Allocators

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Innovators & Investors Sourcery Capital Allocators TBPN 20VC

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CAPITAL ALLOCATORS Assertion Partly supported
Post-2008, 95% of hedge fund inflows went to managers over $5 billion
“If you looked at the amount of money allocated to hedge funds post the crisis, for the next three, four years, 95% of the dollars allocated to hedge funds globally went to hedge funds with more than five billion dollars.”
Nick Rohatyn Jan 22, 2026 ▶ 46:32 Nick Rohatyn – Emerging Markets Multi-Asset Investing at TRG (EP.482)
Seides: Allocators See Every Pitch Before, Despite Managers Claiming Unique Edges
“When you were an allocator meeting hundreds of funds a year, you've seen everything more than once. But every manager thinks their story is unique. They think their edge is unique.”
Ted Seides Sep 8, 2025 ▶ 48:37 Ted on Alt Goes Mainstream (EP.458)
INNOVATORS & INVESTORS Assertion Not checkable as stated
Anselm: Capital shift to private markets causes liquidity challenges for allocators
“Today, trillions of dollars in capital are moving from one place to another, in most cases in one direction, from public markets to private markets, which really causes a lot of liquidity management challenges for the various allocators.”
Charles Anselm Aug 15, 2025 ▶ 1:06 Solving Liquidity Challenges & Enhancing Transparency in Private Markets
SOURCERY Insight
Ward: VC is highly volatile due to LIFO allocator behavior
“Venture is very volatile as an asset class because it's the tail end of the whip. It's the last asset class allocators allocate to. So they start with bonds, then they go to public equities, then they'll go to real estate, you know, then they'll go to credit, …”
Henry Ward Aug 6, 2025 ▶ 15:12 Carta CEO Henry Ward on Raising $1B, Path to ~$500M ARR, & the Move into PE · Sourcery with Molly O'Shea
O'Leary: Presentation skills differentiate career analysts from senior leadership
“Things that differentiate individuals who are gonna be a perfect analyst forever do include that presentation ability, that executive presence, and frankly, that desire. Managing people is hard. Managing sideways to your executive leadership peers is work. Man…”
Shannon O'Leary Mar 10, 2025 ▶ 16:45 Shannon O'Leary – Relationship Capital Investing at St. Paul & Minnesota Foundation (EP.435)
Zorub: Institutional incentives block managers from running high-alpha concentrated portfolios
“When I contemplate why the combination of high active share, concentration, and volatility tolerance yields alpha over time, it's simply because it's too damn hard for most people in our industry to actually invest that way. It's too damn hard for managers to …”
David Zorub Mar 3, 2025 ▶ 12:55 David Zorub - Navigating Hedge Fund Headwinds at Parsifal (EP.434)
Isch: Tight stop-out limits cause PMs to play not to lose
“When you start inching towards B, you start behaving differently. Instead of playing to win, you might just be playing not to lose. And as an allocator, when you have a PM that's doing that, you're probably not getting the process that you underwrote.”
Roberto Ish Jan 16, 2025 ▶ 35:48 Mark Sullivan and Roberto Isch – Hedge Fund Investing at Wellington (EP.427)
CAPITAL ALLOCATORS Assertion Not checkable as stated
Seides: Allocators fear delayed PE distributions, not 2008-style liquidity crises
“When you talk to allocators, they're not actually worried about liquidity. This is nothing like 2008, but they are wondering when will distributions come back and how will they address continuing to invest in the private markets?”
Ted Seides Dec 30, 2024 ▶ 18:11 Year in Review 2024 (EP.424)
CAPITAL ALLOCATORS Assertion Not checkable as stated
Seides: Consolidation is accelerating among institutional allocators and asset managers
“You're starting to see consolidation. We just put out a conversation about consolidation on the allocator side. There's certainly a lot more of that happening on the manager side as well.”
Ted Seides Dec 30, 2024 ▶ 19:25 Year in Review 2024 (EP.424)
Seides: Allocators avoid emerging managers unless they are pre-vetted
“No allocator actually wants to meet with small and emerging managers. They really want to meet with good ones. They just don't want to have to go through all of the chaff to find the wheat.”
