Telegram

“The Russian military apparently communicates almost exclusively on telegram.”

“Telegram tells this whole story about encryption and pro free speech, but it's actually not end to end encrypted.”

“We were doing that original ton deal, Sam, and then it fell apart.”

“Everyone else who runs something like this, the WhatsApps of the world, iMessage, et cetera, they're all like Really fucking good businesses, and so they can afford the lobbyists and the games to play, and they can, they figure out compromise routes. Like, the…”

“Nation states have enormous resources and spend enormous resources to break encryption, find back doors, like do all kinds of things to make sure that they can listen to your phone if they want to. And it doesn't matter whether you're on Telegram or Signal, na…”

“I think the problem with telegram is that they wrote a check around a certain set of policies and they can't cash it because of how the platform is actually architected and works and what it's set up to do.”

“I think it's just impossible in 20, 24 to believe that any individual human is strong enough to like fight these battles. Like if you're in an encrypted and you don't have the keys and it's Technologically impossible. Then we can have an abstract argument abou…”

“Also, they had a telegram channel where they were discussing the payments, and. Wait, who was? Okay, it's Keith, it's the spy. How much did they pay for the telegram, Brett? I know, telegram, not signal. It's the spy, it's the CEO, and then there's a third per…”