Tech Founders Reported No Deteriorating Business Metrics in July and August
“My standard question is, can you tell me one quantitative data point in your business that's getting worse? Just one. That's my standard question, and it's at least in July and August, I haven't been able to find a single person.”
Murdock: AI tokens are not commodities because model customization changes their value
“I disagree with a token as a token. That may be true at the moment with pretty much frontier models, but I disagree with it because companies like fireworks and others are helping companies to customize. The more you customize the model, the more the token cha…”
Gavin Baker: Generally avoids investing in Elon Musk's competitors
“I don't generally invest in Elon's competitors. I don't think it's a wise course of action.”
Baker: Anthropic reaching $400B to $500B revenue by 2027 is realistic
“I think four to five, I think four to five hundred billion is within the zone of like realistic and achievable.”
Baker: Anthropic is profitable and currently generating cash
“Anthropic is generating cash, and like, they kind of, this fact is, I would say, kind of known in the world, and I've actually never really spoken to Anthropic, but it just, you know, it feels like there are enough signals And then if you're to read the tea le…”
Baker: Closed model dominance creates a tough environment for software companies
“A world where Anthropik, OpenAI, and, you know, maybe even SpaceX are kind of the only model providers that dominate the model layer, that is a hard world for software.”
Baker: Enterprises will adopt composable multi-model 'Council of LLMs' architectures
“I profoundly believe the future is composable models, and you're going to every enterprise, You're going to have what Andre Karpathy called the Council of LLNs.”
Gavin Baker: Open-source AI shifts economic value to infrastructure providers
“They're awesome for the AI infrastructure providers. They just shift economic value from the margins of the frontier labs to the infrastructure.”
Baker: AI GPUs will remain in active use for 7-12 years
“We're going to be using GPUs for Seven years, 10 years, 12 years, and that's great because it lowers the cost to finance them, which makes this AI revolution more financeable.”
Baker: Owned 15% of Nvidia and 10% of Tesla Under $2B Caps
“Well, I did own 15% of the video when it was a sub two billion dollar market cap, but I owned 10% of Tesla when it was a sub two billion dollar market cap.”
Baker: MGM Resorts offers the best risk/reward among pitched trades
“From a pure risk award perspective, I thought MGM was the best. Your downside is really capped because of the Barry Diller bid, and then you have Japan and Dubai as, I think, very valuable future sources of value.”
Baker: Broadly applicable biotech platforms produce rare $100B+ outcomes
“If you ever get a biotech company that can become a platform and they have a mechanism, whether it's of drugging, whether it's targeting, if you have something that is broadly applicable, that is when you can get these really, really big hundred billion dollar…”
Baker: Musk's Infrastructure Became the Fourth-Largest AI Hyperscaler
“In 30 days, we went from not being an AI hyperscaler to being number four, and we passed a lot of companies, including Oracle.”
Gavin Baker: There is no good reason for companies to remain private longer
“I don't think there is actually a good reason to stay private longer.”
Baker: Zipline reduced maternal mortality in African regions by 90% to 95%
“They have cut The maternal mortality rate in some of these African countries by 90 to 95%.”
Loeb: Great Analysts Today Must Master Industry Nuances and Technology
“I think now it's somebody who's like a Gavin Baker type, a junior Gavin Baker, somebody who understands a company or understands an industry and understands the nuances of a technology.”
Baker estimates SpaceX will achieve rapid Starship reusability within 1-2 years
“I don't know when. I don't want to make a prediction. I would guess a year or two. Maybe sooner.”
Baker predicts orbital compute will become a reality between 2028 and 2030
“Second half of 28 to First half of 20 30 would be my point prediction.”
Gavin Baker: Older GPUs have a useful life of 10 to 15 years
“All GPUs use Grok or Cerebrus for decode, and then those older GPUs, they have a useful life for 10 or 15 years, and this means that you can finance GPUs.”
Baker: Drawdowns Are Either Flawed Theses or Opportunities for Pent-Up Alpha
“There are drawdowns where you're wrong, a company missed estimates, your hypothesis was invalidated, and you have to take your medicine and you crystallize that loss. And then there are drawdowns or periods of underperformance where you're underperforming beca…”
Gavin Baker: Families and companies must establish offline safe words against AI deepfakes
“Everybody needs to have a say for it. Everybody needs to go Leave your digital devices behind. Literally go to the ocean and have a family say for it or a company say for it. And it can't be one that can be like socially engineered.”
