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Zinman: Upmarket SaaS firms become irrelevant by abandoning SMBs
“People don't realize that the SMBs and mid-market of today are the enterprise of tomorrow. So they getting used to use another product, they're getting used to use another platform, and eventually they become the enterprise companies. And then those enterprise…”
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Zinman: Scaling past $1B ARR requires going multi-product
“If you want to scale a company past a billion and even to a billion, you have to go multi-product. There's no other way you can do it.”
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Zinman: Multi-product integration beats standalone best-of-breed CRM solutions
“And because of that, you don't necessarily have to have the best CRM in the world. It might be second place, but because of that integration and because of that data flows between the different products, you get such huge benefit from that, that it's a huge ad…”
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Zinman: Great early salespeople can mask poor product-market fit
“Thinking in retrospect, let's say we had, like, an amazing salesperson in the company. Even though we had, in the beginning, like, a shitty product, that person might be able to sell. And then you get a wrong signal. You get a wrong signal. And because we didn…”
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Zinman: monday.com Saw Lowest Ad Bids in History During Tech Downturn
“Because right now, ah, we, not only we kept doing it, but we actually scaled it, ah, and right now we have, like, the lowest bids, ah, that we ever saw, as a company, because everybody pulled back, A lot of companies reduce spend, and we're more aggressive tha…”
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Zinman: Multi-Vertical Marketing Prevents Ad Inventory Exhaustion
“One thing that helped us reduce the marketing span was, let's say you focus just on one vertical. Let's say project management. At some point you exhaust the inventory. And then the incremental dollar you put is not as efficient as the first one. So, the fact …”
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Zinman: Standard SaaS metrics like LTV, CAC, and ARR ignore actual cash
“All the metrics that you're using you know, LTV to CAC CAC return rate, all of them don't take cash into account, okay? It's not cash. It's not cash. ARR is not cash. CAC is not cash. LTV, well, I don't know what it is, but yeah. It's a bogus metric, but, ah, …”
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Zinman: Mature SaaS companies spend most S&M budget on retaining existing ARR
“As companies have become more mature. Most of their S&M expense Is not spent on acquiring customers. Most of what they spend on is retaining their existing ARR.”
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Zinman: Monday.com's SMB retention proved more stable than enterprise during the downturn
“In the last, You know, 12 months since the economy changed is that we actually found that our SMB budget was more stable than our enterprise segment. So the SMBs NRR, yeah, was actually more stable.”
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Zinman: At $1B ARR, 30% Growth Requires Relying on Existing Customers
“Once, once you reach a billion, if you want to grow 30%,
The majority of revenue is going to come from your existing base, no matter how efficient your marketing is.
And we have a very efficient marketing engine, but yes, like just how math works, most of the …”
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Zinman: HubSpot captured the SMB market because Salesforce moved upmarket
“Eventually you abandon the mid-market SMB segment, and then you have this huge vacuum. You leave a huge vacuum in the market. I think to some extent, I'm not an expert, but that will happen with Salesforce and HubSpot. Salesforce moved up market in a way. HubS…”
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Zinman: monday.com chose AI consumption pricing expecting slower headcount growth
“Eventually we made the decision to charge per consumption and not tie it to the seat model. Because I think that if this is going to be widely successful, Maybe some of our customers would not hire as many people as they plan to.”
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Zinman: Sell SMBs specific tools first, gradually revealing platform depth
“You don't need to tell the whole story from the beginning especially when you sell to SMBs. I think that we focused on giving them value as soon as possible. So if you were searching for a project management or CRM, we wanted to serve them a CRM or a project m…”
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Zinman: monday.com's biggest product leaps came from unexpected features, not customer requests
“I think every time we made a leap in terms of product features, it wasn't because of feedback we got from customers. I always like to talk with customers, but actually the major leaps was things they didn't expect. So for example automations was a huge driver …”
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Zinman: How monday.com spent $25M on marketing with $5M in cash
“When we had five million in a bank, we spent twenty-five million In performance marketing. Now, how do you do that? Because we recycle the money super quickly. We would spend, let's say, 300 K on performance marketing, and then after one month, we saw 50% back…”
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Zinman: Founders should optimize for free cash flow rather than P&L profitability
“P&L, profitable, is not a way to optimize your company, ah, and free cash flow is much better because this is something that you can do things with it”
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Zinman: For enterprise buyers, a human sales rep is the product
“What I found is that the most amazing product for enterprise companies is to have a person talking with them. You know, it's like they wanna talk with somebody. They have security issues, they have governance, they need help. And this is just a better product.”
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Zinman: At Scale, a SaaS Company's Growth Rate Becomes Its NRR
“As you scale, even though you do performance marketing, you do the Super Bowl, you do whatever you want, that increment is going to be insignificant compared to the subscription revenue you already have. So, let's say you want to grow 30%, 40%. How do you do i…”
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Zinman: Multi-year contracts can mask looming churn waves in hyper-growth SaaS
“And let's say you in hyper growth and sign a lot of revenue into two or three year contract, you know, you might find out in three years that you have a huge churn wave coming up that you didn't predict.”
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Zinman: monday.com Gross Retention Is at an All-Time High
“We have our highest gross attention
Ever, I would say, currently.
The gross attention of the company, given the economy, given everything that's happening in the world just to give people context, like, we see gross attention going up, actually.”
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Zinman: monday CRM is growing faster than core monday.com originally grew
“We have great momentum with CRM, and we're super proud of the growth, and it's actually grown faster than what Monday did back in the day, which is pretty impressive.”
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Zinman: GTM messaging must target specific search intent over abstract platforms
“Nobody went on Google and searched for a flexible software to manage my business, right? Like, nobody does that. People search for project management, they search for CRM, so we had to change from, like, there's the company vision on one hand, but there's the …”
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Zinman: 70% of monday.com's Customers Have Always Been Non-Tech
“From day one, 70% of our customers were non-tech, and non-tech, I mean, you can see here, like real estate, banking, construction, even churches were using us back in the days and now.”
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Zinman: monday.com holds more cash than total venture and IPO capital raised
“We had more cash in the bank than we ever raised from VCs and the public market.”
