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Verrilli spends 10x more time in data, talks less to data scientists
“So I don't know what the future of data science looks like, but I think as a product manager, I've spent less time in the last year talking to a data scientist than I ever have in my career, even though I've probably spent 10 times more time in data and unders…”
Tom Verrilli Aug 2, 2026 ▶ 36:50 This CPO regrets that product management exists | Tom Verrilli (CPO of Whatnot)
SOURCERY Opinion
Pim de Witte: Most AI development is just glorified data science
“Most of AI is just glorified data science.”
Pim de Witte Jul 19, 2026 ▶ 13:50 AMD, Starcloud, Coatue..10 Hot Takes From The Biggest Names in AI · Sourcery with Molly O'Shea
LENNY'S PODCAST Prediction Not checkable as stated
Mosseri: Strongest product staff will convert from design and data science
“I actually think some of our strongest product staff are going to be converts from design and from data science who are just looking to expand their reach.”
Adam Mosseri Jul 9, 2026 ▶ 10:14 The rise of taste, human authenticity and judgment in an AI world | Adam Mosseri (Head of IG)
LENNY'S PODCAST Prediction Not checkable as stated
Singhal: Product roles will see influx of engineering, data, and design talent
“Meanwhile, I think a lot of people going into product might be coming from design, might be coming from data science, might be coming from engineering because the ones that have judgment, the ones that can talk, the ones that want to stay current, they might b…”
Nikhyl Singhal Apr 19, 2026 ▶ 1:10:50 Why half of product managers are in trouble | Nikhyl Singhal (Meta, Google)
TBPN Disclosure
Coatue employs 20 to 30 data scientists for alternative data research
“We now have, I don't know, maybe 20 or twenty-ish, 20 to 30 people, something like that, in data science that are just processing different types of data and alternative data.”
Thomas Laffont Apr 7, 2026 ▶ 32:19 FULL INTERVIEW: Thomas Laffont’s Journey From Hollywood Assistant to Legendary Tech Investor
Mahr: Traditional software engineering demand softened while AI talent soars
“In the same way that folks with data science backgrounds and AI knowledge are super in demand, the software programming space has hit a little bit of a soft patch. There's a lot of opportunities to hire great engineers these days.”
Daniel Mahr Nov 20, 2025 ▶ 49:44 Daniel Mahr – Glass Box Quant at MDT Advisers (EP.472)
Husain: AI evals are just standard data science applied to AI products
“People say the word eval is trying to kind of like carve out this new thing, and saying, you know, evals, and then A-B testing, but if you zoom out, it's the same data science as before, and I think that's what's causing the confusion is, hey, we need data sci…”
Hamel Husain Sep 25, 2025 ▶ 1:19:26 Why AI evals are the hottest new skill for product builders | Hamel Husain & Shreya Shankar
MAD Insight
Rogojan: Organizations repeat foundational data mistakes in every AI hype cycle
“People Kind of go through the same iterations. New people come to the space or possibly maybe it's more the business side get really excited by the prospect of what AI or data science or neural networks, whatever iteration we're in can do. And then we kind of …”
Ben Rogojan (Seattle Data Guy) Jan 23, 2025 ▶ 1:34 Understanding Data Engineering in 2025 | Ben Rogojan, Seattle Data Guy
MAD Insight
Douetteau: Adding data scientists does not bridge the enterprise business-data gap
“It should not be solved by adding more data scientists, because anyway, there's not enough data scientists, and if they don't understand the business, there's no point. It should be solved by finding a way for people from the business that are very much into d…”
Florian Douetteau Dec 12, 2024 ▶ 10:42 Dataiku's Secret to Scaling AI in Global Enterprises | Florian Douetteau, CEO, Dataiku
NO PRIORS Opinion
Mansour: Most data science and published health papers are "total garbage"
“One, generally speaking, don't listen to data scientists. Data science is mostly bullshit. Health papers and stuff like most of them are just total garbage.”
