LTV

21 statements across 21 episodes · 7 bullish · 6 bearish · 21 people on the record · first statement Apr 4, 2016 by Brandon Bruce · across every show →

Everything said about LTV, oldest first

Apr 4, 2016 positive
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Cirrus Insight reports LTV of $750-$800 and CAC of $85
“So our LTV right now is between 758 hundred dollars. You know, cost of customer acquisitions about 85 bucks.”
Brandon Bruce Apr 4, 2016 ▶ 10:58 Cirrus Insight Is Doing $640k in MRR (Dec 2015) With Much Bigger Plans EP 226
Jun 3, 2016 negative
Insight
Urban: Projecting SaaS LTV via Churn Formulas Is Meaningless Nonsense
“When that number one divided by your churn projects like your L, it will project your LTV at like, oh, you're three and a half years or four years. Meanwhile, every year your business changes, your contract values change your contract lengths change, your pro…”
Ryan Urban Jun 3, 2016 ▶ 23:11 From $0 to $17,000,000 In 2015 With NYC Based SaaS Company, EP 253: Ryan Urban
Apr 12, 2017 negative
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Mader: Blended Averages for CAC and LTV Lead to Destructive Spending
“I see too many businesses look at averages and averages can either completely turn you upside down or completely leave you under investing. So we never look at the average. We always look at the discreet item markets.”
Mark Mader Apr 12, 2017 ▶ 15:36 EP 627: SmartSheet $70M Raised, $80M ARR, Helping 65,000 Customers with Project Management with CEO Mark Mader
Dec 16, 2017 negative
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Bird: Fast-Growing Startups Should Focus on CAC Payback Over LTV
“I think people, the LTV number is not a, I don't think it's a good number to focus on. We calculate it and it's in our metrics and everything, but it's I think, you know, again, you know, you have 95% logo retention or dollar retention. You know, that customer…”
Aaron Bird Dec 16, 2017 ▶ 14:33 875 SaaS: Bizable Passes $1m MRR in Attribution Wars
Feb 26, 2018
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Carson: Standard CAC to LTV is a vanity metric without gross profit
“We think people who focus on CAC to LTV is, it can be a vanity metric period because you're not actually focusing on, on gross profit LTV. So actually how much, Profit are you driving the LTV and what is the fully loaded CAC, which means you got to include you…”
Ryan Carson Feb 26, 2018 ▶ 15:01 947 Is He The New King of Education? 80k Student Customers and $24m in Revenue Says "Yes!"
Mar 16, 2018 negative
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Carlson: Non-SaaS public investors often misunderstand CAC and payback periods
“Oftentimes investors don't understand when we get to the point where we're talking about our CAC and LTV ratios and things that I share with you. You know, there's strong arguments for investing, but then you've got longer payback periods than maybe an investo…”
Rick Carlson Mar 16, 2018 ▶ 11:56 965 Why This $14m ARR Company "Went Public" To Win Marketing Automation Space
Aug 3, 2018
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Latka: Highly profitable low-CAC growth channels are honeypots that inevitably degrade
“Everyone thinks you find a growth channel where the CAC is one third of the LTV, and it's just going to exist forever. The fact of the matter is, they don't. These are all honeypots, and you can milk the honeypot for a while, but eventually competitors move an…”
Nathan Latka Aug 3, 2018 ▶ 16:31 1105 Should you develop every customer request?
Nov 7, 2018
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Talkpush spends $11,000 to acquire enterprise customers worth $62,000 lifetime
“11,000 yeah, 11,000 CAC and an LTV of around 62 right now.”
Max Armbruster Nov 7, 2018 ▶ 12:11 1201 How he sold customers before hiring first head of engineering
Nov 8, 2018 negative
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Schoenfeld: Calculating LTV on early SaaS cohorts is completely useless
“I don't think about LTV and SAS. I just look at the CAC ratio and then the, and the payback period. Cause I think when you start doing LTV on a half a percent of churn on an early cohort, it's like your LTV is a hundred years or something.”
Adam Schoenfeld Nov 8, 2018 ▶ 16:33 1202 He Raised $20m+ in First Company, Now Bootstrapping in B2B Sales Tech Space, $1m in ARR
Nov 30, 2018 negative
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Hildreth: Crisp avoids LTV metric because churn is so low
