Jul 19, 2021 · 20m · top-founders

How this DevOps Tool Plans to Break $1m in First 9 months

Gil Feig · 12m spoken Nathan Latka · 6m spoken
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Merge co-founder Gil Feig discusses how the unified B2B API platform solves complex software integrations, scales developer adoption, and aims to reach $1 million in ARR within its first year of monetization.

How this conversation actually went

Every chapter scored 0–10 on four independent dynamics. Hover any point for the reasoning behind the score. Nathan holds 32.3% of the talking time here. How this is scored →

Nathan as informed peer 6.5 Guest teaching 4.0 Guest disagreement 1.8 Nathan pushing back 4.7
05100:0010:0020:001:27–3:52 · Nathan as informed peer 5/10 The Problem Behind Merge: Unified B2B APIs Nathan explores the origin of Merge and connects it to common engineering integration pain points. Gil clarifies that the product is strictly built for engineers via SDK embeds rather than non-technical users.3:53–8:00 · Nathan as informed peer 6/10 Pricing Strategy and Enterprise Plans Nathan refuses to let Gil stay vague on pricing and insists on getting a concrete dollar range for their enterprise and custom onboarding tiers. Gil clarifies that pricing runs in the ballpark of a few thousand dollars a month rather than six figures.8:01–11:00 · Nathan as informed peer 7/10 Platform Adoption and Seed Fundraising with NEA Nathan drills into seed round mechanics, noting typical dilution ranges of 15 to 20 percent and questioning why an early-stage startup opted for a priced round over convertible notes. Gil explains that they chose a priced round specifically to avoid downstream cap overhang and uncertainty.11:00–14:28 · Nathan as informed peer 7/10 Team Structure and Path to $1M ARR Nathan draws parallels to Snowflake's usage-based pricing model and calculates the monthly run rate required to hit one million ARR by year-end. Gil explains why early customers require hybrid pricing with predictable flat caps alongside per-request models.14:29–18:06 · Nathan as informed peer 8/10 Competitive Landscape: Flatfile, Zapier, and Vertical APIs Nathan tests Merge's competitive moats against Flatfile, Zapier, Workato, and Finch. Gil provides a technical breakdown of horizontal UI automation versus vertical unified API normalization and pushes back on the premise that they eliminate workflow tools.18:07–19:04 · Nathan as informed peer 6/10 Co-Founder Equity Split and Dynamics Nathan breaks down the post-money cap table mechanics and probes how the co-founders manage conflict when split equally. Gil details their 50/50 partnership and mutual deference framework.1:27–3:52 · Guest teaching 4/10 The Problem Behind Merge: Unified B2B APIs Nathan explores the origin of Merge and connects it to common engineering integration pain points. Gil clarifies that the product is strictly built for engineers via SDK embeds rather than non-technical users.3:53–8:00 · Guest teaching 3/10 Pricing Strategy and Enterprise Plans Nathan refuses to let Gil stay vague on pricing and insists on getting a concrete dollar range for their enterprise and custom onboarding tiers. Gil clarifies that pricing runs in the ballpark of a few thousand dollars a month rather than six figures.8:01–11:00 · Guest teaching 4/10 Platform Adoption and Seed Fundraising with NEA Nathan drills into seed round mechanics, noting typical dilution ranges of 15 to 20 percent and questioning why an early-stage startup opted for a priced round over convertible notes. Gil explains that they chose a priced round specifically to avoid downstream cap overhang and uncertainty.11:00–14:28 · Guest teaching 5/10 Team Structure and Path to $1M ARR Nathan draws parallels to Snowflake's usage-based pricing model and calculates the monthly run rate required to hit one million ARR by year-end. Gil explains why early customers require hybrid pricing with predictable flat caps alongside per-request models.14:29–18:06 · Guest teaching 6/10 Competitive Landscape: Flatfile, Zapier, and Vertical APIs Nathan tests Merge's competitive moats against Flatfile, Zapier, Workato, and Finch. Gil provides a technical breakdown of horizontal UI automation versus