Episodes
Three years of tape. Every episode is checked claim by claim and playable.
31 episodes in 2026
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55m AI Agents Are Going Rogue. Should We Be Worried? │Claude vs. Grok, Tesla vs Waymo, Google vs Canva · More or Less Podcast
In this episode of the 'More or Less' podcast, co-hosts Jessica Lessin, Sam Lessin, Dave Morin, Brit Morin, and guest Sudarshan 'Suds' debate AI model censorship, multi-agent developer workf…
34 statements 10 featured 7 assessments 3 contradicted
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54m Meta’s $17B Reckoning & Why Parents Can’t Compete With Big Tech's Algorithm · More or Less Podcast
In this episode of More or Less, the hosts analyze Meta's $17 billion child safety settlement and the parental battle against addictive algorithms, before exploring autonomous AI workflows a…
25 statements 7 featured 3 assessments
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56m OpenAI Can’t Hold a Lead, Stripe Buys OpenRouter & AI Hits a Wall · More or Less Podcast
Co-hosts Jessica Lessin, Sam Lessin, Britt Morin, and Dave Morin analyze Stripe's OpenRouter acquisition, escalating enterprise rivalries between OpenAI and Anthropic, and the impending econ…
36 statements 10 featured 7 assessments 1 contradicted
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58m Special Edition MOL with Josh Wolfe, Rachel Holt, Scott Belsky, Scott Stanford, and Peter Deng. · More or Less Podcast
In this special panel edition of the More or Less podcast, venture capitalist Sam Lessin hosts leading tech investors and operators to dissect the rise of autonomous AI agents, the financial…
26 statements 9 featured 7 assessments 2 contradicted
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55m Jeff Dean Leaves Google, Airtable Sells, and the Bag-Securing Era · More or Less Podcast
In this episode of the More or Less podcast, co-hosts Jessica Lessin, Sam Lessin, Britt Morin, and Dave Morin dissect Google's AI leadership shakeup, Airtable's discounted sale, and the loom…
22 statements 8 featured 3 assessments
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59m The Lilian Weng Saga, Mental Health Essay Then OpenAI | Meta's AI Ad, China Cracks DUV
In this episode of the 'More or Less' podcast, co-hosts Jessica Lessin, Sam Lessin, and Dave Morin analyze major technology shifts, ranging from Meta's optimistic consumer AI campaign and Ch…
27 statements 6 featured 3 assessments
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1h 1m Stripe Is Trying To Buy PayPal For $150b | OpenAI Cyber Incident, Frontier Model Economics, Peptides · More or Less Podcast
In this episode of the More or Less podcast, co-hosts Jessica Lessin, Britt Morin, Dave Morin, and Sam Lessin analyze OpenAI's recent sandbox security incident, the economic sustainability o…
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50m Open Source AI Wins. Now Labs Are Running to Washington |Thinking Machines, Johnny Ive, Realtime API · More or Less Podcast
In this episode of the More or Less podcast, hosts Dave Morin, Brit Morin, Sam Lessin, and Jessica Lessin analyze the shifting economics of artificial intelligence, contrasting open-source m…
30 statements 9 featured 3 assessments
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55m AI Frontier Lab Is Essentially Doomed | Open AI Offered U.S. Equity, Xbox Is In Trouble, Post-AGI · More or Less Podcast
In this episode of the More or Less podcast, co-hosts Sam Lessin, Jessica Lessin, Dave Morin, and Britt Morin analyze OpenAI's government equity proposal, shifting gaming demographics, wealt…
28 statements 8 featured 5 assessments
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54m Every CTO Is Quietly Switching Off Anthropic and OpenAI | GLM 5.2, Vox Americanus, Claude Fable 5 · More or Less Podcast
In this episode of the 'More or Less' podcast, hosts Brit Morin, Jessica Lessin, Sam Lessin, and Dave Morin analyze major shifts in enterprise AI adoption, digital identity verification thro…
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49m Chinese AI Model GLM 5.2 Beating Frontier Models | Meta Glasses, Polymarket Scandal, AI Talent War · More or Less Podcast
In this episode of the 'More or Less' podcast, co-hosts Dave Morin, Britt Morin, Sam Lessin, and Jessica Lessin analyze key technology and venture capital developments, ranging from consumer…
20 statements 6 featured 4 assessments
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40m SpaceX Hit $2.5 Trillion. Now Watch What Elon Buys Next. · More or Less Podcast
In this episode of the More or Less podcast, hosts Jessica Lessin and Sam Lessin analyze SpaceX's unprecedented $2.5 trillion valuation, OpenAI's massive financial burn, Anthropic's governme…
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51m Teamshares IPO: $60M EBITDA, 92 Companies, Zero Exits · More or Less Podcast
In this special episode of the 'More or Less' podcast, host Sam Lessin interviews Teamshares co-founder and CEO Mike Brown to discuss the company's evolution from a small business acquisitio…
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44m Apple’s New Siri, SpaceX’s $300B IPO & the AI Company Killing Its Own Brand · More or Less Podcast
In this episode of the More or Less podcast, hosts Dave Morin, Britt Morin, Sam Lessin, and Jessica Lessin analyze key technology and media developments, including Apple's WWDC announcements…
13 statements 6 featured 4 assessments
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45m Silicon Valley IPO Summer 2026: SpaceX, Anthropic, OpenAI Explained
In this episode of the 'More or Less' podcast, hosts Britt, Sam Lessin, and Dave Morin dissect the massive Summer 2026 tech IPO boom, explore the rise of 'narrative capitalism' in venture fu…
25 statements 6 featured 5 assessments 1 contradicted
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50m Normal People Don't Want AI Agents (And Silicon Valley Can't Accept It) · More or Less Podcast