“We don't at the moment because our churn is so low and it's annualized and they're recurring and it's not a product that tends to leave it. So it said it's a, it would be a bad number for us to be looking at.”
Adam Hildreth Nov 30, 2018 ▶ 14:01 1224 CrispThinking passes $10m in ARR helping Enterprise Manage Social Media
Dec 15, 2018 positive
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Sailthru's modeled customer lifetime value is just over $400,000
“So I would say the last time we did the model, it was just north of 400,000.”
Neil Lustig Dec 15, 2018 ▶ 10:00 1239 SailThru raised $50m, now profitable, 20% yoy growth, whats next?
Dec 19, 2018 neutral
Disclosure
Mask: Infusionsoft lowered LTV by introducing a $99 price point
“Our LTV has gone down as well because we're bringing on a custom, because we now have a 99 dollar price point and customers who can come in without paying, you know, 250 or 300 dollars out the gate.”
Clate Mask Dec 19, 2018 ▶ 11:52 1243 Infusionsoft North of $100m in ARR, Details of Mars Mission to 5m SMB Customers
Mar 6, 2019
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Webflow's average customer LTV is just over $1,000
“Our average LTV is a little north of a thousand dollars.”
Vlad Magdalin Mar 6, 2019 ▶ 12:35 1320 $14m in ARR on $2.9m Raised Inventing New Visual Way to Code Service 3000 Freelancers
Apr 1, 2019 neutral
Disclosure
Ironside: CommercialTribe does not track LTV on internal monthly dashboards
“You know, I think we do that more when we're kind of talking to the board and thinking about, you know outside, you know, investors will look at the LTV component. Candidly, it's not one of the things that we're actually using on kind of the monthly dashboard …”
Paul Ironside Apr 1, 2019 ▶ 18:01 1346 How CommercialTribe Broke 125% Net Revenue Retention Annually
May 2, 2019 neutral
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Conveyor assumes a $20,000 enterprise customer LTV
“We usually use the 20 grand LTV for looking at our CAC costs.”
Steven Rhyne May 2, 2019 ▶ 13:19 1377 Moving To Enterprise Reduced Revenue Churn by 50% in Under 12 Months
Jun 2, 2019 positive
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Lumen5 achieves roughly $200 CAC and $600 LTV on paid ads
“On, on our efforts with ads, it's about 200 dollars CAC on a 600 dollar lifetime value, but it's also really hard to calculate because we haven't been around that long, so lifetime value just goes up as the months go by.”
Michael Cheng Jun 2, 2019 ▶ 13:44 1408 Quickly Launch Video Creatives With Automatic Tool Lumen5, $100k in MRR
Jun 7, 2019 positive
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Sherman: Flowhub customer LTV is roughly $44,000 over five years
“So LTV is five years, about 44,000 dollars.”
Kyle Sherman Jun 7, 2019 ▶ 13:31 1413 With $4m in ARR, This Cannabis POS System Is Market Leader Growing 3x YoY
Aug 26, 2019 neutral
Disclosure
Buzzsprout conservatively models customer lifetime value at $300 to $500
“Anywhere between three to 500 dollars. Okay. And so we keep it conservative. We'll typically say 300 dollars.”
Tom Rossi Aug 26, 2019 ▶ 13:33 1493 How Podast Hosting Company Buzzsprout Passed $15k in MRR, 1000 Customers, Bootstrapped
Mar 11, 2020 positive
Disclosure
Jednak: ClientPoint reports $7,000 CAC and $35,000 gross margin-adjusted LTV
“Aggregate total lifetime, you know, value, you know, lifetime you know, value, you know, calculated obviously gross margin, not top line revenue. So calculated the right way is about 35,000 dollars on average across everyone from our tiniest to our biggest. So…”
Andy Jednak Mar 11, 2020 ▶ 11:28 1691 Why This Company Rebranded with $950k Raised Helping Clients Customize Proposals
Aug 5, 2022 bullish
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Crystal increased overall customer LTV from $500 to $2,000
“Ultimately figuring out that we could increase our LTV from around roughly five, roughly 500 to 2000 total. And that's across the whole customer base.”
Drew D'Agostino Aug 5, 2022 ▶ 15:48 How He increased ARPU from $50/mo to $800/mo with one simple change
Apr 27, 2023 positive
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Golden: Software Companies Should Tie Revenue-Share Pricing to LTV Lift
“I think that there's a lot of opportunity for some type of revenue share for LTV. If you're really able to support a company's LTV and increase that, There should be able to be some point of lift that they're going to lose their LTV numbers if your software go…”
Casey Golden Apr 27, 2023 ▶ 15:22 How to upsell discounted customers to generate 10x more in MRR
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