Tarek Mansour Oct 31, 2024 ▶ 15:04 No Priors Ep. 88 | With Founder & CEO of Kalshi Tarek Mansour
LATENT SPACE Prediction Not checkable as stated
Liu: Data science skill sets will outvalue traditional machine learning engineering
“I think a lot more data science is going to come in versus machine learning engineering, because a lot of it now is just quantifying, like, what does the business actually want as an outcome, right?”
Jason Liu Apr 24, 2024 ▶ 1:01:10 High Agency Pydantic over VC Backed Frameworks — with Jason Liu of Instructor
Antin: Companies must stop siloing separate research and insights disciplines
“They were like, listen, we have all these different people throwing insights over the transom. And it's great. We want to hear from the data scientists, from the product specialists, from the customer service people and the voice of the customer, whatever, all…”
Judd Antin Jan 4, 2024 ▶ 49:44 The UX Research reckoning is here | Judd Antin (Airbnb, Meta)
WE LIVE TO BUILD Assertion Not checkable as stated
Staus: Externalities Account for 65% to 70% of Modeled Situations
“It's a staple of data science, ok, that 65 to 70% of any given situation that you're trying to model is externalities, or let's call it the wave that you don't control, but you are seeking to surf.”
Mark Staus Dec 19, 2023 ▶ 15:14 Founders Only Capture 5% of the Value They Actually Create
Johari: Every marketplace relies on data science for finding, making, and learning matches
“Every single thing I just said, finding potential matches, making matches, and then learning about those matches, and then, you know, cycling back again, that is the data science of marketplaces. And I feel like every marketplace that you could think of, you k…”
Ramesh Johari Nov 9, 2023 ▶ 10:54 Marketplace lessons from Uber, Airbnb, Bumble, and more | Ramesh Johari (Stanford professor)
Johari: Measuring teams solely on impact stifles creative, strategic work
“It's basically because if you're measured narrowly on impact and that's all anyone sees around you, then it's very hard to engage with the creative aspect of business change and the strategic aspects of business change.”
Ramesh Johari Nov 9, 2023 ▶ 54:15 Marketplace lessons from Uber, Airbnb, Bumble, and more | Ramesh Johari (Stanford professor)
Johari: AI puts more pressure on human data scientists, not less
“What AI has done for us is it's massively expanded the frontier of things we could think about our problem, hypotheses we could have, maybe things we could test. It's just an astronomical explosion of explanations and ideas and principle. And I really think ac…”
Ramesh Johari Nov 9, 2023 ▶ 1:09:48 Marketplace lessons from Uber, Airbnb, Bumble, and more | Ramesh Johari (Stanford professor)
Johari: AI-Generated Text Can Be Dangerous in Data Science
“In the same way that AI generates a lot of ideas, AI also generates a lot of pros. And in data science, that can actually be deadly because you're getting more explanations that sometimes maybe are extraneous, you know?”
Ramesh Johari Nov 9, 2023 ▶ 1:22:18 Marketplace lessons from Uber, Airbnb, Bumble, and more | Ramesh Johari (Stanford professor)
MAD Insight
Carly Taylor: Centralized data teams lose domain depth, embedded teams lose standards
“As soon as you centralize something, you will inevitably lose the deep expertise you can get from embedding, but as soon as you embed everyone, you lose that, like, you know, Center of excellence where everyone comes together and you set standards for your dat…”
Carly Taylor Sep 14, 2023 ▶ 15:53 From Xbox to Databricks: Carly Taylor’s Rebel Path in Data Science & Gaming AI
MAD Assertion Not checkable as stated
Carly Taylor: Gaming data teams have better diversity than core programming roles
“I see more representation in, in data teams than I do for something, let's say like the, I don't know, hardware level programming. You know, which has just historically been, like, a lot of these, like, deep nitty-gritty computer science fields have been, like…”