vertical unified API normalization and pushes back on the premise that they eliminate workflow tools.18:07–19:04 · Guest teaching 2/10 Co-Founder Equity Split and Dynamics Nathan breaks down the post-money cap table mechanics and probes how the co-founders manage conflict when split equally. Gil details their 50/50 partnership and mutual deference framework.1:27–3:52 · Guest disagreement 1/10 The Problem Behind Merge: Unified B2B APIs Nathan explores the origin of Merge and connects it to common engineering integration pain points. Gil clarifies that the product is strictly built for engineers via SDK embeds rather than non-technical users.3:53–8:00 · Guest disagreement 2/10 Pricing Strategy and Enterprise Plans Nathan refuses to let Gil stay vague on pricing and insists on getting a concrete dollar range for their enterprise and custom onboarding tiers. Gil clarifies that pricing runs in the ballpark of a few thousand dollars a month rather than six figures.8:01–11:00 · Guest disagreement 2/10 Platform Adoption and Seed Fundraising with NEA Nathan drills into seed round mechanics, noting typical dilution ranges of 15 to 20 percent and questioning why an early-stage startup opted for a priced round over convertible notes. Gil explains that they chose a priced round specifically to avoid downstream cap overhang and uncertainty.11:00–14:28 · Guest disagreement 2/10 Team Structure and Path to $1M ARR Nathan draws parallels to Snowflake's usage-based pricing model and calculates the monthly run rate required to hit one million ARR by year-end. Gil explains why early customers require hybrid pricing with predictable flat caps alongside per-request models.14:29–18:06 · Guest disagreement 3/10 Competitive Landscape: Flatfile, Zapier, and Vertical APIs Nathan tests Merge's competitive moats against Flatfile, Zapier, Workato, and Finch. Gil provides a technical breakdown of horizontal UI automation versus vertical unified API normalization and pushes back on the premise that they eliminate workflow tools.18:07–19:04 · Guest disagreement 1/10 Co-Founder Equity Split and Dynamics Nathan breaks down the post-money cap table mechanics and probes how the co-founders manage conflict when split equally. Gil details their 50/50 partnership and mutual deference framework.1:27–3:52 · Nathan pushing back 3/10 The Problem Behind Merge: Unified B2B APIs Nathan explores the origin of Merge and connects it to common engineering integration pain points. Gil clarifies that the product is strictly built for engineers via SDK embeds rather than non-technical users.3:53–8:00 · Nathan pushing back 6/10 Pricing Strategy and Enterprise Plans Nathan refuses to let Gil stay vague on pricing and insists on getting a concrete dollar range for their enterprise and custom onboarding tiers. Gil clarifies that pricing runs in the ballpark of a few thousand dollars a month rather than six figures.8:01–11:00 · Nathan pushing back 5/10 Platform Adoption and Seed Fundraising with NEA Nathan drills into seed round mechanics, noting typical dilution ranges of 15 to 20 percent and questioning why an early-stage startup opted for a priced round over convertible notes. Gil explains that they chose a priced round specifically to avoid downstream cap overhang and uncertainty.11:00–14:28 · Nathan pushing back 5/10 Team Structure and Path to $1M ARR Nathan draws parallels to Snowflake's usage-based pricing model and calculates the monthly run rate required to hit one million ARR by year-end. Gil explains why early customers require hybrid pricing with predictable flat caps alongside per-request models.14:29–18:06 · Nathan pushing back 5/10 Competitive Landscape: Flatfile, Zapier, and Vertical APIs Nathan tests Merge's competitive moats against Flatfile, Zapier, Workato, and Finch. Gil provides a technical breakdown of horizontal UI automation versus vertical unified API normalization and pushes back on the premise that they eliminate workflow tools.18:07–19:04 · Nathan pushing back 4/10 Co-Founder Equity Split and Dynamics Nathan breaks down the post-money cap table mechanics and probes how the co-founders manage conflict when split equally. Gil details their 50/50 partnership and mutual deference framework.

