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This VC wants climate tech to play hardball in Washington
- ▶ 2:07 Lara Pierpoint Like, for example, all of the members of Congress who signed a letter supporting the Inflation Reduction Act, but then voted to gut it anyway.
- ▶ 6:50 Shomik Dutta And when those moments appear, I think we can probably reflect back on the Inflation Reduction Act being a moment like that. 5 times in the scene
- ▶ 8:38 Lara Pierpoint Obviously, a big player in all of this, too, and I think particularly when we talk about the IRA and the Big Beautiful Bill, we talk a lot about tax credits, but there's obviously a lot of work that DOE does, both, you know, in kind of…
The sunk cost dilemma
- ▶ 3:47 Lara Pierpoint Founded in 2008 before venture capital was flooding into clean energy, before the Inflation Reduction Act, and before climate tech was cool, the company was born from a contrarian thesis about the future of energy.
John Hickenlooper’s optimism in the face of opposition
- ▶ 0:09 Lara Pierpoint Three years ago, I was shocked when the Inflation Reduction Act got signed into law. 4 times in the scene
- ▶ 2:40 Lara Pierpoint So I want to start by talking with you about the Inflation Reduction Act, which passed in 2022. 7 times in the scene
- ▶ 9:45 Lara Pierpoint Everything slowed down to a halt with this administration in terms of actually deploying against the IRA, actually providing the tax guidance for some of the incentives that were in the bill. 4 times in the scene
- ▶ 16:20 Lara Pierpoint But what are, what are some of the things in the reconciliation bill that most concern you, particularly with respect to climate and with what you fought so hard to gain with the IRA? 2 times in the scene
- ▶ 24:35 Lara Pierpoint And, um, and I know that this was something that there were a lot of folks who were really hoping that the IRA would 2 times in the scene
Open Circuit: Jigar, Katherine, and Stephen are back
- ▶ 7:22 Stephen Lacey I think what's striking to me about this moment is that there's this huge disconnect between how vast this clean energy economy is and people's perceptions of it, and you saw this extraordinary investment over the last four years, or the…
- ▶ 20:44 Katherine Hamilton And then the other, and that's mostly for Inflation Reduction Act and infrastructure bill funding. 2 times in the scene
- ▶ 27:58 Jigar Shah And what was really telling is when you saw the House Ways and Means hearing, like, there was a two and a half weeks ago, where Republican after Republican after Republican came up and said, you know, I hate the IRA, but 4 times in the scene
Pioneering one of the first IRA tax credit transfers
- ▶ 6:17 Lara Pierpoint At the top, Chris mentioned monetizing IRA tax credits, but when Goldman brought Chris on to build the Goleta energy storage facility, the IRA hadn't even passed. 3 times in the scene
- ▶ 16:39 Lara Pierpoint The team had to put together one of the first ever tax credit transfers using IRA tax credits.
The ‘third inning’ of the energy transition [partner content]
- ▶ 4:03 Stephen Lacey Trump promised on the campaign trail to dismantle the Inflation Reduction Act, but Tanya believes Congress, even one controlled by Republicans, would take a different approach. 6 times in the scene
- ▶ 14:38 Tom Burton & Silas (Sales) Braga We would not have predicted prior to the adoption of IRA that I think even IRA would be adopted. 2 times in the scene
Our final episode: The top stories of 2024 so far
- ▶ 5:33 Jigar Shah The IRA and Bill have now passed, right? 2 times in the scene
Why ditching aluminum is key to securing the US solar supply chain
- ▶ 8:48 Greg Patterson And you get a great combo, given the domestic content that the IRA provides in terms of the tax credit.
AI-fueled geothermal and ‘the edge of the possible’
- ▶ 32:36 Andrew Beebe We sort of show up late, but boy, when we show up, you know, we can have an impact, and that, and that's true in geopolitical conflicts, but it's also true in domestic policy, and so I was really pleasantly surprised with the impact that…
Tesla’s extremely hardcore pivot
- ▶ 30:34 Stephen Lacey By switching from aluminum to recycled steel, solar producers can actually reduce greenhouse gas emissions, qualify for IRA domestic content incentives, and help blunt supply disruptions.