Baker: Investment success requires a philosophy matching your emotional makeup
“A lot of being successful as an investor is finding an investments philosophy. That fits your own emotional makeup such that you can be rational when you are wrong.”
Baker: Evaluated analysts on clear factual arguments, not hit rate
“I didn't care whether the analysts at Fidelity got their stocks right or wrong. It was utterly immaterial to how I evaluated analysts. There's an analyst, he consistently had some of the worst stock picking metrics in the department. But I made a vast amount o…”
Baker: Investors must urgently focus on data outside probability distributions
“Investing is a Bayesian endeavor. You have a Bayesian probability space of expected outcomes. The data points should fit within that. And then if there's a data point outside that, that's what you have to super focus. If a data points inside your expected prob…”
Baker: Investors must choose to panic early or double down late
“As an investor, you have to either panic early or double down late, and you have to be one of the two. It's hard to be both.”
Gavin Baker: Contrarian style relies on buying 52-week low lists
“For me, I'm a double down late person. I'm always buying stocks on the fifty-two-week low list. It makes me uncomfortable when a name is in the consensus. Sometimes consensus is right, but it's important to me to be contrarian.”
Gavin Baker: Price determines returns only for a given business outcome
“Warren Buffett's famous statement is the price you pay determines your return. I would modify that and say the price you pay determines your return for a given business outcome.”
Experienced investors must calculate DCF models instantly in their heads
“If you've been doing this more than five years and you can't instantly do a DCF in your head, this is the wrong business for you.”
Gavin Baker: Fundamental alpha requires out-of-consensus estimates and correctness
“The alpha in the market as a fundamental investor comes from having earnings estimates or free cash flow estimates or whatever metric you choose that are materially different from consensus and being right.”
Baker: Cut WeWork allocation in half when valuation was pushed
“I did invest in WeWork. They pushed the price, and I did cut my order in half. Never did anymore, to the best of my memory, but it's not like it was all roses or successes.”
Baker: Framing investment ideas as falsifiable hypotheses limits confirmation bias
“Instead of having an investment thesis, we have an investment hypothesis, thesis being a literal statement of belief, and if you state a belief, as a human, you become attached to it, whereas a hypothesis is quantitatively falsifiable, and you're attempting to…”
Baker: Atreides manages fund positions via dynamic pilot and co-pilot roles
“Every position in the fund, I think of it as like an airplane. You can pick any moving vehicle. On some positions, I'm the pilot. On other positions, I'm the co-pilot. Some positions, I'm in the plane, and maybe the pilot or the co-pilot are people who I've wo…”
Baker: Atreides measures annual gap between insight quality and portfolio performance
“For me, execution is the gap between our performance and the performance we could have had based on the quality of our insights. I make an effort to measure that every year.”
Baker: Good stock pickers will be good at shorting stocks
“There's no difference except for the risk, but the same principles apply. If you're good at buying stocks, you're going to be good at shorting stocks.”
Baker: Managing basis risk is essential when running high gross exposure
“If you're going to run a high gross, the most essential thing that you have to manage is basis risk.”
Baker: Long growth and short value pairs create levered factor risk
“You can't be long a stock like GM and be short Tesla. From a quantitative perspective, that makes no sense. If you're long growth and short value, that's equally painful. If you're long value and short growth, that means you're just levered value. If you're lo…”
Understanding a business takes years, not 90 days of due diligence
“It's funny that some investors have an idea that you can do 90 days of work on a business and really understand it. I don't think it's possible. For me, to really understand a business, I need years of history, in some case decades, to see how the business and…”
Baker: AI Uniquely Features Public and Private Rivals Across Every Layer
“I have never seen a new technological trend where at every level of the stack, the competitors are both public and private.”
Baker: Atreides requires trusted founders or board VCs for large private bets
“I don't like to invest in a company and make it a big position unless it's either a repeat founder who I've had a long duration relationship with, or there is a VC who I have a close personal and professional relationship with, Who has a really good track reco…”
Baker: Public companies targeted by short sellers should never publicly respond
“This is what you do the first time you get a short seller, write a report about you. Do not respond. I know it feels so personal. I know how personal it is, but just don't respond. Let the numbers do the talking. If you get in a public fight with them, it's ju…”
Baker: VC operational value-add is wildly overstated and unappreciated by founders
“The short answer is a lot of the operational value add from a lot of these firms is wildly overstated. The wise advice is super not appreciated.”