speaking balance: gold is Nathan, purple is the guest (3 minute bins)

0:00 · Nathan 45.3% · guest 54.7%0:00 · Nathan 45.3% · guest 54.7%3:00 · Nathan 25.3% · guest 74.7%3:00 · Nathan 25.3% · guest 74.7%6:00 · Nathan 17.5% · guest 82.5%6:00 · Nathan 17.5% · guest 82.5%9:00 · Nathan 24.6% · guest 75.4%9:00 · Nathan 24.6% · guest 75.4%12:00 · Nathan 43.7% · guest 56.3%12:00 · Nathan 43.7% · guest 56.3%15:00 · Nathan 26.3% · guest 73.7%15:00 · Nathan 26.3% · guest 73.7%18:00 · Nathan 45.6% · guest 54.4%18:00 · Nathan 45.6% · guest 54.4%
Sharpest disagreement ▶ 16:47 Rejecting the Workato obsolescence premise

Gil rejects Nathan's claim that Merge makes workflow automation tools like Tray and Workato irrelevant, noting that they operate in distinct markets.

Hardest push from Nathan ▶ 4:57 Demanding concrete enterprise pricing numbers

Nathan cuts off vague descriptions of variable pricing tiers to force Gil to specify whether contracts are closer to one hundred dollars or one hundred thousand dollars.

Biggest teaching moment ▶ 15:44 Explaining vertical data normalization versus UI workflow tools

Gil educates Nathan on why Zapier and Tray are horizontal UI connectors that do not normalize deep vertical API schema models for developers.

Nathan holds their own ▶ 17:07 Applying Finch architecture comparison to FounderPath

Nathan displays deep technical industry knowledge by citing Finch's payroll data integrations and asking whether Merge directly replaces that layer.

the scores for every segment, with the reasoning behind each
ChapterTopicNathan as informed peerGuest teachingGuest disagreementNathan pushing backWhy
The Problem Behind Merge: Unified B2B APIs 5413 Nathan explores the origin of Merge and connects it to common engineering integration pain points. Gil clarifies that the product is strictly built for engineers via SDK embeds rather than non-technical users.
Pricing Strategy and Enterprise Plans 6326 Nathan refuses to let Gil stay vague on pricing and insists on getting a concrete dollar range for their enterprise and custom onboarding tiers. Gil clarifies that pricing runs in the ballpark of a few thousand dollars a month rather than six figures.
Platform Adoption and Seed Fundraising with NEA 7425 Nathan drills into seed round mechanics, noting typical dilution ranges of 15 to 20 percent and questioning why an early-stage startup opted for a priced round over convertible notes. Gil explains that they chose a priced round specifically to avoid downstream cap overhang and uncertainty.
Team Structure and Path to $1M ARR 7525 Nathan draws parallels to Snowflake's usage-based pricing model and calculates the monthly run rate required to hit one million ARR by year-end. Gil explains why early customers require hybrid pricing with predictable flat caps alongside per-request models.
Competitive Landscape: Flatfile, Zapier, and Vertical APIs 8635 Nathan tests Merge's competitive moats against Flatfile, Zapier, Workato, and Finch. Gil provides a technical breakdown of horizontal UI automation versus vertical unified API normalization and pushes back on the premise that they eliminate workflow tools.
Co-Founder Equity Split and Dynamics 6214 Nathan breaks down the post-money cap table mechanics and probes how the co-founders manage conflict when split equally. Gil details their 50/50 partnership and mutual deference framework.