Political Climate: Is the IRA under political threat?
- ▶ 2:07 Julia Piper For nearly two years since the passage of the Inflation Reduction Act, the big question has been, can the government and the private sector actually get this sprawling set of climate programs up and running? 3 times in the scene
- ▶ 4:59 Julia Piper Much of that activity is due to tax incentives created by the Inflation Reduction Act. 7 times in the scene
- ▶ 10:46 Julia Piper But in the meantime, you are seeing funds flow from the IRA into a lot of conservative states. 4 times in the scene
- ▶ 16:05 Julia Piper So the Biden administration claims the IRA will cost around 4 times in the scene
- ▶ 29:39 Julia Piper You know, we've talked about these permitting headaches and, and, and the slow rollout of, and, and follow through on some of the IRA related policies.
The rise of heat batteries
- ▶ 14:21 John O'Donnell The Inflation Reduction Act maintaining and extending the production tax credit means there's tons more of that coming across the United States.
The urgent need to simplify clean energy finance [partner content]
- ▶ 2:06 Stephen Lacey And this problem has only grown over time, as more distributed assets need financing, and policies like the Inflation Reduction Act support smaller clean energy projects at the community level.
- ▶ 3:24 Stephen Lacey Stephen Lacey talks with Banyan COO Amanda Lee about solving financial bottlenecks, how the IRA is bringing in new players to the market, and what it will take to unlock trillions of dollars per year for the energy transition.
Pricing and tech trends shaping the global battery storage market
- ▶ 12:42 Stephen Lacey Yeah, and, and what about companies that are setting up shop in the U.S. after, in the wake of the Inflation Reduction Act? 2 times in the scene
US power demand is set to boom. How will we meet it?
- ▶ 10:57 Katherine Hamilton So, Georgia Power has been one of the largest beneficiaries of the Inflation Reduction Act.
- ▶ 17:49 Katherine Hamilton These plants online, all of these, whether it's storage, any kind of renewables, um, also transmission, and one thing that fell out of the mix in the Inflation Reduction Act was an investment tax credit for transmission, which would reduce…
- ▶ 19:16 Stephen Lacey We finance a lot of clean energy through the tax code in the US, that's how we've always done it, and there's a shift happening in the market right now, thanks to these new rules under the Inflation Reduction Act that allow tax credits to… 3 times in the scene
- ▶ 36:09 Katherine Hamilton Um, and so that's, and other little fixes in the, in the code that the Inflation Reduction Act, um, put into place that, you know, there were just some things that technically weren't quite right.
Venture investors riff on headwinds, hype, and wildcards of 2023
- ▶ 6:28 Gabriel Kra Also, different, some of our players, some of our bigger companies who, um, in which those companies were investing into and benefiting from the big decarbonization macro tailwinds, the companies with IRA or other government support, they…
- ▶ 16:04 Gabriel Kra But when we look back in 2026 and 20 27, and even in 2025, we're going to realize, oh, that's when products started rolling off the lines, and those manufacturing lines were funded by the venture dollars and the debt dollars of 2023, two…
The storylines of the energy transition in 2023
- ▶ 3:59 Katherine Hamilton They have been working for a little over a year on trying to implement the Inflation Reduction Act, and they also had to implement the CHIPS Act and the infrastructure bill, so they had a lot on their plate, and they've really been… 4 times in the scene
- ▶ 49:48 Katherine Hamilton However, however, there's some, there's some things I'm going to be working on, because no matter what happens, no matter what the outcome is, there's some things that can get done, and I would just say, you know, we talked earlier about… 3 times in the scene
LNG exports: America’s hidden ‘climate bomb’
- ▶ 15:58 Bill McKibben Uh, stopping new export facilities would be an actual inflation reduction act, uh, around energy.
