Brian Chesky
Co-founder and CEO, Airbnb · 1 appearance on the record.
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Brian Chesky co-founded Airbnb in 2008 alongside Joe Gebbia and Nathan Blecharczyk, steering the peer-to-peer home-sharing platform from its inception through its multi-billion-dollar 2020 IPO. A graduate of the Rhode Island School of Design, he is known for applying design-led principles to technology and popularizing hands-on, founder-led operational management.
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Chesky: Tech company CEOs should act as chief product officers
“I think the CEO should be basically the chief product officer of a product or tech company. And the CEO is not the chief product officer. Then I don't know if they're a product or tech led company.”
Chesky: Leaders cannot evaluate performance without being in the details
“I think there's a difference between micromanagement, which is like telling people exactly what to do and being in the details, being the details is what every responsible company's board does to the CEO. It doesn't mean the board is telling them what to do, b…”
Chesky: Companies should have no pure people managers lacking domain expertise
“I think that every leader should be an expert in what they're leading. There should be no people managers in the entire company. And when I say people managers, meaning your only responsibility is people, not the work or not the domain, because you can't manag…”
Chesky: Micromanaging operational details upfront creates long-term executive time
“If you decide to be in the details and get very, very hands on, like I did, it might be a lot more work for about one to two years. And so for one to two years, it was way more work than the old way. But once we turned the corner, suddenly everyone started row…”
Chesky: Airbnb merged product management with product marketing
“What we did is we combined what one might call the inbound product development responsibilities of product manager with the outbound or marketing responsibilities of product marketing.”
Chesky: Performance marketing does not build accumulating advantages
“Performance marketing though, Doesn't create very good accumulating advantages because it's not an investment.”
Chesky: Compromising on how to run a company makes everyone miserable
“I think that like way too many founders apologize for how they want to run the company. I don't know why they do, but I think they apologize for how they want to run the company. They basically find some midpoint between how they want to run a company and how …”
Chesky: Companies should allocate 80% to big leaps, 20% to optimization
“Think of conversion and growth optimization as like running a football down a field and think of these big, like leaps as passive. You should probably be doing 80% passes, 20% running the ball down the field, and a lot of companies, they do 80% running down th…”
Chesky: Design should report to the founder, not under product management
“I would make sure that you have engineering and design ideally report to the founder product-led person. I would not have design under product unless you have an extremely good reason the product person kind of is a designer.”
Chesky: Flat design is ending in favor of texture and dimensionality
“I'd like to like make the announcement that I think flat design is over or ending. You know, I think if you remember the 2000 was dominated by skeu morphism. The 2010 have been dominated with the launch of iOS seven by flat design. I think we're going to move …”
Chesky: Silicon Valley designers are extremely frustrated with product development
“I think designers in the Valley are very, very frustrated with the product development process, not to say the product managers, but they're extremely frustrated. And I think a lot of designers feel like they're compromising many designers.”
Chesky: Silicon Valley treats design as a mere service organization
“Silicon Valley often treats design as a service organization. You know, like design is catching things before it go out the door. It's not actually typically part of the development process.”
Chesky: Design leaders must manage design first and people second
“A design leader's job should be managing the design first, the people second.”
Chesky: Airbnb eliminated UX writing and combined it with marketing writing
“We got rid of A function called UX writing, and we combined it with marketing writing.”
Chesky: Airbnb operates on a rolling two-year roadmap updated biannually
“Now what we do is we do, we have a rolling two-year roadmap. We don't even really do an annual plan. I mean, we, as you remember, Lenny, when you were at Airbnb, we would have like three month planning cycles. Now, planning cycle is just a budgeting cycle, and…”
Chesky: Airbnb spent $1B on Google AdWords in 2019
“And by 2019, We're spending a billion dollars on AdWords.”
Chesky: Airbnb lost 80% of its business in eight weeks during COVID-19
“And then the pandemic occurred and we lost 80% of our business in eight weeks.”