Baker: Space data centers will be the world's most important development
“I think the most important thing that's going to happen in the world in the next Three to four years is data centers in space.”
Baker: Cooling space data centers is virtually free via dark-side radiators
“In space, cooling is free. You just put a radiator on the dark side of the satellite, and it's as close to absolute zero as you can get. So all that goes away, and that is a vast amount of cost.”
Baker: Laser-linked orbital satellites network faster than Earth data centers
“The only thing faster than a laser going through a fiber optic cable is a laser going through absolute vacuum. So if you can link these satellites in space together using lasers, you actually have a faster and more coherent network than in a data center on Ear…”
Tech-forward enterprises already handle over half of customer support via AI
“You know, it's, you know, it's some big companies that are very tech forward, you know, 50% plus of customer support is already done by AI, and that's a four hundred billion dollar industry.”
The average semiconductor venture startup founder is around 50 years old
“The one thing I just, that I just think is so cool about it and so underappreciated is your average semiconductor venture founder is like 50 years old.”
A 1990s-style DRAM memory shortage cycle could slow down AI expansion
“By the way, something that could slow all this down and be a natural governor is if we get our first true DRAM cycle since the late nineties.”
Baker: Artificial intelligence is not currently in a financial bubble
“I do not believe we're in an AI bubble today.”
Baker: Frontier AI lab gross margins will stay structurally below SaaS
“And the nature of AI because of scaling laws, Richard Sutton's the better listen they're just more compute intensive. So their gross margins are structurally going to be lower. But that doesn't mean they can't be great businesses. I just, I think it's going to…”
Baker: Software companies cannot succeed in AI without margin pressure
“It is definitionally impossible, given what we just discussed, to succeed in AI without gross margin pressure, and I do not know why they have concerns, because we have an existence proof that a software company can deal well with declining margins in Microsof…”
Baker: Major custom AI ASIC programs will be canceled within three years
“In the next three years, I think you'll see a bunch of high-profile ASIC programs canceled, especially if Google starts selling TPUs externally, which has been all over X.”
Baker: AI business models will shift to outcome-based pricing
“Humans were fundamentally paid based on outcomes, and a lot of AI will be augmenting humans, but probably also replacing some humans, and that will involve being paid paid for outcomes.”
Baker: Google avoided outcome models because advertisers systematically overpay for ads
“Because people overvalue systematically their ability once they've acquired a customer through Google to keep it as an organic customer. So they systematically overpay. And they continue doing that. That's why Google never went to outcomes or marketplace, beca…”
Baker: Global robotics market will be Tesla versus China
“Yeah, very real, and it's gonna be Tesla versus the Chinese in the same way it's Tesla versus the Chinese in, in cars.”
Baker: Debate between humanoid and non-humanoid robots is over
“Is it going to be humanoids or not humanoids? I think that debate is over because humanoids can kind of learn, you know, from watching YouTube videos, and then it's easier for a human being you know, to put on a suit and show the robot how to do it.”
Baker: Larry Page willing to risk Google bankruptcy to win AI race
“He said, Larry Page has said internally at Google many times, I'm willing to go bankrupt rather than lose this race. Everybody is focused on ROI, but the people making the decisions are not basically saying that scale, it's all about scale.”
Ted Seides: Gavin Baker is the most knowledgeable AI public market investor
“Gavin, at least in the public markets, is the most knowledgeable person I've ever met on a sector, let alone it just happens to be that sector is AI.”
Baker: OpenAI's ChatGPT-5 router was broken for its first 16 hours
“I mean, in all fairness to OpenAI, the router that kind of auto selects the right model was apparently broken for the first kind of. 12 or 16 hours of the model's release. It wasn't working.”
Baker: Imperial presidency is preferable to an imperial judiciary
“And the executive branch, which is at least elected and accountable, I would rather have an imperial president who we can judge and vote out of office than an imperial judiciary.”
Baker: Zohran Mamdani will almost certainly win NYC mayoral election
“Unless Adams or Cuomo pulls out, he's almost certainly going to win.”