Carly Taylor Sep 14, 2023 ▶ 17:38 From Xbox to Databricks: Carly Taylor’s Rebel Path in Data Science & Gaming AI
MAD Opinion
Wiggins: Data science, not physics, won World War II
“I grew up as a physicist thinking that, you know, physics really won World War II, but now that I'm a data scientist, I realize that it was actually data science that won World War II, but that story was classified for about 75 years, which is the story of how…”
Chris Wiggins May 31, 2023 ▶ 9:33 A Conversation with Chris Wiggins - Author of "How Data Happened"
NEON SHOW Insight
Khurma: Mathematical thinking is foundational for all analytical careers and will grow in importance
“I think when you look at all the analytical skills, whether, and all the analytical professions today, data science, statistics, AI, ML, Product management, for example, and so on. All of it has math thinking at its core. If this is a solar system of skills, t…”
Manan Khurma Dec 26, 2022 ▶ 48:52 The Reasons Why Entrepreneurs Fail! Ft. Manan Khurma, Founder - Cuemath | 100x Entrepreneur
MAD Prediction Not checkable as stated
Dehghani: Data engineering and data science will become basic engineering skills
“I think one of the big changes would be, we'll move from this specialized and specialization to generalization. So some of the things that we consider specialization today, like data engineering, a large portion of what we call data science becomes basic engin…”
Zhamak Dehghani Oct 27, 2021 ▶ 24:15 Fireside Chat: Zhamak Dehghani (Founder, Data Mesh) with Matt Turck (Partner, FirstMark)
Insurance actuaries were the original data scientists
“The original quote unquote data scientists were actuaries, right? So these were people who were looking at mortality tables, morbidity tables, dating back hundreds of years, right? Because insurance has been around for hundreds of years and creating models to …”
Jennifer Fitzgerald May 24, 2021 ▶ 18:56 Policygenius: Jennifer Fitzgerald
20VC Prediction Not checkable as stated
Ghodsi: AI will automate office work, unlocking a multi-trillion-dollar TAM
“Pretty much everything that humans are doing in these offices today, that's very repetitive, and it's not extremely creative, can be automated. So I think the impact of data science and AI is going to be massive, definitely in the trillions of dollars, in term…”
Ali Ghodsi Jan 14, 2021 ▶ 40:01 20VC: Databricks CEO, Ali Ghodsi on The 3 Phases of Startup Growth, How to Evaluate Risk and Downside Scenario Planning & Who, What and When To Hire When Scaling Your Go-To-Market
NEON SHOW Insight
Lunia: Financial services is about product and service, not data science
“And eventually financial services is not about great technology, it's not about great algorithms, it's not about great data science, it is simply about great product and great service, right?”
Anand Lunia Feb 17, 2020 ▶ 34:22 Episode 52 | Anand Lunia, General Partner, IndiaQuotient
MAD Insight
Wang: Data science is an analytical literacy rather than a job role
“Data science is not actually a job or a role. It's a literacy”
Peter Wang Oct 25, 2019 ▶ 5:04 Data Science Is A Literacy, Not A Job // Peter Wang, Anaconda (FirstMark's Data Driven NYC)
MAD Disclosure
Duality Technologies is fundamentally a data science company, not just security
“Though ostensibly duality technologies is really about security and cryptography, we're actually very much heart and soul at, a data science company, and how we can enable analytics on data that is protected and sensitive.”
Kurt Rohloff Oct 22, 2019 ▶ 1:18 Computing On Encrypted Data // Kurt Rohloff, Duality (Firstmark's Data Driven NYC)
20VC Insight
Hsu: Accounting was the original form of data science
“I think the biggest misconception here is that the only way to use data is like the way that machine learning or AI works. You know, people overlook things like good old-fashioned accounting. You know, accounting was sort of the very first data science.”