Chesky: Airbnb replaced outside ad agencies with an in-house creative agency
“So we use production partners, but we don't use Widening Kennedy or Shite or any of those anymore. We actually build our own in-house agency, so to speak, which is a creative group.”
Chesky: Forcing 10x scale unlocks problem solving via first-principles thinking
“One of the best ways to get unstuck from a problem is to imagine a 10 x scale, or 10 x better, or 10 x faster, where you can't do the current process to do it. You have to think differently about the problem. And to think differently about the problem means yo…”
Chesky: Company speed is governed by decisiveness, not work hours
“The pace of the team is one of the most important things you can do, and that pace is sometimes governed not by how hard people work, but how decisive they are. If you want to improve the speed of a company, then make faster decisions. And that fast decisions …”
Chesky: Founders fail by letting inboxes set agendas instead of strategy
“A lot of founders spend their time based on reacting. So people will email them, and they'll wake up, and they'll respond to emails, and suddenly their email sets the agenda. People ask for meetings, and suddenly the meetings they take are based on the people …”
Chesky: Founders 1-2 years ahead give more useful early-stage advice
“And I think you don't need to reach out to people 10 years ahead of you. They can just be people a year ahead of you. In fact, an entrepreneur getting started, I might be less useful then than somebody two years ahead of them that knows, like, the latest distr…”
Chesky: Industrial design training was essential to building Airbnb
“I don't think I could have ever done what I did if I wasn't an industrial designer. I think industrial designer is different than a graphic designer, because an industrial designer, you have to actually understand, you know, you have to work with engineering i…”
The other half of the tape: Brian Chesky's own voice is left out of every number here. Other people bring the name up 156 times in 41 episodes on Lenny's Podcast. 17 statements on the record name them. every mention, with the transcript →
Who brings them up most Lenny Rachitsky 92Chip Conley 15Jessica Livingston 7Mike Maples, Jr. 5Jason Shah 5Vlad Loktev 4Shishir Mehrotra 4Howie Liu 4
Statements about Brian Chesky, by other people (17)
Rachitsky: Airbnb renamed its product management function to product marketing
“And I don't know if you know this, but actually at Airbnb,
The product management function has been renamed to product marketing.
So all the product managers are product marketers because Brian is so big on, you're not just building product, your job is also…”
Airbnb intentionally slowed product velocity to fix declining quality
“The quality like of what we were releasing kind of suffered because we were just push, push, push, ship, ship, and people were shipping across the board. And I did feel as a leader, like I wasn't proud of some of the things we were shipping. And so I appreciat…”
Rachitsky: Brian Chesky personally reviewed every Airbnb product screen
“Like he used to review every product launch and every screen of every new product. Like we had to show him, here's what we're launching this week and just kind of went through and either blew it up or let it pass.”
Product reviews with Brian Chesky kept Airbnb employees up all night
“For the product team, my God, I mean, a product meeting with Brian would keep people up the night before not just because they were actually working all night long to get prepared, but also the, they knew they would work all night long because they probably wo…”
Brian Chesky consulted ex-CIA head George Tenet during 2011 Airbnb crisis
“I remember back in 2011 when the, you know, the big debacle happened with the apartment getting trashed by a guest and. And so Brian decided he was going to go to find, you know, George Tenet, the former head of the CIA.”
10x goals are valuable for testing creative extremes, not hitting targets
“The reality is it's not about hitting the goal. It's about thinking how to hit the goal and going through the journey of that creative journey of like, what does the world need to look like for this to be true? This like crazy goal to be true. Like, how should…”
Maples: Brian Chesky offered an Airbnb seed investment at a $1.5M valuation
“I think he offered me a chance to invest in a 1.5 million dollar valuation.”
Y Combinator hated Airbnb's original idea and tried to change it
“Like we hated their idea and Paul tried to get Brian and Joe and Nate to change it.”
