out of your experience, which you don't want to do.

$20m Payday and he still controls ChiliPiper with his Wife Alina May 4, 2022 · 1 mention

  • ▶ 18:49 Nathan Latka Now, many of you guys saw this by just sending people to Zapier, but that takes people out of your experience, which you don't want to do.

Henry Schuck turned down $40m for 70% when he was 24 May 2, 2022 · 1 mention

  • ▶ 18:35 Nathan Latka Now, two of the most successful remote companies, both GitLab and Zapier, have reached multi-billion dollar valuations, and they use a special tool, a secret portal, I like to call it, at remote.com.

Bank Calculator App Hits $400k ARR, Hit $7m Cap Apr 24, 2022 · 1 mention

  • ▶ 9:26 Nathan Latka Now, two of the most successful remote companies, both GitLab and Zapier, have reached multi-billion dollar valuations, and they use a special tool, a secret portal, I like to call it, at remote.com.

The Math Behind the $360m Sage Paid to Acquire BrightPearl Apr 18, 2022 · 1 mention

  • ▶ 12:57 Nathan Latka Now, many of you guys saw this by just sending people to Zapier, but that takes people out of your experience, which you don't want to do.

Full Stack Permissions as a Service Launches, $6m in Fresh Capital to Buy Time Apr 2, 2022 · 2 mentions

Disco Helps Hundreds of Customers Facilitate Live Learning, Can They Beat Hopin? Mar 18, 2022 · 1 mention

Fastest Growing Ever? How He Went From $0 to $1.2m in 4 Weeks Mar 6, 2022 · 1 mention

  • ▶ 1:44 Nathan Latka When you say a process or a workflow, I mean, is this effectively like, if you take MuleSoft, you know, the enterprise version of Zapier, plus like you, the enterprise version of ClickUp, and you put those two things together, that's sort…

He Just Sold 25% For $2m, Can he Hit $1.2m ARR Next? Mar 4, 2022 · 1 mention

  • ▶ 12:00 Nathan Latka Now, many of you guys saw this by just sending people to Zapier, but that takes people out of your experience, which you don't want to do.

How he plans to sell first $2k/mo plan Mar 2, 2022 · 1 mention

  • ▶ 12:21 Nathan Latka Now, two of the most successful remote companies, both GitLab and Zapier have reached multi-billion dollar valuations, and they use a special tool, a secret portal.

Workplace Management SaaS Hits $4.7m in ARR, up 70% YoY, Price Increase Added $55k/mo last 20 days Feb 14, 2022 · 1 mention

  • ▶ 11:30 Nathan Latka Now, many of you guys saw this by just sending people to Zapier, but that takes people out of your experience, which you don't want to do.

Life Planning SaaS Hits $5k in MRR, Raises $1m on $6m Seed Round Jan 25, 2022 · 1 mention

  • ▶ 8:27 Nathan Latka Now, two of the most successful remote companies, both GitLab and Zapier have reached multi-billion dollar valuations, and they use a special tool, a secret portal, I like to call it, at remote.com.

Zero to $15k/mo in 12 Months, Data Automation Tool Now Raising $1.2m on $10m Jan 18, 2022 · 1 mention

  • ▶ 8:16 Nathan Latka Now, two of the most successful remote companies, both GitLab and Zapier have reached multi-billion dollar valuations, and they use a special tool, a secret portal, I like to call it, at remote.com.

6k Freelancers Use Xolo To Run Their Business, $5.5m Revenue, Raising $20m Now Jan 17, 2022 · 1 mention

  • ▶ 11:08 Nathan Latka Now, many of you guys saw this by just sending people to Zapier, but that takes people out of your experience, which you don't want to do.

ZenBusiness Breaks $45m Revenue Relentlessly Focusing on 220,000 Underserved Owners of Service Businesses Jan 10, 2022 · 1 mention

  • ▶ 14:36 Nathan Latka Now, two of the most successful remote companies, both GitLab and Zapier, have reached multi-billion dollar valuations, and they use a special tool, a secret portal, I like to call it, at remote.com.

$5m Revenue On Just $5m Raised, Capital Efficient Founder! Jan 7, 2022 · 1 mention

  • ▶ 10:54 Nathan Latka Now, two of the most successful remote companies, both GitLab and Zapier have reached multi-billion dollar valuations, and they use a special tool, a secret portal.

