No Code

“The era of no code, of things that we can, humans can do without engineering resources, it's slowly winding down. And if it's in chat, GBT, man, I'm just worried.”

“No code has to be the most impacted, the most disrupted area of SaaS right now, because, I mean, what is Claude Code really good at? I mean, that's the ultimate no code tool.”

“This will be more software, and people will use this to make tools the way they did with no code, and the way they did with Excel, and the way they did with all those previous things, but it doesn't actually fundamentally change the dynamic. It just shifts tho…”

“Every company that I've invested in or otherwise had visibility into that has been no code or has been poorly coded, I will say, I'm just going to assume that AI vibe coding is poorly coded and hard to maintain long term. That may or may not be correct. But wh…”

“Shockingly, I think there's higher order returns to being technical and being able to code than there were. I think there was this moment where maybe we thought everything would be no code. And I think this era of these models being very good at code generatio…”

“So back then, you know, visual basic was the original no code software.”

“And I would never want to be running a million dollar SaaS company that was in no code, personally. I'd be so worried about the brittleness and the scalability and, you know, platform risk and just all those things.”

“Even if you know how to write code and you're great at that, It's a hundred percent better to go with no code, any tool”

“I'm just very strongly of the belief that short of AGI, I think we're gonna have a really hard time having fully automated you know, Cogen agents that replace the need for no code, because You actually want to generate the outputs in no code because for a long…”

“The fact that no code by definition means that the output of the Turing bot, the AI builder, Is actually in a form that a non-technical user can understand. So the very person who's asking the AI to generate the app can then understand fully its outputs.”

“About a year ago, I talked to somebody that had a no code app that was in the e-signature space very, it didn't do the whole thing, but it did, you know, it was pretty aligned. I was like, oh, this is interesting. It was focused on some forms and they'd gotten…”

“Anything, SaaS, everything can be built with no code, and you should. And I'm just like, no, that's a factually inaccurate statement.”

“No code is like coming from this kind of like power user developer angle of wouldn't be nice. Everybody can modify this underlying software they use every day. That's why I go there. It wasn't coming from the angle of the knowledge and data wants to be in one …”

“Migrating off of no code is really hard, right? Compared to AWS, not that that's a breeze, but if you have code that can run on any server, you can move from Heroku to AWS to GCP to Azure to your own homegrown Dell box sitting in your bedroom connected to a fi…”

“That doesn't mean you shouldn't build something in no code. Platform risk exists in a lot of apps, and it certainly exists in the stair-step approach, and what I don't say is, oh, then don't do it, because there's some risk. It's like, realize you're, what you…”

“No code is changing things at a grassroots level. [431] Rob Walling: It's changing things for a lot of people. [432] Rob Walling: AI is going to do that times a hundred.”

“I believe that almost anyone now, especially with no code, but with code, with learning to code, with all the resources online today, that people can change their lives through bootstrapping and not just through software bootstrapping.”

“One of the limitations and downsides to no code is it's not no effort, right? And it's also, you still need to be thinking Logically and linearly about what you want this to do, because the app still can't read your mind.”

“I still think the trade-off of, like, I got this up and running in a couple weeks, in a couple hours, is still worth the, like limitations you might eventually run into. I think it's still worth it to, like, get revenue and get going and get customers first.”

“I know today you could not build drip with no code. It's just, it was a big complex app. It required custom code basically to do it.”

“And I think it's even as prominent today as it was then. I just think even with all this AI stuff, I think they're all actually connected and it's all to do with democratization of software development, like doing more with software without needing to be techn…”

“It's advantageous to build on no code in many ways, especially in these early days, because the cost to maintain it is lower. The ability to ship is faster, and that gives you the ability to move quicker and to adjust to your customer's needs faster, which hel…”

“No code is effectively commoditizing code and giving any founder, technical or non-technical, the ability to start pretty much any business without an engineering background.”

“Every time you abstract and add another layer of abstraction, that's a, another version of no code.”

“Certain things can't be done in no code and it might be a decade before they can be done in no code. So that might be some of the really heavy traffic loads that you would have a social network, like Twitter, Facebook”

“It's still appropriate to call them developers is they do develop software. They just, someone who's developing on bubble. They're developing. They're just not writing code. So you wouldn't call them a coder, but you still call them a developer because they're…”

“You can come out of high school and already start making six figures, and that's something that, you know, has been very hard to do before and has never been easier with no code.”

“No code really is going to become something that again is, has the Bezos yawn factor. Do you just think it's the norm and you stop thinking about it as no code? It's just the way you build software.”

“Some are custom coded apps. Some I have done some coding for, some that I've hired developers for as well. So I'd say the large majority are probably no code related or kind of using existing tools to build something new really.”

“The speed of which you can prototype something Is incredible. You know, you can go from nothing to an app on a hundred people's phones in a couple of hours. I think just that speed of prototyping is a big seller of the no code tools”

“There's definitely lots of room for improvement in the no code space. There's lots of interesting things that people are waiting to be launched. Things like browser extensions and things that kind of push the boundaries of things that can be templated.”