In this episode of the More or Less podcast, hosts Dave Morin, Britt Morin, and Jessica Lessin are joined by guest Amir Efrati of The Information to debate the realistic ROI of corporate AI,…
25 statements 9 featured 7 assessments 3 contradicted
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52m Google I/O Just Killed SEO? Agentic Search, Universal Cart, and the New Web · More or Less Podcast
In this episode of the 'More or Less' podcast, the hosts analyze major tech developments, including Google I/O's agentic search features, the economics of AI infrastructure, and public AI se…
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45m Google's AI-First Laptop, Meta's Spy Games, AI Monks in Middle America · More or Less Podcast
In this episode of the More or Less Podcast, hosts Jessica Lessin, Brit Morin, Dave Morin, and Sam Lessin discuss emerging AI hardware, voice-dictation workflows, biohacking trends, enterpri…
33 statements 10 featured 11 assessments 1 contradicted
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59m Why the Met Gala Hates Tech, Elon vs OpenAI Drama, and the Rise of Chinese AI Models · More or Less Podcast
In this episode of the 'More or Less' podcast, hosts Dave Morin, Jessica Lessin, and Britt Morin analyze the macroeconomics of AI infrastructure, the public backlash surrounding tech wealth …
20 statements 5 featured 11 assessments
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1h 1m Elon Musk vs OpenAI Trial, Google Cloud Surge, Meta’s Blocked Acquisition, Anthropic Winning · More or Less Podcast
In this episode of the More or Less podcast, hosts Brit Morin, Dave Morin, Sam Lessin, and Jessica Lessin break down major technology developments, including the trial between Elon Musk and …
28 statements 11 featured 3 assessments
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52m What Tim Cook’s “Executive Chairman” Move Really Means | Musk vs OpenAI, xAI and Cursor Rumors
In this 'full quad' episode of the More or Less podcast, the panel analyzes Apple's significant leadership transition and explores the deep-seated branding, legal, and data-privacy crises cu…
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44m Allbirds Pivoted to AI Data Centers | SpaceX $1.5T IPO, Anthropic $800B, $175M Seed Rounds
In this episode of the 'More or Less' podcast, hosts Jess, Britt, and Sam explore the high-stakes world of AI infrastructure pivots, SpaceX's shifting financial landscape, and the inflationa…
38 statements 11 featured 7 assessments 1 contradicted
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47m Vercel CEO: 70% of Our Traffic Is Now AI Agents "Nobody Was Prepared" | Anthropic, OpenClaw, OpenAI
Vercel CEO Guillermo Rauch discusses the rapid transition to an 'agentic internet' where 70% of traffic is driven by AI agents, necessitating a total overhaul of cloud infrastructure, securi…
29 statements 8 featured 5 assessments 1 contradicted
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47m OpenAI's $852 Billion Valuation Makes Zero Sense (ClawCon Tokyo, Anthropic's Leak, Goodbye Internet)
The 'More or Less' hosts explore the technological breakthroughs of ClawCon Tokyo while critically analyzing the massive market valuations of AI giants and the security risks posed by autono…
25 statements 7 featured 2 assessments
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58m Nvidia’s GTC Was “Taylor Swift for Straight Men” (Apple, OpenAI, and OpenClaw News) · More or Less Podcast
In this episode of the More or Less podcast, hosts Dave Morin, Britt Morin, Sam Lessin, and Jessica Lessin analyze major tech developments, including NVIDIA's GTC conference, OpenClaw's rapi…
23 statements 7 featured 7 assessments 2 contradicted
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51m Fire Sam Altman, The End of Software Engineers, and Why AI Is All Narrative · More or Less Podcast
In this episode of the More or Less podcast, hosts Dave Morin, Brit Morin, Sam Lessin, and Jessica Lessin analyze PR battles between Anthropic and OpenAI, Apple's edge compute strategy, and …
20 statements 6 featured 1 assessments 1 contradicted
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47m Apple, OpenAI & Why Nobody Makes Money in AI | The SaaS Apocalypse · More or Less Podcast
In this episode of the More or Less podcast, hosts Brit Morin, Dave Morin, Sam Lessin, and Jess Lessin debate how AI is commoditizing software and impacting tech profit margins. They also an…
21 statements 7 featured 3 assessments 1 contradicted
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56m OpenClaw vs Meta vs OpenAI: The Personal Agent Wars Heat Up · More or Less Podcast
In this episode of the More or Less podcast, hosts Dave Morin, Britt Morin, Jessica Lessin, and Sam Lessin analyze major tech developments, focusing on the OpenClaw Foundation, personal AI a…
28 statements 6 featured 5 assessments 1 contradicted
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1h 0m Why OpenAI Can't Win The Decentralized AI Future (OpenClaw, Apple's Win, X.AI Exodus) · More or Less Podcast
In this episode of the More or Less podcast, hosts Sam Lessin, Dave Morin, Jessica Lessin, and Brit Morin analyze major shifts in the AI landscape, contrasting centralized monoliths with dec…
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53m SaaS Companies Beware: AI Is The New UI (Anthropic's Claude Code and Cowork) · More or Less Podcast
In this episode of the More or Less podcast, hosts Jessica Lessin, Dave Morin, Brit Morin, and Sam Lessin examine how emerging AI coding tools and system-level agents are disrupting traditio…
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57m Founders Beware: Illiquid Valuations vs. Real‑World Taxes · More or Less Podcast
In this episode of More or Less, hosts Jessica Lessin, Brit Morin, Dave Morin, and Sam Lessin analyze 2026 tech trends, examining the impact of AI code generation on software moats, Californ…
28 statements 9 featured 11 assessments 1 contradicted