Fable

“I think there's like product overhang and user overhang, like to maybe put it in our PM language, even on today's models. And I think there's like a lot that we could be exploring on like our current opuses and definitely with like Fable, for example”

“Explicitly Anthropic said. We will allow Fable to do short horizon stuff, but we will not allow it to do the long horizon stuff that, that Mythos does.”

“Three dollars per million token input, 15 dollars output. It's 40% cheaper than GPT, 5.6, 70% cheaper than Fable.”

“I appreciate a lot of what David Sachs has to say, and I've invited him on this show but this is, like, hilarious, and so rich, and ironic, that he being part of the Trump administration, which did, like, the most interventionalist policy to ban fable, is now …”

“It wasn't like Fable had cyber capabilities beyond, that weren't available, you know, from like Opus.”

“A million tokens on fable is about sacks, 56 bucks. A million from soul is about 26 bucks, which is the same as cloud for eight. A million input tokens from on grok is about a dollar 50. Zucks is about a dollar 50, Elon's about a dollar, and the Chinese models…”

“I still do think they were bandwidth limited or they were compute limited because if you look at their quota and how aggressive and reducing it and using it it's gotten much better, but especially two months ago, I mean, you would burn through your quota in a …”

“Five, six and fabled some extent if you can get around the guardrails is makes it easier, easy enough to make a machine learning pipeline and run it that, and that's everything from like grabbing the data to making, like making more synthetic data to like actu…”

“Like with fable, I was we were like literally The, our bug backlog was emptied out. You could just set it off and it was emptied out as long as you're willing to spend the money.”

“It's because it's so, it's also so slow and it's so expensive that it's really only meant for Essentially like people who are doing machine learning or are orchestrating like fleets of agents, which is just a skill that most people don't have yet.”

“After spending about 10 hours in Replit, I couldn't solve this big algo problem I solved in about 20 minutes in Fable and Opus, right?”

“And actually the preview of GPT, 5.6 is about half the cost of the of Fable.”

“My hot take is that one of the things that we saw from Anthropic with all these safeguards that it put on Fable was not as much that they were worried that Fable would be misused, although I'm sure there was some worry there. It was more that, like, we know ou…”

“The Commerce Department signs an order saying that the models are designated export controlled and that no foreigner, including the Foreign citizens who worked and actually built the models themselves can touch them.”

“Anthropic decides to actually follow through instead of immediately getting a temporary restraining order, and they, because they have no ability to make sure that no foreign citizen is, is seeing the models actually pulls them down. Both Mythos which was priv…”

“No, there's actually a paper from NIST. It's like a kind of a Godel completeness theorem kind of paper that basically says it's impossible to make a model that is completely not jailbreakable.”

“I've learned to not really trust day of or even week of model reactions. You don't really know until you've put it through its paces. And so like, I almost just, Completely block out the noise in the first couple of days of any new model release, because I don…”

“I moved much more to before going to bed, making sure that I had, like, queued up for Fable, like, enough chunky work to last. I would call it the whole night and I would check in later and it got it done in an hour and it was like, I guess, hanging out for th…”

“And I trusted it to sort of not just do the individual action, but here's like a whole language conversion of millions of hundreds of thousands of lines of code at that point. Go off and do it, go plan it, go execute it, go verify the work, double verify the w…”

“They tried to call Anthropic, They tried to call Dario, and there were a number of conversations, and the TLDR of it is Dario refused, meaning refused their request to take down Fable until this jailbreak could be fixed.”

“With the right harness and the right amount of test time compute, you can use open models to find all of the vulnerabilities that Fable can find.”

“This is something that would have cost hundreds of thousands of dollars to make, and using Fable with, ah, to video edit is totally possible.”

“It's not good at writing because you haven't put the right inputs, the right strategy, the right weekly engine, and then connect it to Fable.”

“I think that as, you know, I think it's June 22nd, you're, it's going to be API pricing. It's not going to be included in your max account.”

“Fable low is better than opus high, so it's pretty impressive.”

“So what's great about doing these tournaments. So I use fable five high over here. Is it basically instead of getting one option that maybe is okay, you're basically getting it, you're pitting it against each other, and you're getting just a lot better output.”

“Every med, spa, contractor, and clinic runs on spreadsheets, group text, because custom software costs like 80,000 dollars a year. So you sell them internal tools for 5000 dollars flat, and you build it in two days. The interview prompt is your sales call. You…”

“It's only possible now with Fable because it reads the tables and schedules insides hundreds of PDFs without dying, which is exactly where the money hides.”

“We typically charge a 60 K annual SAS fee per group using the platform.”

“We're north of 50 active accounts on the platform.”

“Oh, I mean, we're growing at over 200% a year right now, just in terms of growth rate.”

“Oh, we saw a hundred percent renewal from all of our initial contracts.”

“We, we've raised only about a million bucks of external capital.”

“Well, no, I mean, we try not to spend more than 20 K acquiring a 60 K account.”