Ted Seides Dec 30, 2024 ▶ 22:08 Year in Review 2024 (EP.424)
Seides: Allocators budget heavily for money management but nothing for operations
“Allocators have infinite budgets to spend on money management services and next to no budget to spend on anything else.”
Ted Seides Dec 30, 2024 ▶ 26:49 Year in Review 2024 (EP.424)
TBPN Insight
Hays: Underperforming VCs Must Exist to Benchmark Top Allocator Outperformance
“All VCs need to exist because how can you outperform if everybody's, you know, a top performer, right? You want to be able to benchmark yourself against the bottom 80%, even if you're in the top”
Jordi Hays Dec 2, 2024 ▶ 3:07:52 How BILLIONAIRES dress for XMAS (ep17)
20VC Opinion
Khan: Existing investors marking up rounds for employee liquidity is problematic
“I don't think it's a great look when you're existing investor marking up that existing deal to give employees the, you know, liquidity. I'm surprised that investors are not, like, allocators are not asking the hard questions.”
Imran Khan Aug 26, 2024 ▶ 19:48 Imran Khan: Why the IPO Market is Not Closed & Lessons From Taking Snap & Alibaba Public | E1194 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Seides: Rational assessment favors firm growth over staying a boutique
“In almost any rational assessment, the playbook favors growth. Expanding organizations can attract and retain talent and capital, which creates durability. Staying the same may benefit from focus, but it carries significant business risk.”
Ted Seides May 31, 2024 ▶ 1:48 WTT: The Investment Manager Playbook - What Allocators Don't See
Seides: Allocators judge public managers faster than data statistically justifies
“Daily marks, monthly reporting, and frequent subscription and withdrawal dates lead allocators to draw conclusions about a manager's skill far more quickly than statistically significant data would suggest.”
Ted Seides May 31, 2024 ▶ 17:35 WTT: The Investment Manager Playbook - What Allocators Don't See
Seides: Private fund managers raise multiple funds before initial returns show
“Private market strategies can undergo two or three fundraising cycles over five or more years before allocators have any evidence of the success of their initial commitment.”
Ted Seides May 31, 2024 ▶ 17:49 WTT: The Investment Manager Playbook - What Allocators Don't See
Biscardi: Funds should only meet allocators managing at least $100M AUM
“For a fund, you want to meet with an investor who's running at least a hundred million in order for it to make sense, because at that level, you can get a large enough allocation from them that it's worth the time and energy, because this is not a quick sales …”
Ron Biscardi Feb 8, 2024 ▶ 6:02 Ron Biscardi – Inside iConnections Global Alts (EP.367)
Forman: Multi-strategy real estate managers educate allocators on niche sectors
“And that's where I think having these relative multi-strategy shops is very helpful because they actually help educate us to understand, oh, there's these other sectors over here. They think it's relatively attractive. Maybe we can do that in a bigger way some…”
Alan Forman Sep 25, 2023 ▶ 42:54 Alan Forman – Yale Endowment Real Estate (EP.340)
Ivascyn: Allocators tend to pull back right when opportunities peak
“You're going to have bad vintages. When the bad vintages occur, it's like cat risk. You get the best opportunities on a go-forward basis, but allocators tend to get scared away, or boards tend to get scared away at precisely the wrong time.”
Dan Ivascyn Feb 20, 2023 ▶ 45:13 Dan Ivascyn – Fixed Income in the Limelight Again (Capital Allocators, EP.298)
Asset allocators historically relied on asset manager technology hand-me-downs
“Allocators kept getting Investment manager hand-me-downs, or they kept getting in bed with firms that would really service their asset manager clients before them.”