$70m Raised with just $10k in MRR? Can this Devops for SalesOps tool Grow Into Lofty Valuation? Dec 27, 2021 · 2 mentions

  • ▶ 18:56 Nathan Latka It's easier and easier to use a more productive version of like what MuleSoft might be, or like today might be Zapier, where you're connecting multiple streams, managing change across many streams, the pipes of the internet focused on the… 2 times in the scene

Is Reclaim the Next Calendly? 16,000 Users Keep Using Every Month, up 400% YoY Dec 16, 2021 · 1 mention

  • ▶ 10:52 Nathan Latka Now, two of the most successful remote companies, both GitLab and Zapier have reached multi-billion dollar valuations, and they use a special tool, a secret portal, I like to call it, at remote.com.

SoloSuit Makes $80k/mo Helping Consumers Fight Bank Debt Collectors Dec 14, 2021 · 4 mentions

  • ▶ 14:25 George Simons I think, uh, as Zapier comes to mind, I'm not super familiar with their background, but I believe Zapier followed a path like where they raised the series a, and then I think they were kind of quiet for a while and they have multi-billion… 4 times in the scene

India Based SaaS hits $20k MRR, Growing Fast with 160k Users Dec 8, 2021 · 1 mention

  • ▶ 8:27 Nathan Latka Now, two of the most successful remote companies, both GitLab and Zapier, have reached multi-billion dollar valuations, and they use a special tool, a secret portal, I like to call it, at remote.com.

Camera Analytics SaaS Hits $6k MRR, Raised $1.5m at $4m Valuation Nov 28, 2021 · 1 mention

  • ▶ 8:30 Nathan Latka Now, two of the most successful remote companies, both GitLab and Zapier, have reached multi-billion dollar valuations, and they use a special tool, a secret portal, I like to call it, at remote.com.

Norby Is SMS and Email all in One, Raises $4m at $20m Valuation Nov 19, 2021 · 1 mention

  • ▶ 2:19 Nick Gerard All those things that people set up super complicated Zapier flows to wire together to build their online presence, put all those in one place, you brand everything one time, it looks right in all the different places, everything is built…

SheetGo Hits $70k in MRR Helping You Get More out of Google Sheets Nov 12, 2021 · 1 mention

  • ▶ 9:18 Nathan Latka Now, two of the most successful remote companies, both GitLab and Zapier have reached multi-billion dollar valuations, and they use a special tool, a secret portal, I like to call it, at remote.com.

Leasecake Helps Companies Manage Leases, Breaks $1m in ARR Oct 28, 2021 · 1 mention

  • ▶ 9:10 Nathan Latka Now, two of the most successful remote companies, both GitLab and Zapier have reached multi-billion dollar valuations, and they use a special tool, a secret portal, I like to call it, at remote.com.

A PE Firm Should Buy This $7m ARR Company Stuck Inside a Publicly Traded Firm Oct 17, 2021 · 1 mention

  • ▶ 8:40 Nathan Latka Now, two of the most successful remote companies, both GitLab and Zapier, have reached multi-billion dollar valuations, and they use a special tool, a secret portal, I like to call it, at remote.com.

They Shut Down $3m Agency to Launch API SaaS tool, Hit 200 Customers Sep 18, 2021 · 1 mention

  • ▶ 1:50 Nathan Latka I mean, I think a lot of people, when they want to connect schools, they'll use things like Zapier, MuleSoft, these sorts of tools.

Folderly Email Deliverability SaaS Hits $1.56m ARR In Under 9 Months, Bootstrapped Sep 17, 2021 · 1 mention

API Integration Tool Hit $1k in MRR, Raised $150k on $1.4m Valuation Sep 16, 2021 · 3 mentions

  • ▶ 2:41 Anton Viborny Uh, because when we started our business two years ago, we wanted to, uh, create integration platform in, uh, in Russian and Ukraine, but after that, we, we think that it's a bad, bad, bad market, uh, for us, uh, and we, we think that,… 2 times in the scene
  • ▶ 6:03 Anton Viborny Uh, so when they invested in us because they paid money for Capterra, GT Crowd, and, uh, Zapier, and they understand what the difference, because, because the, the cost of tracking customer acquisition cost for SaaS vendors is extremely…

Claap Is a More Feature Rich Loom for Product Managers, $3m Raised on $17.5m Post Money Valuation Sep 2, 2021 · 1 mention

  • ▶ 11:00 Nathan Latka Now, two of the most successful remote companies, both GitLab and Zapier have reached multi-billion dollar valuations, and they use a special tool, a secret portal.