Statements from this episode (19)

Disclosure
Feig: Merge offers single-integration access to dozens of B2B APIs
“What we're building here are unified APIs, and so you integrate once with us, and then you can offer your customers, 20, 30, 40 different integrations in HR, applicant tracking, accounting, and then more categories on the way.”
Gil Feig Jul 19, 2021 ▶ 1:37
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Embedding Merge's linking flow takes developers 30 minutes
“It takes 30 minutes for someone to embed that.”
Gil Feig Jul 19, 2021 ▶ 3:15
Disclosure
Merge charges one cent per API request on pay-as-you-go plan
“We offer our pay as you go plan. So it's one cent per API request.”
Gil Feig Jul 19, 2021 ▶ 4:01
Disclosure
Merge charges a couple thousand dollars monthly for supported enterprise plans
“It's on the order of a couple grand a month for our enterprise plan. Or it's not quite enterprise. It's more of like a plan where you require support and customer onboarding.”
Gil Feig Jul 19, 2021 ▶ 5:07
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Feig: Merge added 20 integrations in its first launch month
“We spent six months just building up the platform. We didn't have a single integration. And then in January alone, we added 20 integrations.”
Gil Feig Jul 19, 2021 ▶ 6:44
Assertion Supported
Feig: Merge maintains 45 to 50 integrations, adding 2-3 weekly
“I believe currently we have around 45 to 50. We add like, I would say probably about two to three a week”
Gil Feig Jul 19, 2021 ▶ 7:26
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Merge's internal tooling allows non-engineers to build product integrations
“Engineers and non-engineers are able to build integrations here because of a lot of the tooling we've built.”
Gil Feig Jul 19, 2021 ▶ 7:40
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Merge reaches 280 signups and 40 to 50 embedded paying customers
“So we have 280 organizations that have signed up for the platform. And then order of, I have to, I don't have the latest number on me, but 40 to 50 fully embedded and more and more adding.”
Gil Feig Jul 19, 2021 ▶ 8:19
Assertion Supported
Merge raised $4.5M seed led by NEA with Scott Sandell joining board
“So we raised four and a half million from NEA with Scott Sandell joining our board.”
Gil Feig Jul 19, 2021 ▶ 9:16
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Merge prevents churn by guaranteeing two-week turnarounds for new API integrations
“We've never lost a customer to not having an integration and we promise free two to three week turnaround on new integration.”
Gil Feig Jul 19, 2021 ▶ 9:34
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Ten of Merge's twelve full-time early employees are coders
“We're currently five full-time engineers, but 10 of us can code. So 10 out of 12 are coders.”
Gil Feig Jul 19, 2021 ▶ 11:25
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Merge grew entirely organically with only a $200 paid marketing trial
“All organic, all word of mouth. I think we ran like a 200 dollar trial on paid marketing.”
Gil Feig Jul 19, 2021 ▶ 11:54
Prediction Held up
Feig predicts Merge will break a $1M run rate in 2021
“End of the year, by the end of the year.”
Gil Feig Jul 19, 2021 ▶ 12:18
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Merge began generating all revenue in the past two months
“I mean, all revenue started in the past two months. We came at a stall from two and a half to three months ago.”
Gil Feig Jul 19, 2021 ▶ 12:29
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Feig: Merge has processed hundreds of millions of API requests since launch
“I can tell you since launch, it's been hundreds of millions.”
Gil Feig Jul 19, 2021 ▶ 13:52
Disclosure
Merge is pivoting away from usage-based pricing due to volume unpredictability
“We are going to start moving towards instead of API requests, because it can be kind of unpredictable. Certain platforms might require you to make tons. We're going to be moving to more towards a flat rate. So you don't have to worry about like the nuances of …”
Gil Feig Jul 19, 2021 ▶ 14:14
Opinion
Feig says Merge targets a different market than Tray and Workato
“I think that that's like, I think that, you know, it might be a little bit of overlap, but overall it's just a different market and I don't think we're making them irrelevant.”
Gil Feig Jul 19, 2021 ▶ 16:53
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Feig: Merge integrations are strictly API-based with no scraping
“And we're all API based only. So we're built from enterprise from the ground up. We're built to scale up to enterprises. So all API based, no scraping. We're not doing things like that.”
Gil Feig Jul 19, 2021 ▶ 17:33
Disclosure
Merge co-founders Gil Feig and Shensi Ding split equity equally
“We did an equal split and we're really proud of that.”
Gil Feig Jul 19, 2021 ▶ 18:22
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