Airbnb's search relevance team launched nothing without an A/B test
“One is in my team in search relevance, everything was A-B tested. So while Brian can focus on some of the design aspects, the people who are actually doing, you know, the neural networks and the search, Everything was AB tested to help. So nothing was launchin…”
Mehrotra: Brian Chesky prioritizes to-do lists by maximal leverage, not urgency
“Brian also has another one that's in the book. That's about how to rank your to-do list by finding leverage. That's a really fun one as well. And like don't rank your to-do list, but a lot of people do like importance versus urgency or so on. And I guess he so…”
Brian Chesky sought out Chip Conley because he loved his book 'Peak'
“I had written a book called peak how great companies get their mojo from Maslow. And it was a book that Brian really liked. And part of the reason he wanted to reach out to me.”
Align on goals upfront to anchor meetings with intense founders like Chesky
“You start with that because that actually helps to make sure there's alignment. And frankly, if there's not alignment, You might as well not have the meeting. Let's spend the rest of this meeting talking about alignment. That's what I would do because that's s…”
Brian Chesky's leadership growth stems from directly consulting domain experts
“And a lot of his like secret sauce is not being afraid to ask people for help who are experts in the thing that you're trying to learn.”
Airbnb CEO Brian Chesky acts as the chief editor for all products
“At Airbnb, you know, Brian Chesky is like the editor of all the things that, you know, come together”
Rachitsky: Chesky dedicated a year and homepage takeover to launch Trips
“Brian basically focused on that full time for a while, for like a year. That's the thing he was focused on. We're going to make this thing work. And I'm going to PM this thing and make it work and make it awesome. And when they launched, the easy thing to do w…”
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2026 3 mentions in 2 episodes 2 per episode
2025 73 mentions in 11 episodes 7 per episode
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- $46B of hard truths: Why founders fail and why you need to run toward fear | Ben Horowitz (a16z)
- How we restructured Airtable's entire org for AI | Howie Liu (co-founder and CEO)
- Growth tactics from OpenAI and Stripe’s first marketer | Krithika Shankarraman
- How Revolut trains world-class PMs: The “Local CEO” model, raw intellect & building wow products
- Inside monday.com’s transformation: Radical transparency, impact over output, & the path to $1B ARR
- How to win in the AI era: Ship weekly, embrace technical debt, ruthlessly cut scope, and more
- “I deliberately understaff every project” | Leadership lessons from Rippling’s $16B journey
- 3 more episodes that year, every mention in 2025 →
2024 25 mentions in 7 episodes 4 per episode
- The social radar: Y Combinator’s secret weapon | Jessica Livingston (co-founder of YC, author)
- Pattern Breakers: How to find a breakthrough startup idea | Mike Maples, Jr. (Partner at Floodgate)
- Embracing chaos, inquiry over advocacy, poking the bear, and “impact, impact, impact” | Vlad Loktev
- Breaking the rules of growth: Why Shopify bans KPIs, optimizes for churn, and prioritizes intuition
- Dylan Field live at Figma's Config: Intuition, simplicity, and the future of design
- How a great founder becomes a great CEO | Jonathan Lowenhar (co-founder of Enjoy The Work)
- The original growth hacker reveals his secrets | Sean Ellis (author of “Hacking Growth”)
- every mention in 2024, scene by scene →
2023 42 mentions in 18 episodes 2 per episode
- Jason Fried challenges your thinking on fundraising, goals, growth, and more
- Brian Balfour: 10 lessons on career, growth, and life
- Building minimum lovable products, stories from WeWork & Airbnb, and thriving as a PM | Jiaona Zhang
- Building beautiful products with Stripe’s Head of Design | Katie Dill (Stripe, Airbnb, Lyft)
- The ultimate guide to A/B testing | Ronny Kohavi (Airbnb, Microsoft, Amazon)
- The 10 traits of great PMs, AI, and Slack’s approach to product | Noah Weiss (Slack, Google)
- The science of product, big bets, and how AI is impacting the future of music | Gustav Söderström
- Billion dollar failures, and billion dollar success | Tom Conrad (Quibi, Pandora, Pets.com, Zero)
- 10 more episodes that year, every mention in 2023 →
Appearances (1)
| Episode | Date | Speaking time |
|---|---|---|
| Brian Chesky’s new playbook | Nov 12, 2023 | 54m |