Webboss Raised $500k on $1m Vlauation in 2015. Where are they now? Aug 29, 2021 · 1 mention

  • ▶ 8:56 Nathan Latka Now, two of the most successful remote companies, both GitLab and Zapier have reached multi-billion dollar valuations, and they use a special tool, a secret portal.

400 Firms pay $1k/mo For This Investor Database, Growing 100% YoY Bootstrapped Aug 24, 2021 · 1 mention

  • ▶ 9:49 Nathan Latka Now, two of the most successful remote companies, both GitLab and Zapier, have reached multi-billion dollar valuations, and they use a special tool, a secret portal, I like to call it, at remote.com.

Oil and Gas ESG SaaS Hits $1.2m ARR in 12 Months, $5m Raise Next? Aug 20, 2021 · 1 mention

  • ▶ 11:15 Nathan Latka Now, two of the most successful remote companies, both GitLab and Zapier, have reached multi-billion dollar valuations, and they use a special tool, a secret portal, I like to call it, at remote.com.

20 Year Old Sells $15k Lanyards, Now Ecomm Research Tool Aug 14, 2021 · 1 mention

  • ▶ 9:41 Nathan Latka Now, two of the most successful remote companies, both GitLab and Zapier have reached multi-billion dollar valuations, and they use a special tool, a secret portal.

$15k in MRR From $50k Raised Helping you Turn Blogs into Audio Content Aug 11, 2021 · 1 mention

  • ▶ 4:19 Albert Heifaz We have integrations with RD Station, HubSpot, Zapier, Spotify, and other softwares.

How He Built The Largest Rev Ops Community In The World (and $500k of revenue!) Aug 10, 2021 · 2 mentions

  • ▶ 5:56 Jared Robin I mean, from a Zapier integration standpoint, you know, I, from, from a backend standpoint, we have like air tables are lightweight database. 2 times in the scene

Egypt Based Seafood Marketplace Launches, Does 70 Orders, Makes 15% Commission Aug 7, 2021 · 1 mention

  • ▶ 8:07 Nathan Latka Now, two of the most successful remote companies, both GitLab and Zapier have reached multi-billion dollar valuations, and they use a special tool, a secret portal, I like to call it, at remote.com.

EstateSpace Grows 200% to $2.2m ARR Bootstrapped Helping You Track Your Physical Assets Aug 6, 2021 · 1 mention

  • ▶ 10:55 Nathan Latka Now, two of the most successful remote companies, both GitLab and Zapier have reached multi-billion dollar valuations, and they use a special tool, a secret portal.

Bootstrapped Founder Buys $1.4m Dream Home Funded by his Marketing SaaS Tool Aug 1, 2021 · 1 mention

  • ▶ 9:53 Nathan Latka Now, two of the most successful remote companies, both GitLab and Zapier, have reached multi-billion dollar valuations, and they use a special tool, a secret portal, I like to call it, at remote.com.

Cleaning Marketplace Hits $1.2m ARR, Now Scaling with $35k Franchises Jul 28, 2021 · 4 mentions

  • ▶ 6:04 Neil Parak Uh, then other minor software expenses here and there, just, you know, Zapier, things like that, just to connect everything, active campaign, um, things like that.
  • ▶ 12:25 Nathan Latka I was hoping, I was hoping what you're going to dive into, uh, was addressing this question, which is Zapier and tools like Zapier right now, the valuations in the marketplace and SaaS were all through their fricking roof right now. 2 times in the scene
  • ▶ 16:17 Neil Parak It's gotta be happier.

