Performance Marketing

topic on 7 shows · 24 statements across 18 episodes

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24 statements about Performance Marketing, every show

20VC Insight
Swulinski: Scaling only winning creatives causes ad performance to crater
“The key thing around creative is not the one creative. It's the package of all of your assets together. They have to be different. They have to, they, to the algorithm, they have to look and feel different. Different ages, different genders, different settings…”
Matt Swulinski Aug 14, 2026 ▶ 20:11 How to Build a $100M Growth Engine: Lessons from Wispr Flow & Superhuman | Matt Swulinski
Ustinov: Automated Performance Marketing Playbooks Were Impossible Before AI Agents
“Like everybody in the industry wanted to build something like this for performance marketing, but that was just impossible before AI agents came in.”
Seva Ustinov Nov 18, 2025 ▶ 47:33 He Manages $100M in Ad Spend With a Trick Nobody Tried Yet
20VC Insight
Alex Schultz: All marketing is ultimately performance marketing
“Performance marketing is all marketing. So people make this distinction that you have brand marketing and performance, you have brand and direct response, and all marketing is performance marketing.”
Alex Schultz Sep 5, 2025 ▶ 43:39 20Growth: Meta CMO Alex Schultz on How All Founders Have to Change Their Marketing Playbook in a World of AI | Is AI Plateauing, What it Means if China Wins the AI Race and Why Zuck is a Generational Leader
WTF Disclosure
Reddy: Subko spent zero rupees on performance marketing over five years
“We've actually spent zero rupees ever in the last five years. On performance.”
Rahul Reddy Mar 3, 2025 ▶ 3:06:48 Ep #22 | WTF are Craft Beverages? Nikhil ft. the Founders of Blue Tokai, Subko, Svami, and Mossant · Nikhil Kamath
Marketing leadership uniquely combines completely uncorrelated disciplines and functions
“When you're a marketing leader, you manage, like, you manage performance marketing, which is a numbers game. You manage designers and brand, and then you manage, like, events and field. Like, there's nothing in between those things that is deeply correlated, a…”
Raaz Herzberg Nov 17, 2024 ▶ 36:05 Building Wiz: the fastest-growing startup in history | Raaz Herzberg (CMO and VP Product Strategy)
SAASTR Assertion Not checkable as stated
Dietrich: Performance marketing is harder than ever amid falling conversion rates
“Conversion rates are down, performance marketing, Is harder than ever.”
Carrie Lou Dietrich Nov 1, 2024 ▶ 2:00 The Top Marketing Strategies for AI-Driven Growth with the CMOs of Snowflake, LinkedIn, and Carta
Performance Marketing Fails to Create Accumulating Advantages
“Performance marketing, though, doesn't create very good accumulating advantages, because it's not an investment.”
Alex Lieberman Jan 29, 2024 ▶ 5:08 Brian Chesky on Startups, Leadership, and Curiosity
Chesky: Performance marketing does not build accumulating advantages
“Performance marketing though, Doesn't create very good accumulating advantages because it's not an investment.”
Brian Chesky Nov 12, 2023 ▶ 12:57 Brian Chesky’s new playbook
20VC Insight
Lerner: Performance marketing translates globally while brand and fintech stay local
“Brand people need to know that the culture of the place that they are doing branding too. Performance works pretty similarly in a lot of different places, right? And then like maybe fintech is a good example where just like the core business models and the inf…”
Ely Lerner Oct 25, 2023 ▶ 24:50 Ely Lerner: Should Startups Hire Advisors & How much should they be paid? | E1075 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
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Zinman: monday.com Saw Lowest Ad Bids in History During Tech Downturn
“Because right now, ah, we, not only we kept doing it, but we actually scaled it, ah, and right now we have, like, the lowest bids, ah, that we ever saw, as a company, because everybody pulled back, A lot of companies reduce spend, and we're more aggressive tha…”
Eran Zinman Oct 10, 2023 ▶ 17:57 Secrets to Scaling and Growth in an Unpredictable Market with monday.com's Co-founder and Co-CEO
SAASTR Insight
Zinman: Multi-Vertical Marketing Prevents Ad Inventory Exhaustion
“One thing that helped us reduce the marketing span was, let's say you focus just on one vertical. Let's say project management. At some point you exhaust the inventory. And then the incremental dollar you put is not as efficient as the first one. So, the fact …”
Eran Zinman Oct 10, 2023 ▶ 20:21 Secrets to Scaling and Growth in an Unpredictable Market with monday.com's Co-founder and Co-CEO
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Narayanan: Myntra ad experiments showed higher click-through rates for fair-skinned models
“And we ran an experiment where you actually look at click through rates long time ago, and you find that the click through rates are actually different. So purely economically, the click through rates on performance marketing were higher.”
Ananth Narayanan Oct 7, 2023 ▶ 1:31:37 Ep #11 | WTF Goes into Building a Fashion, Beauty, or Home Brand? Nikhil w/ Kishore, Raj, and Ananth · Nikhil Kamath
WTF Insight
Narayanan: Performance-driven sales must drop to 30% beyond 100 crores revenue
