Python

“A use of a coding agent that works extremely well, is you can ask today's models to translate software from one computer language to another very effectively, because in that case, you actually have a incredibly detailed specification. You have the whole softw…”

“What we found works amazingly is literally to give the files to an agent, tell it to write Python to get these files into a standardized format, because they're not very good at parsing files, but they're incredibly good at code gen, and so you can tell it to …”

“You can generate really good CAD models by having it write Python to make the CAD model. Like, it's not good at, necessarily good at, like, three-D space visualization or outputting a drawing Right, as vectors, but it's really, really good at generating plausi…”

“And the interesting thing with, like, the agent stuff is people use their TypeScript SDK a lot more because they're not actually doing anything that needs ML.”

“We have a feature called dynamic workflows where you can have it like also break down the task into like a lot of subtasks. And I trusted it to sort of not just do the individual action, but here's like a whole language conversion of millions of hundreds of th…”

“And I trusted it to sort of not just do the individual action, but here's like a whole language conversion of millions of hundreds of thousands of lines of code at that point. Go off and do it, go plan it, go execute it, go verify the work, double verify the w…”

“The reason people don't do it is that it's not easy and it's not fun, right? It takes you like 10 or 20 times as long to like fight with the type checker, which is essentially like proving that you don't have a vulnerability as if, as it would if you just like…”

“If you want proof to be informal math, It's very annoying, because then that's, like, just makes objective function. Your code is something like Python, your proof is, say, natural language, math proof. You will not have very strong RL kind of performance, rig…”

“I think this year is the year that TypeScript overtook Python in the GitHub survey, and I didn't really foresee that coming.”

“You have this code this code to build a complete large language model that can train on a large data set and learn to speak, runs on GPUs yes, eventually is trained with RL and tool calls. That entire set of code, probably two to 300 lines of Python code.”

“TypeScript is an amazing language for AI because there's tons of training data. In the models and it's strongly typed. And actually at the company, we built most of the stack in TypeScript, and we have this amazing property, which is we have type safety all th…”

“Training neural nets and LLMs specifically is a huge amount of code, but all of that code is actually complexity from efficiency. It's just because you need it to go fast. If you don't need it to go fast and you just care about the algorithm, then that algorit…”

“I think particularly for small, medium-sized businesses and some large businesses, they're not gonna have that skill set. It's not gonna be natural for them to do that, and I think kids coming out of school today that have taken some Python, don't have to be c…”

“Because I kind of believe that Once it starts becoming a part of your workflow, you're probably not either, either you don't have the skill to understand whether or not this Python script is safe, or you're not going to read it anyway.”

“I mean, in a hot loop, we can run, we can go from code to execution result in under a microsecond in like 800 nanoseconds. In reality, it's like single digit microseconds to run code or single digit microseconds to run the next step of a REPL or single digit m…”

“My take is that there are four, four things where if you can cover all four of these things, LLMs are not like three X faster or five X faster. They're like a hundred X faster.”

“Models are extremely good at Rust and Python. They've done a lot of RL on them. They have not done as much RL on Verilog. They've done almost none on, okay, write, write me a markdown file that describes a chip architecture.”

“Cloud for Excel is much worse than cloud code using Python to use the Excel skills to then deposit into.”

“Codex works very well on Python mono repos.”

“So although our whole backend is in Python we will hire any backend developer even if they know nothing about Python.”

“The GPT-V Pro will run Python code to extract these dots from an image, and then it will count them in a loop.”

“A smarter person is going to say, no, they should not do math. Instead, I should write the two lines of Python, which I know how to, you know, direct and run the Python in order to solve the math problem. I think of trust in a very similar way. There are well-…”

“What we have done over the last weeks is we have shipped like zero config support on Vercel for all the popular Python framework like Flask and FastAPI.”

“And to be honest, a lot of the stuff that we built while building co-council was exactly like this. Every time you do this task, you're basically gonna take the same six or seven steps. And you don't need to have, frankly, like fucking Langchain or whatever. J…”

“And you know, more importantly right now, AI, we're in a world where, where AI is not good at calculating things yet. So generally you're having to spin up a virtual machine and run Python or something on there. To actually perform those spreadsheet calculatio…”

“Until 2023, Being really good at coding, whether that was JavaScript, Python, PHP, or anything else, meant you had essentially 10 X or more the earning potential and the ability to build quality solutions than everybody else in the world. And that has been the…”

“It is not as impactful right now on writing Rust code or C or go whatever as it is on JavaScript and Python and higher level languages.”

“Python is probably the most common generated code just because how much it's in the training data and data scientists love Python and I love Python too. It's such a comically bad thing for AI to generate just because it's one of the most inefficient programmin…”

“The sort of business intelligence applications is they really focus on technical users. So if you could write SQL or Python, you could do whatever you want in them to give them a really powerful interface, but the vast majority of people, they're not going to …”

“So if you're doing like work in Node or Python, Postgres, MySQL, it works in any REPL and it's a it's a pretty differentiated and cool feature of Warp.”

