Paycheck Protection Program

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ALL-IN Assertion Contradicted
Lutnick: $200 billion in PPP funds went to Chinese fraud gangs
“So it was proven that two hundred billion of the 1.2 trillion was going to Chinese Fraud gangs.”
Howard Lutnick Mar 20, 2025 ▶ 50:02 Howard Lutnick | All-In DC
THE PITCH Assertion Not checkable as stated
Caldwell: ShearShare helped over 100 previously denied shop owners get PPP loans
“And we're so happy to say that over a hundred people who were first denied for their original PPP application, we helped them secure PPP funds afterwards, the second attempt.”
Courtney Caldwell Mar 4, 2025 ▶ 9:38 #92 Who Did the PPP Actually Save?
THE PITCH Assertion Supported
Muccio: Survey showed only 8% of Black applicants received federal relief funds
“A survey published in May found that only eight percent of African-American business owners that had applied for federal relief or assistance actually received the money.”
Josh Muccio Mar 4, 2025 ▶ 10:23 #92 Who Did the PPP Actually Save?
THE PITCH Insight
Hedges: Strict PPP rules prevent relief loans from extending startup runway
“Because of the rules around how you have to use it in the time period you have to use it, it's not free money, and it's not money that is like an extra cushion.”
Tina Hedges Mar 4, 2025 ▶ 13:25 #92 Who Did the PPP Actually Save?
THE PITCH Opinion
Schmorak: Hostfully raised more venture capital because of its PPP loan
“No, I actually think we raised more money from investors because of it.”
Margot Schmorak Mar 4, 2025 ▶ 16:14 #92 Who Did the PPP Actually Save?
THE PITCH Insight
Schmorak: Securing PPP loans signaled solvency and execution to investors
“What it is, it's a demonstration of how solvent your business is. It's like, can you get your together enough to apply for this program in short order and have your finances in good shape so that you can like, just do better for your business. They put it in t…”
Margot Schmorak Mar 4, 2025 ▶ 16:23 #92 Who Did the PPP Actually Save?
THE PITCH Assertion Not yet assessed · timeframe Mar 2025
Muccio: Investor Jillian Manus convinced a portfolio company to return PPP money
“But if you listen to investor Jillian Maness, she says that the government should not be giving any help to some startups. And she even convinced one of her companies to give their PPP money back.”
Josh Muccio Mar 4, 2025 ▶ 19:13 #92 Who Did the PPP Actually Save?
THE PITCH Assertion Contradicted
Bounce secured PPP relief funding one day before planned furloughs
“We got the money on Thursday.”
Cody Candee Mar 3, 2025 ▶ 19:18 #91 “If We Don’t Get the Money by Friday …”
20VC Assertion Partly supported
Reses: Square Mobilized Entire Workforce as 24/7 PPP Loan Reviewers During COVID
“We developed PPP, this is at Square, in a crisis. And we ended up with a core team of people working on it, and then we literally got the entire company of Square to volunteer for us to be, you know, loan reviewers twenty-four-seven during that period of time,…”
Jackie Reses Mar 31, 2023 ▶ 16:53 Jackie Reses: The Most Powerful Woman in Finance; Making $50BN for Yahoo on Alibaba | E996 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
WE LIVE TO BUILD Assertion Not checkable as stated
Mangaluzzo: PCS clients paid IT bills faster at the start of COVID
“I was very concerned about our accounts receivable when COVID started. Well, something very surprising happened, and this was even before the PPP. People paid their bills more quickly. I almost feel like at least for my particular business, we've shifted more …”
Anthony Mongeluzzo Nov 16, 2022 ▶ 10:43 Someone Moved the Net Every Time He Scored
TOP FOUNDERS Disclosure
Dayton: Clearview Social received $270k in PPP funds
“So we got 270,000 dollars.”
Adrian Dayton Oct 27, 2020 ▶ 6:40 ClearView Is HootSuite for Lawyers, Hits $2.3m Revenue, Would Look at Exiting for $6m
TOP FOUNDERS Assertion Supported
SnapBar secured a $217k PPP loan during COVID crisis
“A 217,000.”