Jonathan Hsu Jun 17, 2019 ▶ 26:05 20VC: Why Historical Loss Ratios Are Simply Too High, Why Data Is The #1 Most Important Piece When Evaluating Effective Reserve Allocation & Why Nothing Is Truly Defensible Today with Jonathan Hsu, Co-Founder and General Partner @ Tribe Capital
MAD Insight
Shahalizadeh: Answering simple questions drives more data impact than machine learning
“And I think that's sort of a neglected part of data science. Everyone talks about, like machine learning and building all of these data products, but I think lots of the impact, lots of the trust and usage of data actually comes from being able to answer to so…”
Solmaz Shahalizadeh Jun 12, 2019 ▶ 31:36 Fireside Chat: Solmaz Shahalizadeh, VP of Data Science & Engineering at Shopify (Data Driven NYC)
MAD Insight
Stancil: Data roles divide into machine-automation modelers versus human-decision analysts
“There's folks who build models to help machines make decisions, and there's folks who, like, build charts and help people, humans make decisions at a much lower frequency.”
Benn Stancil May 13, 2019 ▶ 18:53 The Case for Hiring More Analysts // Benn Stancil, Mode (FirstMark's Data Driven NYC)
MAD Insight
Perret: Data engineering is significantly harder than data science at Plaid
“We see ourselves very much as a data company, and we thought that data science in the early days would be a really key part of our strategy, and it is, but the data engineering challenge is so immensely harder that kind of data science kind of, in terms of tea…”
Zach Perret May 13, 2019 ▶ 16:09 Fireside Chat: Zach Perret, Founder & CEO of Plaid (FirstMark's Data Driven NYC)
a16z Prediction Not checkable as stated
Levine: Data science will replace traditional coding as computer science foundation
“You know, I think that data science will become the new academic approach in computer science. There'll be less coding and more about data science. New algorithms for data science, new Approaches to understand the world around us. So, you know, we can call thi…”
Peter Levine Jan 2, 2019 ▶ 9:37 a16z Podcast | The End (and Beginning) of Programming
a16z Prediction Not checkable as stated
Pandey: Pharma companies will reframe themselves as data science companies
“Pharma companies will start to view themselves more as data generating companies and data science companies.”
Vijay Pande Jan 2, 2019 ▶ 9:06 a16z Podcast | When (and How) Biology Becomes Engineering
a16z Assertion Supported
Dhillon: Capital One built a massive business using early data science
“Capital One, who is, I would say, the original data science company, figured out tens of billions of dollars of business, giving credit cards to people who others had denied, and making it profitable using Data science.”
Gaurav Dhillon Jan 2, 2019 ▶ 13:53 a16z Podcast | From Data Warehouses to Data Lakes
MAD Prediction Not checkable as stated
Douetteau: Global manufacturing will adopt data science within ten years
“So I guess that it will also get to global manufacturing in the next 10 years, probably.”
Florian Douetteau Sep 17, 2018 ▶ 17:40 The Launch of Dataiku 5 // Florian Douetteau, Dataiku (FirstMark's Data Driven NYC)
MAD Insight
De Datta: All AI, machine learning, and data science is vertical-specific
“All data science And all AI and all ML is fundamentally vertically specific. Which is the dirty secret about AI and ML powered businesses. They are fundamentally vertical problems.”
Raj De Datta Jun 8, 2018 ▶ 8:57 10 Lessons from Building Data Driven Software // Raj De Datta, BloomReach (FirstMark's Data Driven)
MAD Insight
Raj De Datta: Data science software requires workflow or infrastructure integration
“At least in software, enterprise software, the value of data science is, is hugely valuable as a source of differentiation. But it's only valuable if presented along with either a workflow problem or an infrastructure problem.”
Raj De Datta Jun 8, 2018 ▶ 13:41 10 Lessons from Building Data Driven Software // Raj De Datta, BloomReach (FirstMark's Data Driven)
MAD Insight
Applying data science creates a common vocabulary of risk for cybersecurity
“Because it helps us to create this vocabulary of risk. It's a common language that enables us to have practical conversations across entire organization, whether you're a security practitioner or engineer, or you sit on the board or the audit committee to disc…”
Sam Kassoumeh Oct 26, 2017 ▶ 2:25 Cybersecurity Data at Scale // Sam Kassoumeh & Bob Sohval, SecurityScorecard (Data Driven)
Segala: Data science challenges across different industry verticals are fundamentally identical
“So when you look at data science in general, Across any vertical, doesn't matter, you can pick a vertical, the problems or the challenges, they don't like when you say problems, the challenges that we're solving are unanimous, right? If you're looking at healt…”
Michael Segala Jul 16, 2017 ▶ 13:11 722: This Machine Learning Agency did $800k Last Year
MAD Insight
Elprin: Rapid model deployment creates feedback loops that sustain team funding
“If you've actually built something that works, how quickly can you get it out into the business? Because that, that creates the feedback loop that that creates credibility and buy-in to continue sort of investing in the work that's going on.”
