Python

also referred to as: python code

32 statements across 28 episodes · 16 bullish · 7 bearish · 27 people on the record · first statement Oct 27, 2023 by Artem Keydunov · said 324 times in 107 episodes since 2023 · across every show →

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Oct 27, 2023 neutral
Insight
Keydunov: Production AI data apps require extensive Python scaffolding around models
“When we're talking about production level use cases, it's quite a lot of Python code around, you know, like, your model to make it work, to be honest. It's, like, It's not that magic that you just throw the model in it, like it can give you all this answers. F…”
Artem Keydunov Oct 27, 2023 ▶ 33:54 Powering your Copilot for Data - with Artem Keydunov from Cube.dev
Feb 28, 2024 negative
Opinion
Firshman: Building Fig and Docker Compose in Python was a mistake
“We used Python, which was a big mistake, where Python's really hard to get booting up fast, because you have to load up the whole Python runtime before it can run anything.”
Ben Firshman Feb 28, 2024 ▶ 2:54 A Brief History of the Open Source AI Hacker - with Ben Firshman of Replicate
Apr 27, 2024 positive
Insight
Translating code proves LLMs possess causal, functional understanding
“If you ask the LLM to translate a bit of Python into a little bit of C, and it's performing this task, obviously it is understanding in the sense that it has a, The causal, functional model it implements.”
Joscha Bach Apr 27, 2024 ▶ 1:03:36 This World Does Not Exist — Joscha Bach, Karan Malhotra, Rob Haisfield (WorldSim, WebSim, Liquid AI)
Jun 21, 2024 positive
Disclosure
Brady: Elicit uses checked exceptions in Python to handle edge cases
“We use checked exceptions inside our Python code base, which means that we can use the type system to make sure we are handling, properly handling, all of the various things that could be going wrong, all the different exceptions that could be getting raised. …”
James Brady Jun 21, 2024 ▶ 14:10 How To Hire AI Engineers (ft. James Brady and Adam Wiggins of Elicit)
Jun 21, 2024 neutral
Disclosure
Brady: Elicit generates TypeScript types from Python OpenAPI specs instead of GraphQL
“We don't use GraphQL. So we've got the types defined in Python. That's the source of truth. And we go from the open API spec and there's a tool that you can use to generate types dynamically, like TypeScript types from those opening API definitions.”
James Brady Jun 21, 2024 ▶ 14:52 How To Hire AI Engineers (ft. James Brady and Adam Wiggins of Elicit)
Jun 25, 2024 negative
Insight
Albrecht: Unsynchronized garbage collection across distributed nodes steadily degrades cluster MFU
“Because you have hundreds of machines, they're doing garbage collection at slightly different times, and then they get slightly further apart, and slightly more and more jittered, until eventually they're all happening kind of at random times, and just, like, …”
Josh Albrecht Jun 25, 2024 ▶ 31:09 State of the Art: Training 70B LLMs on 10,000 H100 clusters
Aug 28, 2024 positive
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Carlini: LLMs decompile obscure binaries into readable Python code
“It can turn the compiled source code, which is impossible for any human to understand into the Python code that is entirely reasonable to understand. And, you know, it doesn't run. It has a bunch of problems, but like, it's so much nicer that it's immediately …”
Nicholas Carlini Aug 28, 2024 ▶ 29:52 Personal benchmarks vs HumanEval - with Nicholas Carlini of DeepMind
Sep 21, 2024 negative
Insight
Karpathy: Python and PyTorch are crutches for finite human intelligence
“The use of Python and PyTorch and everything else is just a crutch, because we humans are finite. We have finite knowledge, intelligence, and attention.”
Andrej Karpathy Sep 21, 2024 ▶ 22:17 llm.c's Origin and the Future of LLM Compilers - Andrej Karpathy at CUDA MODE
Oct 11, 2024
Insight
Goyal: Python Dominates AI but TypeScript Dominates Product Building
“At the time, and still, like, AI is sort of at least nominally dominated by Python, but product building is dominated by TypeScript.”
Ankur Goyal Oct 11, 2024 ▶ 1:02:51 Production AI Engineering starts with Evals
Dec 25, 2024 positive
Insight
Neubig: Arbitrary Python Execution Beats Individual Agent Tool Calls
“And the method that we adopt in open hands instead is we provide these tools, but we provide them by just giving a coding agent the ability to call arbitrary Python code. And in the arbitrary Python code, it can call these tools. We expose these tools as APIs …”
Graham Neubig Dec 25, 2024 ▶ 8:21 Best of 2024 in Agents (from #1 on SWE-Bench Full, Prof. Graham Neubig of OpenHands/AllHands)
Jan 4, 2025 negative
Insight
Comfyanonymous: PyTorch Lacks Fine-Grained Memory Control for Complex Pipelines
“The problem with PyTorch is it's high levels. Don't have that much fine-grained control over, like specific memory stuff, so kind of have to leave, like, the memory freeing to Python and PyTorch, which is, can be annoying sometimes.”