How LearnWorlds Broke 4,500 Customers, $6m ARR Helping Course Creators Launch Jul 25, 2021 · 5 mentions

  • ▶ 13:15 Nathan Latka Now, two of the most successful remote companies, both GitLab and Zapier, have reached multi-billion dollar valuations, and they use a special tool, a secret portal, I like to call it, at remote.com.
  • ▶ 20:30 Panos Shozos I think I have to say Zapier. 4 times in the scene

How this DevOps Tool Plans to Break $1m in First 9 months Jul 19, 2021 · 3 mentions

  • ▶ 12:06 Nathan Latka There's a lot of other companies in this space, whether it's flat file attacking it or Zapier more for the marketer that's trying to do this and you're sort of for the engineer.
  • ▶ 15:39 Nathan Latka So how do you think about the more sort of marketer friendly tools in this space, like sort of Zapier? 2 times in the scene

Why SaaS Founders Use Them as SDR's, First Sales Hire Jul 11, 2021 · 1 mention

  • ▶ 9:27 Nathan Latka Now, two of the most successful remote companies, both GitLab and Zapier have reached multi-billion dollar valuations, and they use a special tool, a secret portal.

Did Everyone Make Money in the Bizzabo X.AI Deal? Jul 9, 2021 · 1 mention

  • ▶ 20:27 Nathan Latka Now, two of the most successful remote companies, both GitLab and Zapier have reached multi-billion dollar valuations, and they use a special tool, a secret portal, I like to call it, at remote.com.

Husband Wife Team Goes From Almost Dead to 100 Customers Jun 28, 2021 · 1 mention

  • ▶ 9:32 Nathan Latka Now, two of the most successful remote companies, both GitLab and Zapier, have reached multi-billion dollar valuations, and they use a special tool, a secret portal, I like to call it, at remote.com.

Slintel Breaks $6m ARR, $20m Raise on $100m Valuation Ready to Take on B2B Intelligence Space Jun 22, 2021 · 1 mention

  • ▶ 13:42 Nathan Latka Now, two of the most successful remote companies, both GitLab and Zapier, have reached multi-billion dollar valuations, and they use a special tool, a secret portal, I like to call it, at remote.com.

He Spent $300k Buying SaaS Companies, Sold them For $2m Jun 7, 2021 · 1 mention

  • ▶ 8:22 Nathan Latka Now, two of the most successful remote companies, both GitLab and Zapier, have reached multi-billion dollar valuations, and they use a special tool, a secret portal, I like to call it, at remote.com.

LivingSecurity SaaS Breaks $3m ARR, 150% Retention, New Unify Product To Create More Insights for Security Leaders Jun 1, 2021 · 1 mention

  • ▶ 9:31 Nathan Latka Now, two of the most successful remote companies, both GitLab and Zapier, have reached multi-billion dollar valuations, and they use a special tool, a secret portal, I like to call it, at remote.com.

SEO Tool Hits $1m Revenue, 90% yoy Growth, Doing $5m Seed Round Now? May 31, 2021 · 1 mention

  • ▶ 20:26 Andrea Volpini Personally, I use a lot, uh, Zapier, but I think company wise, we are in love with Trello.

With 1 Exit Done, Can He Automate Diligence for Financial Firms Using RPA? May 18, 2021 · 2 mentions

  • ▶ 5:58 Nathan Latka Everyone listening probably is familiar with Zapier, right?
  • ▶ 6:42 Vic Singh So if you look at the RPA space and the Zapier game, they're more about, we'll give you the infrastructure.

Developer Goes from Freelancer to SaaS Founder With Simple Playbook (Copy it!) Apr 18, 2021 · 1 mention

  • ▶ 5:33 Andy Cloke Um, what my tool lets you do, um, is very similar to something like Zapier or Integromat is set up those API calls.

Is This The Creator of Bitcoin? Crypto Fund Thinks So. Mar 4, 2021 · 1 mention

Yac Is Audio Slack, Hits 10k Weekly Users, Raising $8m on $30m Feb 11, 2021 · 1 mention

NessLabs Hits 1,500 Members Paying $75k, Software Next? Dec 27, 2020 · 3 mentions

Front End As a Service, I Predict They'll Be $100m Within 3 Years Nov 28, 2020 · 1 mention

  • ▶ 12:45 Matthew Hager And then, you know, so we're, we're planning on doing more of like, I would, I'd say there's like the Zapier model of sort of being friends with everybody.
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