- ▶ 22:54 Stephen Lacey The, uh, Inflation Reduction Act, um, so when the environmental movement, now the, the climate movement specifically, now that's, it's, it's quite powerful, um, when it puts its muscle behind something, we do start to see real change in a,…
- ▶ 39:29 Jeremy Symons We are more than wiping out all the emission reductions that have happened over the last two decades, and we're in danger of wiping out all the emissions reductions expected from the clean energy build-out domestically, including the good…
Making sense of advanced nuclear’s stumbles
- ▶ 38:10 Eric Wesoff So we've never been in a, the nuclear industry has never had more financial or spiritual support from the U.S. government or our, our populace, um, whether it be the, um, the, the IRA's investment tax credit and production tax credits that…
How to triple renewables by 2030
- ▶ 19:19 Shalini Ramanathan As we're trying to, to, to install this massive, um, solar capacity, it makes us very vulnerable to price challenges, you know, and, and especially given, this is something that we've already seen, is China is a leading supplier of solar,…
- ▶ 24:07 Shalini Ramanathan One of the challenges is that the Inflation Reduction Act is supply-side policy. 2 times in the scene
Inflation plagues clean energy. How bad is it?
- ▶ 4:02 Stephen Lacey Biden's big climate bill eventually turned into the Inflation Reduction Act, and it was branded and designed to combat energy inflation. 2 times in the scene
- ▶ 19:48 Michael Boyle For states and utilities that want to procure more clean energy, um, and the Inflation Reduction Act is kind of acting in an opposite way to, uh, to that, so there's lots of confounding factors that can, can feel a little frustrating, um,…
- ▶ 23:13 Michael Boyle Uh, state governors and legislatures can take a proactive role in taking advantage of new incentives under the Inflation Reduction Act for domestic manufacturing and take a leadership position and get those jobs, uh, to juice up the U.S.… 2 times in the scene
- ▶ 24:30 Stephen Lacey Where emissions need to go, and where they're projected to go under the Inflation Reduction Act, how much of a problem is this, uh, inflation issue? 2 times in the scene
Tackling the tough stuff: steel, cement, and chemicals
- ▶ 3:16 Stephen Lacey In the power sector or in transportation is an extremely heavy lift, but it's become increasingly clear how we get there, and most of the emission reductions here in America that we'll see, thanks to the Inflation Reduction Act, are going…
Can California pull off its clean energy ambitions?
- ▶ 53:37 Josh Becker He's very big on virtual power plants, and that's something that can be incented through the IRA.
- ▶ 1:01:24 Josh Becker We didn't talk about the IRA and implications and,
Why electric cars are driving the auto strikes
- ▶ 24:02 Katherine Hamilton So right now, for example, the Inflation Reduction Act has, um, Section 48 C, which incentivizes manufacturing. 2 times in the scene
- ▶ 36:18 Katherine Hamilton South Carolina is part of the battery belt that Maria's written about, which is, these are companies that are building factories in his state as a result of the Inflation Reduction Act and the infrastructure bill.
New frontiers of clean energy emerge
- ▶ 2:30 Stephen Lacey They're going to dive into all things energy transition, Inflation Reduction Act, tech innovation, and policy.
As debate over carbon removal swirls, America steps up funding
- ▶ 15:18 Stephen Lacey The Inflation Reduction Act expanded tax credits for the technology, and this month the Biden administration unveiled 1.2 billion dollars in funding for hubs to support direct air capture projects, plus thirteen million dollars for 23…
America’s historic climate law, one year on
- ▶ 1:43 Stephen Lacey So is anyone here, like, marking the Inflation Reduction Act's birthday with a special celebration? 7 times in the scene
- ▶ 11:18 Julian Spector Those ones had obviously been kind of developed and decided on before the IRA, but what, uh, was very palpable is the factories that had already been built, you know, just 3 times in the scene
- ▶ 23:33 Stephen Lacey Can you talk about that history, and then how that might change under the IRA with longer term, more consistent tax credits? 3 times in the scene
- ▶ 33:21 Maria Gallucci I would just add that that, um, that dynamic is also playing out at sort of the consumer level, the household level as well, that a lot of programs under the Inflation Reduction Act allow homeowners, um, or households, really, to access… 2 times in the scene
- ▶ 37:58 Stephen Lacey How is the carbon management industry potentially benefiting from that, and is there anything in heavy industry that is starting to evolve as a result of the IRA?