comfyanonymous (Comfy) Jan 4, 2025 ▶ 33:13 AI Engineering for Art - with comfyanonymous
Feb 6, 2025 positive
Opinion
Colvin: Pydantic and FastAPI normalized Python type-hint schemas
“Back in 2017, when I first started it, the like different thing it was doing was using type int to define your schema. That was controversial at the time. It was like genuinely disapproved of by some people. I think the success of Pydantic and libraries like f…”
Samuel Colvin Feb 6, 2025 ▶ 1:36 Agent Engineering with Pydantic + Graphs — with Samuel Colvin, CEO of Pydantic Logfire
Feb 6, 2025 bullish
Prediction Open · timeframe Feb 2028
Colvin: Rust-native data storage could yield 3x to 5x Pydantic speedup
“We have plans to move some of the, basically store the data in rust types after validation. Not convert to Python types. So then if you were doing like validation and then serialization, you would never have to go via a Python type. We reckon that can give us …”
Samuel Colvin Feb 6, 2025 ▶ 3:50 Agent Engineering with Pydantic + Graphs — with Samuel Colvin, CEO of Pydantic Logfire
Feb 11, 2025 negative
Opinion
Bret Taylor Mocks Using AI to Write Unsafe, Slow Python Code
“I think that we're bringing the cost of writing code down to zero. So the fact that we're still writing Python with AI cracks me up just cause it's like literally was designed to be ergonomic to write, not, not safe to run or fast to run.”
Bret Taylor Feb 11, 2025 ▶ 38:49 The AI Architect: Bret Taylor
Mar 7, 2025 neutral
Prediction Not checkable as stated
The Fundamental Language of AI Will Likely Remain Python
“The things that language models understand best tend to be the kind of piece of code that are represented on the internet. You know, maybe I don't think a lot of people would be happy with this, that maybe the kind of fundamental language of AI becomes Python …”
Misha Laskin Mar 7, 2025 ▶ 12:53 Solve coding, solve AGI [Reflection.ai launch w/ CEO Misha Laskin]
Mar 14, 2025 neutral
Disclosure
Snipd builds on Python, GCP, and Flutter for cross-platform clients
“So the general tech stack is our entire back end is, or 90% of our back end is written in Python. Hosting everything on Google Cloud platform, and our front end is written with, well, we're using the Flutter framework.”
Kevin Ben-Smith Mar 14, 2025 ▶ 28:39 Snipd: The AI Podcast App for Learning — with CEO Kevin Ben-Smith
Mar 28, 2025 positive
Opinion
Shah: The AI industry does not need a new language to replace Python
“He was talking about like, oh, we need a different language than Python or whatever that is like built for built for AI and built. It's like, No, Brett, I don't think we do actually. It's just fine. It deals with just fine, just expressive enough. And it's nic…”
Dharmesh Shah Mar 28, 2025 ▶ 50:27 The Agent Network — Dharmesh Shah, Agent.ai + CTO of HubSpot
Apr 24, 2025 bullish
Opinion
Mlejnsky remains bullish on JavaScript and web developers driving AI adoption
“I still remain very bullish web developers and JavaScript world, TypeScript world, even though we have, like, a ton of usage from Python but there's so many web developers, and it's easier and easier to use LLMs. I really think that you need to cater to these …”
Vasek Mlejnsky Apr 24, 2025 ▶ 19:16 Why Every Agent needs Open Source Cloud Sandboxes
Apr 24, 2025 neutral
Assertion Not publicly verifiable
Mlejnsky: E2B sees 250k JavaScript and ~500k Python SDK monthly downloads
“From number of downloads of our SDK per month, it's like, 250,000 JavaScript, close to around half a million Python.”
Vasek Mlejnsky Apr 24, 2025 ▶ 20:16 Why Every Agent needs Open Source Cloud Sandboxes
Jun 10, 2025 bearish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Kirkos: Traditional spreadsheet formulas will lose ground to Python
“I think formulas will be used less in favor of Python.”
David Kirkos Jun 10, 2025 ▶ 25:57 Quadratic: The AI Spreadsheet
Jun 13, 2025 bullish
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Lattner says Mojo is 10,000x faster than Python and beats Rust
“Mojo is not just a little faster than Python, it's faster than Rust. So it's like tens of thousands of times faster than Python, and it's in the Python family.”