“I don't actually think he's gonna have to code when he grows up. I think that's gonna be a solved problem, but it's a very, very valuable skill because I think learning to program is learning how to think structure in a structured way, right?”

“When ChatGPT does something really interesting, I tell people it's oftentimes just writing Python code and interpreting it.”

“Mojo is not just a little faster than Python, it's faster than Rust. So it's like tens of thousands of times faster than Python, and it's in the Python family.”

“I think formulas will be used less in favor of Python.”

“So we created this thing called fast HTML, which brings all these ideas together. And lets you create arbitrarily rich, sophisticated web applications in a single Python file.”

“Like when people say program synthesis, like we're already there, like O three is program synthesis, but the programs are like JSON and Python.”

“So right now we just have the browsing tool, which is a text based browser, but it can see embedded images and like open PDFs. And then also it has access to a Python tool so it can do analysis and calculations and plot graphs and things like that.”

“I still remain very bullish web developers and JavaScript world, TypeScript world, even though we have, like, a ton of usage from Python but there's so many web developers, and it's easier and easier to use LLMs. I really think that you need to cater to these …”

“From number of downloads of our SDK per month, it's like, 250,000 JavaScript, close to around half a million Python.”

“He was talking about like, oh, we need a different language than Python or whatever that is like built for built for AI and built. It's like, No, Brett, I don't think we do actually. It's just fine. It deals with just fine, just expressive enough. And it's nic…”

“So the general tech stack is our entire back end is, or 90% of our back end is written in Python. Hosting everything on Google Cloud platform, and our front end is written with, well, we're using the Flutter framework.”

“We have the machine language layer, you know, which is Python or Ruby or Rust, right? Those are effectively abstractions of the chipset and the machine instruction set. And that's the last layer that's deterministic, right? Like programming language inherently…”

“I think there's going to be a next programming language after Python and TypeScript and Rust and Rust in itself, you know wasn't really a thing five years ago. And then, so there's going to be more languages that are probably closer to human language and to be…”

“The things that language models understand best tend to be the kind of piece of code that are represented on the internet. You know, maybe I don't think a lot of people would be happy with this, that maybe the kind of fundamental language of AI becomes Python …”

“You don't need to be nearly as technical as you used to like, AI can help you write the code. It can tell you other ways of doing things. Like it's even just like in that element of like who I would used to like have a bias for hiring. It's totally changed.”

“I think that we're bringing the cost of writing code down to zero. So the fact that we're still writing Python with AI cracks me up just cause it's like literally was designed to be ergonomic to write, not, not safe to run or fast to run.”

“Back in 2017, when I first started it, the like different thing it was doing was using type int to define your schema. That was controversial at the time. It was like genuinely disapproved of by some people. I think the success of Pydantic and libraries like f…”

“We have plans to move some of the, basically store the data in rust types after validation. Not convert to Python types. So then if you were doing like validation and then serialization, you would never have to go via a Python type. We reckon that can give us …”

“The problem with PyTorch is it's high levels. Don't have that much fine-grained control over, like specific memory stuff, so kind of have to leave, like, the memory freeing to Python and PyTorch, which is, can be annoying sometimes.”

“A lot of like the optimization, like what happens, especially on the fuzziness parts, like on the actual agents is on these agents and tasks. I got a YAML files. It's where I can, like, you're going to be like spending a lot of time, like to make sure that you…”

“And the method that we adopt in open hands instead is we provide these tools, but we provide them by just giving a coding agent the ability to call arbitrary Python code. And in the arbitrary Python code, it can call these tools. We expose these tools as APIs …”

“I do think, though, there should be more like, intellectual flexibility between the disciplines, especially with, like just how easy LLMs translating between different languages will be, so it's like, oh, yeah, there's some sort of, like, Little bit trickier, …”

“Modal makes it easy to build, scale and deploy applications in the data, AI, machine learning realm. So, so we basically, you can think of as like, we take, you write a little bit of Python code, and we take that code, we stick it in a container, we execute th…”

“At the time, and still, like, AI is sort of at least nominally dominated by Python, but product building is dominated by TypeScript.”

“Like the Python image, the most up-to-date Python image, if you're going to start writing Python code, and you grab that from like Docker Hub or something like that, it'll have 1400 vulnerabilities before you even start writing your code.”

“First of all a vast majority of our customers use TypeScript and, you know, early on, some of our customers were dealing with, like, should we use TypeScript or Python? And some teams were using TypeScript, some teams were using Python. Now, almost everyone, i…”

“Another thing is that TypeScript as a language is inherently better suited for AI workloads because of the type system. So the type system basically allows you to launder, you know, the crazy stuff that comes out of an AI model into a well-defined structure th…”

“The use of Python and PyTorch and everything else is just a crutch, because we humans are finite. We have finite knowledge, intelligence, and attention.”

“Python has certainly taken over everything that we do on the finance side, even at Texas teachers. I mean, kids show up and it's not necessarily just Excel anymore. It's Python programming.”

“And if we just use, like, Python and we didn't care about how good it looks, it would be much easier to create. Because Python is very straightforward and AI is very good at creating it.”