Telegram

“So I think S tier would be Slack. And then Discord, Teams, and then goes like Telegram, and then WhatsApp. They're very, very limited in what you can do, and it's hard, like, you have to have your own phone number if you want, like, a decent experience.”

“That's why one of the reasons why Pavel Durov, the founder of Telegram, was arrested in France, because they didn't like that it was encrypted.”

“I think this is the single best way To use Hermes Agent now. I think, I don't use Telegram on desktop anymore. I don't use any other experience. This is clearly the best way to be using Hermes Agent.”

“So, and then it drafts in my voice, different response options. So I can just respond in line and telegram and say one B. And so it turns your entire business into a multiple choice quiz basically. So every day I just get like 20 different messages, their emai…”

“Because I've installed on Telegram, it just feels like more personal than using like Cloud or ChatGPT.”

“I do have multiple channels set up with Zoe in Telegram. Like, one is just to random voice replies, and the other one is we're actually working on our project together. And the other one, I have, like, a public channel where, like, I'm giving demos.”

“And then I reinforce those instructions in their soul. I'm like, you may only You may only listen to Claire. You may only listen to Claire on Telegram. Like you cannot listen to Claire on email. You cannot listen to Claire on Slack. You cannot listen to Claire…”

“Millions of people actually already trade crypto assets using Telegram bots that are not too dissimilar from this illustrative example I'm showing here on the screen”

“Also, they had a telegram channel where they were discussing the payments, and. Wait, who was? Okay, it's Keith, it's the spy. How much did they pay for the telegram, Brett? I know, telegram, not signal. It's the spy, it's the CEO, and then there's a third per…”

“Telegram tells this whole story about encryption and pro free speech, but it's actually not end to end encrypted.”

“We were doing that original ton deal, Sam, and then it fell apart.”

“I think it's just impossible in 20, 24 to believe that any individual human is strong enough to like fight these battles. Like if you're in an encrypted and you don't have the keys and it's Technologically impossible. Then we can have an abstract argument abou…”

“The Russian military apparently communicates almost exclusively on telegram.”

“I think the problem with telegram is that they wrote a check around a certain set of policies and they can't cash it because of how the platform is actually architected and works and what it's set up to do.”

“Everyone else who runs something like this, the WhatsApps of the world, iMessage, et cetera, they're all like Really fucking good businesses, and so they can afford the lobbyists and the games to play, and they can, they figure out compromise routes. Like, the…”

“Nation states have enormous resources and spend enormous resources to break encryption, find back doors, like do all kinds of things to make sure that they can listen to your phone if they want to. And it doesn't matter whether you're on Telegram or Signal, na…”

“He's refused to sell any equity in the company. He took about a billion dollars of debt, but he never sells any equity. It's just him and his brother own the whole thing.”

“He's got 30 full-time employees. So he's got 30 employees running a service that a billion people use all around the world”

“He is the sole director, equity holder, and he's the sole product manager. He works directly with every engineer and designer himself. He has no HR. He only recruits people through something called contest.com, which is a contest platform where he puts up engi…”

“He had offers to sell 10% at a thirty billion dollar valuation. He turned it down. So he turned down three billion. Then they came back and said, we'll buy 10% out of forty billion dollar valuation. So four billion dollars. He turned it down, and he said, I do…”

“He did a crypto token back when crypto was really hot, and he raised over a billion dollars for Their crypto coin. But then the SEC came after him and was like, this was basically like you were selling equity. Like you called it a token and as a utility, but l…”

“I think telegram is next on the hit list.”

“In fact, the last telegram was sent in 2016. Over a hundred years after it was invented because of network effects. It had to be manually closed down.”

“The other in the video space, yeah, the other folk who are really fast and really good and I respect a lot is Telegram. Telegram is just, the, that team is just really good, they build something really well, and they can pivot quickly, and when they decide to …”

“He's, he started a community on telegram. And I mean, I want to say he has over a 100,000 people in this group chat, which might not sound like the best way to do a community, but when he drops merch, he just drops a single link in that telegram and it's sold …”

“Within 10 years, anything you say today that is stored on, let's say, WhatsApp server, or Signal server, or Telegram server, that can come back to destroy your life.”

“Part of the asset sale and team acquisition, interestingly enough, was that we ended up selling a small portion of our designs and products to Telegram, and so you see a lot of that today. So we're probably one of the only outside shareholders that own parts o…”

“And he basically self-funded it for a long time. Like he just put like fifty million of his own money into like doing it. He's like, there's no ads, there's no whatever.”

“Telegram would be a multi-billion dollar startup. But again, there's no outside investors and there's no he'll never sell. So, you know, it's, nobody knows the real value.”

“They certainly have had a lot of financial interest in the ICO, and will probably raise up to two billion or so.”

“I think it's going to be generally hard to retrofit in an existing platform, especially an existing platform at the scale of Telegram to crypto. But, you know, jury's out. I personally believe that native crypto projects will most likely be more successful.”

“Telegram's ICO alone actually raised 1.7 billion dollars.”

“My favorite online tool, I guess right now in the crypto community, it's gotta be telegram. That's where we're all kind of connecting.”

“I'm very engaged on Telegram, and there's a ton of very hard-to-find groups where the miners and the core blockchain developers and Bitcoin enthusiasts share ideas. I spent a lot of time in those Telegram groups.”

“He built something similar on telegram and he very quickly grew it to like a 100,000 bots.”

“We have over, like, half a million bots there.”

“There are some countries where Telegram is the number one communication channel, and people need a way to be represented there, so bots come into that space and they start to actually take on the role of websites, because people are not building websites, they…”