Sam Eitzen Aug 16, 2020 ▶ 13:22 SnapBar Looses $3m Photobooth Revenue COVID, Pivots in 8 Days, Makes $500k on New Idea, How?
20VC Insight
Blank: Venture-backed startups should take government PPP funds to survive
“Your job is to have your company survive, and if taking that money will do that, then for gosh sake, take the money and have the other discussions later after you're a successful company.”
Steve Blank Jul 20, 2020 ▶ 23:33 20VC: Steve Blank on Why The Startup Ecosystem is Partially A Ponzi Scheme, 3 Things That Determine Startup Survival in a COVID World & Facebook: Platform vs Publisher and Where Does Their Responsibility Lie?
HOW I BUILT THIS Assertion Supported
Shake Shack was the first public company to return its PPP loan
“Within 36 hours of understanding the government had run out of money, the company and its board made the decision to return it, and it was the first of any public company to do so, and that actually began a cascade of, What I'm told is well, well north of two …”
Danny Meyer Jun 15, 2020 ▶ 51:58 Shake Shack: Danny Meyer
Hewitt: Castos Did Not Apply for PPP Due to Contractor Status
“No, I didn't apply. So, right, I, my salary does not qualify, and the other two U.S.-based folks that we have are 10 99, so they don't qualify either.”
Craig Hewitt Apr 21, 2020 ▶ 18:48 Episode 493 | Startup Roundtable
ALL-IN Opinion
Chamath: PPP math incentivizes businesses to lay off workers over taking loans
“The math makes it so that you're better off furloughing or letting people go than you are taking PPP, which means that a lot of this money may never get taken.”
Chamath Palihapitiya Apr 11, 2020 ▶ 45:10 E2: Rebooting economy, understanding corporate debt, avoiding a depression & more with David Sacks
TOP FOUNDERS Disclosure
CEO Eric Matlick applied for over $1M in PPP relief for Bombora
“It's a little over a million. I have no idea what to expect. We put the application in and”
Eric Matlick Apr 9, 2020 ▶ 13:08 1720 Bombora CEO Hits $30m ARR, Applies for PPP, Finds Virus Patterns Among B2B Brands
TOP FOUNDERS Disclosure
Pacross: Verblio expects roughly $500k from PPP stimulus loan
“I think it should be around a half a million dollars. It could, it depends on how they categorize our freelance writers. If they include those as well then it would be possibly double that, but I expect them not to.”
Steve Pockross Apr 8, 2020 ▶ 10:47 1719 He's Expecting $500k PPP Stimulus Check for Virus, At $6m ARR Today, Whats next?
TOP FOUNDERS Prediction Held up
Pacross: First round of PPP funding will quickly run out
“There's not going to be enough in there for the first round. They're either going to have to reduce the amount or find some other way to funnel through or offer a heck of a lot more.”
Steve Pockross Apr 8, 2020 ▶ 11:13 1719 He's Expecting $500k PPP Stimulus Check for Virus, At $6m ARR Today, Whats next?
Organ: Founders should take available government stimulus cash
“I would say that as a founder, if you have an opportunity to get cash from the government at this point, like I try to do it. And you're certainly going to pay enough in taxes over your lifetime. So if this is your one opportunity to get a little bit, then sur…”
Mark Organ Apr 6, 2020 ▶ 3:55 1717 3 Genius Ways To Conserve SaaS Cash To Survive Virus From Eloqua Founder Who Survived 9/11
TOP FOUNDERS Prediction Held up
Nathan Latka: The $349B PPP stimulus funds will run out quickly
“So the trick with this that, you know, Connor, that I'm trying to share with people is I think the money will run out. Right. If you take three hundred fifty billion. Right. At a max of ten million per company, that's only 34,000 companies. Right. Even even if…”
Nathan Latka Apr 3, 2020 ▶ 10:23 1714 Do This Today: How Much You Get $349b PPP Stimulus for SaaS Founders

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