Nick (Domino Data Lab) Nov 9, 2016 ▶ 7:52 Lessons Learned from Advanced Data Science Orgs // Domino Data Lab [FirstMark's Data Driven]
MAD Insight
Groschupf: Aspiring students should rethink choosing data science as a career
“So if you have to make a career choice to study data science today, I would rethink that. And I'm serious.”
Stefan Groschupf Dec 17, 2015 ▶ 16:52 The Acceleration of Innovation in Big Data w/ Stefan Groschupf, Datameer
MAD Prediction Not checkable as stated
Achin: Automated tools and education will solve the data scientist shortage
“And, ah, the shortage of data scientists will be solved by a combination of pragmatic education, practical education, and, ah, tools that automate the modeling process and automate data science to levels which are, right now, probably most of us in the room th…”
Jeremy Achin Nov 23, 2015 ▶ 17:02 Black Boxes and Unicorns - DataRobot CEO Jeremy Achin
KNOWLEDGE PROJECT Assertion Not checkable as stated
Dixon: Using data science to predict startup success yields poor results
“People have tried many, many times to use data science and other things to try to quantify these kinds of questions you're asking and the results have been pretty, pretty poor. It's very, it's been very hard to predict these things.”
Chris Dixon Nov 13, 2015 ▶ 34:07 #5 Chris Dixon: The State of Venture Capital
MAD Insight
Biewald: Only five out of 100 feature engineering attempts actually improve models
“Every task that you work on has kind of different different features work better or worse, and I spent, when I first was working as a data scientist, I spent all my time on this feature selection, and as you guys know, you try a hundred things and maybe five o…”
Lukas Biewald Sep 14, 2015 ▶ 2:45 Lukas Biewald, CrowdFlower // Enriching Your Data (Hosted by FirstMark Capital)
MAD Insight
Separating data engineering from data science ties expensive employees' hands
“If you're hiring a bunch of data scientists and then making them dependent on a different organization for engineering is basically Hiring some really expensive people, and then tying their hands behind their back, and you know, that's not a smart thing to do,…”
David Glueck Jun 19, 2015 ▶ 5:03 David Glueck, Bonobos // Data Science & Engineering at Bonobos (Hosted by FirstMark Capital)
MAD Insight
Data science differs from ML through interdisciplinary domain collaboration
“The thing that makes data science different from machine learning is not just getting epsilon better predictive accuracy on learning, you know, cat's faces from pictures. It's this thing where you interact with somebody from a different discipline, and then so…”
Chris Wiggins Jan 16, 2015 ▶ 4:07 Chris Wiggins, NY Times // Data Science at The New York Times (Hosted by FirstMark Capital)
MAD Insight
Product teams lacking data science, engineering, or product management are unstable
“The data science product engineering trifecta was just a very, very powerful combination. And when you were lacking one, it didn't, it was unstable.”
Catherine Williams Nov 20, 2014 ▶ 20:11 Michael Rubenstein and Catherine Williams, App Nexus // Data Driven #31 // Nov 2014
MAD Insight
Volinsky: Earth Mover's Distance Is a Brilliant Metric for Data Science
“If you've, if you're working in a, if you're doing data science and you need a good distance metric, this, look at the earth mover distance. I had never heard of it before, and it's a brilliant, brilliant piece of science that's, of course, decades old.”