Chris Lattner Jun 13, 2025 ▶ 15:29 The Shape of Compute (Chris Lattner of Modular)
Jun 25, 2025 positive
Assertion Supported
Lloyd: Warp translates natural language in any REPL session
“So if you're doing like work in Node or Python, Postgres, MySQL, it works in any REPL and it's a it's a pretty differentiated and cool feature of Warp.”
Zach Lloyd Jun 25, 2025 ▶ 21:22 ⚡️Warp 2.0: the Agentic Development Environment - Zach Lloyd and Ben Holmes
Nov 1, 2025 positive
Disclosure
Vercel shipped zero-config deployment for Flask and FastAPI
“What we have done over the last weeks is we have shipped like zero config support on Vercel for all the popular Python framework like Flask and FastAPI.”
Malte Ubl Nov 1, 2025 ▶ 32:31 ⚡️ Ship AI recap: Agents, Workflows, and Python — w/ Vercel CTO Malte Ubl
Feb 24, 2026 negative
Opinion
O'Laughlin: Claude for Excel is much worse than Claude Code with Python
“Cloud for Excel is much worse than cloud code using Python to use the Excel skills to then deposit into.”
Doug O'Laughlin Feb 24, 2026 ▶ 31:18 Claude Code for Finance + The Global Memory Shortage: Doug O'Laughlin, SemiAnalysis
Mar 14, 2026 bullish
Assertion Supported
Colvin: Monty executes Python in single-digit microseconds
“I mean, in a hot loop, we can run, we can go from code to execution result in under a microsecond in like 800 nanoseconds. In reality, it's like single digit microseconds to run code or single digit microseconds to run the next step of a REPL or single digit m…”
Samuel Colvin Mar 14, 2026 ▶ 5:13 ⚡️Monty: the ultrafast Python interpreter by Agents for Agents — Samuel Colvin, Pydantic
Mar 14, 2026 positive
Insight
Colvin: LLMs are 100x faster under four specific engineering conditions
“My take is that there are four, four things where if you can cover all four of these things, LLMs are not like three X faster or five X faster. They're like a hundred X faster.”
Samuel Colvin Mar 14, 2026 ▶ 11:41 ⚡️Monty: the ultrafast Python interpreter by Agents for Agents — Samuel Colvin, Pydantic
Mar 17, 2026 neutral
Insight
Rieseberg: Users will not scrutinize AI-generated scripts in daily workflows
“Because I kind of believe that Once it starts becoming a part of your workflow, you're probably not either, either you don't have the skill to understand whether or not this Python script is safe, or you're not going to read it anyway.”
Felix Rieseberg Mar 17, 2026 ▶ 1:11:04 Anthropic’s Felix Rieseberg on AI Coworkers, Local-First Agents, and the Future of Knowledge Work
Mar 20, 2026 bullish
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Singleton: TypeScript is the optimal language for AI-driven development
“TypeScript is an amazing language for AI because there's tons of training data. In the models and it's strongly typed. And actually at the company, we built most of the stack in TypeScript, and we have this amazing property, which is we have type safety all th…”
David Singleton Mar 20, 2026 ▶ 43:12 Dreamer: the Agent OS for Everyone — David Singleton
May 7, 2026 neutral
Assertion Supported
Swyx: TypeScript overtook Python in the annual GitHub developer survey
“I think this year is the year that TypeScript overtook Python in the GitHub survey, and I didn't really foresee that coming.”
Shawn Wang May 7, 2026 ▶ 15:13 Senior Dev: This "Grill Me" Prompt Is Going Viral Among Top Engineers
Jun 3, 2026 positive
Insight
Hong: Lean and Rust yield superior reinforcement learning convergence over Python
“If you want proof to be informal math, It's very annoying, because then that's, like, just makes objective function. Your code is something like Python, your proof is, say, natural language, math proof. You will not have very strong RL kind of performance, rig…”
Carina Hong Jun 3, 2026 ▶ 30:00 Scaling Past Informal AI - Carina Hong, Axiom Math
Jun 22, 2026 neutral
Insight
Fredrikson: Formal software verification takes 10 to 20 times longer than Python
“The reason people don't do it is that it's not easy and it's not fun, right? It takes you like 10 or 20 times as long to like fight with the type checker, which is essentially like proving that you don't have a vulnerability as if, as it would if you just like…”
Matt Fredrikson Jun 22, 2026 ▶ 43:10 AI Security After Codex and Claude Code — Zico Kolter & Matt Fredrikson, Gray Swan
Jul 8, 2026 positive
Insight
Bubna: AI Agent Developers Prefer TypeScript Over Python
“And the interesting thing with, like, the agent stuff is people use their TypeScript SDK a lot more because they're not actually doing anything that needs ML.”
Akshat Bubna Jul 8, 2026 ▶ 56:19 The Future of AI Infra: from Kubernetes to Agent Sandboxes — Akshat Bubna, Modal CTO
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