- ▶ 44:03 Stephen Lacey All right, we covered an extraordinary amount of ground, but that's what the IRA does. 5 times in the scene
The high stakes debate over green hydrogen
- ▶ 2:15 Adi Basham Well, in August last year, the U.S. came up with the Inflation Reduction Act, a massive subsidy package across the clean energy transition, but particularly with a very lucrative tax credit for the production of clean hydrogen, promising…
- ▶ 5:47 Stephen Lacey So it's been a year since the Inflation Reduction Act was passed and the IRA
- ▶ 18:26 Adi Basham In terms of the cost of production, with the US Inflation Reduction Act and subsidies in Europe and East Asia, uh, those will probably level out the cost of production, even at more expensive electrolyzer costs today.
What’s the next big trend in clean energy?
- ▶ 43:04 Ramez Naam So to last year, before the IRA, the world spent about 1.1 trillion dollars on climate tech.
A groundbreaking battery nears industrial scale
- ▶ 27:55 Mateo Jaramillo Government is doing today, you know, the Department of Energy Inflation Reduction Act, uh, today is doing on, on, uh, the, the electric system is, is incredibly important, and it's certainly beneficial for form, but it, I would say, even… 2 times in the scene
- ▶ 28:55 Mateo Jaramillo The Inflation Reduction Act, you know, is probably best understood as a industrial policy, frankly, and that is, is, you know, distilled down to a statement, we're going to make stuff in the United States again, especially for this energy… 2 times in the scene
The fall of a battery maker still haunts America
- ▶ 19:32 Stephen Lacey Now, we have seen a bunch of new activity as a result of the CHIPS Act and the, in the IRA. 2 times in the scene
Why Texas Republicans are trying to crush wind and solar
- ▶ 22:41 Stephen Lacey Uh, you know, the bulk of IRA spending is going to happen in Republican states. 3 times in the scene
EVs are a catalyst for broader electrification [partner content]
- ▶ 6:50 Annette Clayton You know, electrical fleets are moving first, and, and even the Inflation Reduction Act is going to accelerate that even more.
- ▶ 10:27 Annette Clayton So this, this cost point is really important point, and then we have these, these tailwinds in this supportive regulatory environment from the IRA and the, and the IIJA, um, but fundamentally the cost of utility power in the U.S. continues…
Degrees: The fastest electric vehicle fleet makeover in the West
- ▶ 0:36 Lara Pierpoint Even with the free money on the table from the Inflation Reduction Act, communities need to mobilize, apply for grant money, and do the hard work to make this change actually happen.
How will we power all those green factories?
- ▶ 2:29 Stephen Lacey And part of that plan, unveiled in April, includes gutting incentives for clean energy manufacturing, electric vehicles, and renewables projects through the Inflation Reduction Act. 4 times in the scene
- ▶ 3:35 Stephen Lacey She goes out and finds large projects worth investing in, and she's paying close attention to the surge of new manufacturing plans since the IRA was passed last year. 3 times in the scene
- ▶ 6:36 Shalini Ramanathan So that's one big challenge that the IRA tackles. 5 times in the scene
- ▶ 18:02 Shalini Ramanathan Hard to abate sectors, and I think that green hydrogen, we're going to need a molecule, you know, it's, it's probably not going to be an electron, it'll be a molecule, and, uh, right now it looks like green hydrogen, you know, thanks in…
- ▶ 19:24 Shalini Ramanathan It has, on the whole, on a global basis, low-cost green power, and it has the incentives in the Inflation Reduction Act.
Live: Is advanced nuclear ready for liftoff?
- ▶ 33:04 Stephen Lacey So let's shift now to how the grid is going to work, and we touched on this a little bit at the start, but a DOE analysis of the Inflation Reduction Act finds that under a best-case scenario, it could cut emissions 50% in the power sector. 4 times in the scene
- ▶ 52:03 Stephen Lacey I got to ask about your work at NREL, you know, you worked on the IRA, you 2 times in the scene
America’s green industrial strategy 2.0
- ▶ 4:51 Stephen Lacey In the Inflation Reduction Act, and they're going to leverage hundreds of billions of dollars to support domestic producers.