Chris Volinsky Mar 20, 2014 ▶ 17:09 Chris Volinsky, AT&T // Data Driven #25 // March 2014 (Hosted by FirstMark Capital)
MAD Insight
Industry data scientists must aim for 80% perfection, unlike in academia
“Your goal is to go get everything a hundred percent right and then publish, and if that takes a couple of years, then you take a couple years. Ah, in our industry, in, you know, in industry, clearly that's not gonna work. Ah, you wanna probably get to, like, 8…”
Jake Klamka Mar 20, 2014 ▶ 15:22 Jake Klamka, Insight Data Science // Data Driven #25 (Hosted by FirstMark Capital)
MAD Insight
Hilary Mason: Data science deserves its own title combining math, code, and communication
“Data scientists as a job does deserve its own job title because these three things in one professional is new.”
Hilary Mason Dec 5, 2013 ▶ 3:56 Hilary Mason // Data Driven NYC 20 // Nov 2013
MAD Disclosure
Mason: The vast majority of math in data science is quite simple
“So at least in my practice of data science, the vast majority of the math we did was quite simple.”
Hilary Mason Dec 5, 2013 ▶ 4:11 Hilary Mason // Data Driven NYC 20 // Nov 2013
MAD Insight
Data scientists should consider changing the business itself when models fail
“If a model's not working out, you should always ask yourself, can we just change the business? You know, as opposed to somehow optimally solving this problem, can we just stop doing this thing I'm trying to solve?”
John Foreman Dec 5, 2013 ▶ 8:03 John Foreman, Mailchimp // Data Driven NYC 19 // October 2013
MAD Insight
Cathy O'Neil: Bad data science stems from using algorithms without understanding them
“I think a lot of bad data science happens because people are like, I don't really know how this algorithm works. I'm hoping when I press this button, something good comes out. And look, it converged, so it must be okay.”
Cathy O'Neil Dec 5, 2013 ▶ 6:13 Panel Discussion // Data Driven #16 // May 2013
MAD Opinion
Shron: PhD hires in data science often act entitled about personal research
“I feel like the people who I've seen hired in as PhDs often have a sense of entitlement about their, how much they're going to have to be able to work on their own problems at the exclusion of the needs of the company.”
Max Shron Dec 5, 2013 ▶ 8:20 Panel Discussion // Data Driven #16 // May 2013
MAD Insight
Shron: Practical projects yield more value in data science than deep specialization
“There is a lot more to be gained, especially in data science, for having done projects than having necessarily spent two or three years going in depth on one topic.”
Max Shron Dec 5, 2013 ▶ 8:32 Panel Discussion // Data Driven #16 // May 2013
MAD Insight
Shron: Data science projects should start with a need, not a question
“So I don't think it's necessarily that you start with a question. I think you should start with a need. You should first trigger out, what is the problem I'm actually trying to solve before I do anything else?”
Max Shron Dec 5, 2013 ▶ 24:26 Panel Discussion // Data Driven #16 // May 2013
MAD Opinion
O'Neil: Data science is a war of moneyed interests against vulnerable people
“I think of data science as And the general modelization of everything in sight, including education, including getting a job insurance, health, it's a war. And we're losing. Like we are, this is a war of the people who have money and can go hire data scientist…”
Cathy O'Neil Dec 5, 2013 ▶ 37:10 Panel Discussion // Data Driven #16 // May 2013
MAD Insight
Mike Driscoll: Solving real data problems beats taking data science courses
“I think that a lot of people who are interested in data science will, Decide that, you know, I gotta, I should go take a bunch of courses and read a bunch of books, and check a series of boxes, you know and I think that's actually the wrong approach. I think t…”
Mike Driscoll Dec 5, 2013 ▶ 1:56 Panel: Metamarkets, Kaggle and Quid // Data Driven NYC #4 // Mar 2012
MAD Insight
Hilary Mason: Data science sits at the intersection of math, engineering, and hacking
“I tend to think that data science exists in the middle of all of these things. So math, statistics, computer science, and the ability to write algorithms, engineering, and then hacking”
Hilary Mason Dec 5, 2013 ▶ 5:28 Hilary Mason, Bitly // Data Driven NYC #3 // Feb 2012

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