“That percent from 20 to a hundred, maybe call it fifty-fifty performance and organic. Hundred plus that performance based sales should come down to 30%. Because if it doesn't, 30, 40%, it doesn't, it just, the cost of it keeps going up and up and up and up and…”
Ananth Narayanan Oct 7, 2023 ▶ 1:52:22 Ep #11 | WTF Goes into Building a Fashion, Beauty, or Home Brand? Nikhil w/ Kishore, Raj, and Ananth · Nikhil Kamath
20VC Insight
Howie Liu: Single-User Software Cannot Support Outbound Sales Economics
“If you're taking a single user product out to market it's just harder to make performance marketing work. It's harder to make, you know, you can't really make outbound sales work, right? The economics of, You know, pitching a single user who pays a single and …”
Howie Liu Aug 25, 2023 ▶ 3:03 Howie Liu: Decoding Airtable's $11B Valuation; The Impending AI Revolution in Enterprise | E1053 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
LENNY'S PODCAST Assertion Not checkable as stated
Every unicorn from the 2010s era scaled using performance marketing
“Every unicorn from like the, you know, 20 tens era that that scale did performance marketing, but not everyone during that time who did performance marketing scaled.”
Jonathan Becker May 7, 2023 ▶ 24:07 Mastering paid growth | Jonathan Becker (Thrive Digital)
LENNY'S PODCAST Assertion Not checkable as stated
Google and Facebook automated most technical performance marketing levers over a decade
“So a lot of the levers, so to speak, around performance have been automated by Google and Facebook over the last, you know, seven to 10 years.”
Jonathan Becker May 7, 2023 ▶ 33:25 Mastering paid growth | Jonathan Becker (Thrive Digital)
Companies pursuing performance marketing should hire in-house expertise before engaging an agency
“The reality is you're going to need expertise and you probably should start in-house and then hire an agency.”
Jonathan Becker May 7, 2023 ▶ 1:13:33 Mastering paid growth | Jonathan Becker (Thrive Digital)
Technical and math backgrounds strongly indicate aptitude for performance marketing roles
“So if you're making your first hire, you probably want them to be, to have the ingenuity and capability to solve a lot of the problems that you're going to run into within the context of tracking, attribution, data visualization, and then campaign management. …”
Jonathan Becker May 7, 2023 ▶ 1:18:02 Mastering paid growth | Jonathan Becker (Thrive Digital)
Years of experience is an unreliable indicator when hiring performance marketing practitioners
“I've seen people who have, like, 10 years of experience in the industry not be that great, and then I've seen people who have, like, one year of experience be absolutely phenomenal, so I would say that, like, again, like, you know, the years of service under t…”
Jonathan Becker May 7, 2023 ▶ 1:21:23 Mastering paid growth | Jonathan Becker (Thrive Digital)
NEON SHOW Insight
Khurma: EdTech startups should ramp down performance marketing after initial launch
“You can get your initial zero to one done with performance marketing and, you know, get your initial student base, but then you should steadily have a plan to ramp it down and not rely on it at all.”
Manan Khurma Dec 26, 2022 ▶ 53:23 The Reasons Why Entrepreneurs Fail! Ft. Manan Khurma, Founder - Cuemath | 100x Entrepreneur
Timen: Grammarly was over-reliant on performance marketing before diversifying
“In the case of Grammarly, it was performance marketing, kind of over-reliance on performance marketing during, you know, part of the company's life cycle. And so it was like, okay, this thing is working. It's efficient. So you don't want to stop pouring fire o…”
Yuriy Timen Sep 1, 2022 ▶ 39:13 How to grow a subscription business | Yuriy Timen (Grammarly, Canva, Airtable)
20VC Insight
Growth teams in sales-led SaaS are just rebranded performance marketing
“In a marketing and sales led business where you have a demo trial, you really have the growth teams you find in those businesses sit on marketing and they just run performance marketing. So in the heyday, they were called performance marketing, but growth soun…”
Kieran Flanagan Aug 10, 2022 ▶ 12:59 Kieran Flanagan: Hiring Tips for Growth; North Star Metrics; Hubspot's Mistake | 20VC #916 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
NEON SHOW Insight
Mehta: Startups must invest in brand from day one, not just performance
“Invest in brand as little as possible, but invest in brand, not just performance from day one. Because performance marketing is a commodity. It becomes very quickly.”
Shashank Mehta May 9, 2022 ▶ 58:52 Leaving HUL to Building a D2C Food Brand ft. Shashank Mehta , Founder & CEO - The Whole Truth
20VC Insight
Winters: Performance marketing over-reliance fails within five years without network effects
“The default towards performance marketing is the only channel that matters. It creates a lot of issues long term, especially if you're not network effect driven, where It's going to work really well in year one, not as well in year two, and in year five, you'r…”
Casey Winters Sep 22, 2021 ▶ 39:54 Welcome 20Growth: How To Hire a Head of Growth? What are Signs of World-Class Talent? How To Structure the Process? How To Onboard Growth Teams? The Relationship Between Head of Growth and CEO and more with Casey Winters, Chief Product Officer @ Eventbrit

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