- ▶ 13:41 Stephen Lacey And the IRA is the engine driving investment growth through demand pull measures. 3 times in the scene
- ▶ 21:25 Katherine Hamilton So there's a reason that's called the Inflation Reduction Act, and that was a brilliant maneuver, um, to say, like, this really is going to address our economic crisis, and try to get us back on our feet, and get us building big things,… 2 times in the scene
- ▶ 26:19 unnamed speaker But now, thanks to the Inflation Reduction Act, with the tax credits for renewable energy, Cummins is going to manufacture these electrolyzers here in America for the first time.
- ▶ 43:16 Katherine Hamilton Unfortunately, the one, one of the things that got stripped for the, from the Inflation Reduction Act
Creating the ‘energy capitals’ of a decarbonized grid [partner content]
- ▶ 5:43 Will Hazlip And then things like the, the IRA are important, uh, important, uh, to provide the investment tax credit for storage to make those even more economic.
Are oil & gas majors abandoning clean energy?
- ▶ 33:35 Stephen Lacey Catherine, this sourcing of domestic materials is a huge deal for tax credits under the Inflation Reduction Act. 3 times in the scene
- ▶ 45:10 Jigar Shah A lot of work in the IRA and other places from hydrogen to DAC hubs to, uh, to, you know, work on long duration energy storage, nuclear, uh, critical materials, et cetera.
Stunning new data on coal vs renewables
- ▶ 3:50 unnamed speaker Tonight, Democrats celebrating a hard-fought victory, passing the Inflation Reduction Act, which makes massive investments in cutting greenhouse gas emissions. 2 times in the scene
- ▶ 14:08 Stephen Lacey Collectively, these coal plants hold about a hundred and seventy six billion dollars in debt, and there are a lot of efforts to figure out how to, what to do with this debt, and the federal government has created some programs in the… 2 times in the scene
- ▶ 21:37 Michael Boyle You know, I, I don't, I don't know where things are gonna go, but I think the fact that the Inflation Reduction Act incentives are durable for the next 10 years mean that the trend we've observed is, is not going anywhere fast.
The make-or-break moment for America’s energy transition
- ▶ 2:42 Stephen Lacey And you'd think they view the passage of the Inflation Reduction Act as a crowning achievement, but instead, they see it as a starting point. 4 times in the scene
- ▶ 11:54 Stephen Lacey The IRA, according to the Rhodium Group, has the potential to cut greenhouse gas emissions by around 40% by 2030.
- ▶ 18:18 Jigar Shah So then the IRA passed, so now we have more money, which is good.
- ▶ 22:10 Katherine Hamilton Some of the things that did not make it into the IRA were an investment tax credit for transmission, which was pulled at the last minute, and that was huge because we desperately need more transmission, and that would have bought down 30%… 2 times in the scene
- ▶ 31:06 Katherine Hamilton There's another big piece of the Inflation Reduction Act that we haven't touched on yet, but that I think will help in filling some of these gaps, and that is the Greenhouse Gas Reduction Fund that I've been working on for years.
- ▶ 35:55 Jigar Shah You're not gonna get another IRA passed next year, right?
The great electrician shortage
- ▶ 4:35 Emily Pontecorvo I mean, and now we have a chance to actually cut those emissions because of technological advancements and new incentive through the Inflation Reduction Act that was just passed.
- ▶ 19:56 Emily Pontecorvo Like, for example, the Inflation Reduction Act, it has funding for state energy offices to do workforce development, and some of that could be used to pay, let's say, half or three-quarters of the wages of a trainee so that contractors…
New York’s clean energy puzzle
- ▶ 43:58 Maria Gallucci And I don't know the extent to which this will kind of trickle down to individuals, but the Inflation Reduction Act, um, I think it was NYSERDA said it should pump, like, seventy billion dollars into New York State from now through 20 50…
From empty concrete to offshore wind hub?
- ▶ 19:24 Maria Gallucci As more offshore wind projects are built, as the Inflation Reduction Act kind of works to invest in renewable energy and environmental justice communities, there's a real desire that this Sunset Park project can serve as an example for the…
America is finally doing something big on climate
- ▶ 4:18 Stephen Lacey So what is the Inflation Reduction Act? 3 times in the scene