Melanie Pickett Nov 17, 2022 ▶ 12:30 Melanie Pickett – Modern Technology in the Investment Office at Northern Trust (Capital Allocators, EP.281)
20VC Insight
LPs value process adherence as much as investment returns
“Doing what you said you would do, that process and adherence thereof, can be measured in the here and now, and I think that is as, if not more important, right, for allocators”
Harley Miller May 2, 2022 ▶ 10:02 20VC: Scaling to $2BN AUM in 3 years, Fundraising Lessons and Tactics from 2,500 LP Meetings & What it Takes to Build a Firm That Stands the Test of Time with Harley Miller, Co-Founder and Managing Partner @ Left Lane Capital
CAPITAL ALLOCATORS Assertion Not checkable as stated
Papa: Institutional allocators never reach out for backdoor VC references
“What surprises me is I have yet to have an allocator reach out as a backdoor reference. It's never happened. They basically take the references that the firm offers, and that's who they call.”
Steve Papa Apr 4, 2022 ▶ 43:35 Steve Papa – Entrepreneur's Perspective on Venture, Venture is Eating the Investment World 13 (Capital Allocators, EP.244)
CAPITAL ALLOCATORS Prediction Not checkable as stated
Visser: Interest rates will remain lower forever, pressuring allocators
“My belief has always been that rates would be stuck at low levels. We're still at that space, and I continue to believe that they'll be not only lower for longer, but lower forever, and that's putting more pressure than ever on allocators”
Jordi Visser Nov 8, 2021 ▶ 6:17 Jordi Visser – Analytics and AQ at Weiss (Capital Allocators, EP.221)
CAPITAL ALLOCATORS Assertion Not checkable as stated
Berntsen: 90% of First-Time Fund Allocator Meetings Are Purely Educational
“Everyone takes a meeting when you launch your first private equity fund or your first venture fund or your first hedge fund. But 90% of them are just learning from you. They're not necessarily going to invest in your first fund or in the first three years of y…”
Erik Serrano Berntsen Oct 18, 2021 ▶ 15:29 Erik Serrano Berntsen – Backing Alternative Founders at Stable Asset Management (Capital Allocators, EP.218)
Berntsen: Allocators Have a Higher Bar for Re-Evaluating Discarded Managers
“And in our industry, we see so many opportunities that revisiting something we've discarded actually has a higher bar than looking at something new, which is also kind of an interesting behavioral bias.”
Erik Serrano Berntsen Oct 18, 2021 ▶ 35:50 Erik Serrano Berntsen – Backing Alternative Founders at Stable Asset Management (Capital Allocators, EP.218)
Berntsen: Alternative Asset Consolidation Is Driven by Allocator Career Risk
“I actually think a lot of the consolidation of assets in the industry is more correlated to the allocator side of the equation. Like I mentioned, this career risk and desire to play it safe.”
Erik Serrano Berntsen Oct 18, 2021 ▶ 47:24 Erik Serrano Berntsen – Backing Alternative Founders at Stable Asset Management (Capital Allocators, EP.218)
Bonafede: Allocators typically sacrifice returns to diversify risk
“There are many allocators who have an absolute return component of their portfolio. You're, Typically trying to diversify risk with that allocation, but you end up sacrificing return in the process.”
Julia Bonafede Jul 29, 2021 ▶ 41:07 Julia Bonafede – Rosetta Analytics (Manager Meetings, EP.04)
Institutional allocators underwrite a fund manager's communication skills alongside portfolio performance
“What people don't tell you about being an investment manager is not only are people underwriting your ability to execute on an investment portfolio and to run a business, but every now and then you have allocators that are underwriting your ability to go to th…”
Brian Bares Apr 26, 2021 ▶ 1:04:08 Brian Bares – Qualitative Concentration at BCM (Capital Allocators, EP.191)
Seides: Allocators should conduct distinct interviews for each due diligence topic
“Maybe the very first interview, you're just gathering facts, trying to figure out, is this a fit structurally for what we're trying to do? Somewhere down the road, you probably want to do a deep dive on their process. You might want to do a deep dive on indivi…”
Ted Seides Mar 22, 2021 ▶ 14:23 Ted with Patrick O'Shaughnessy – Lessons from the World's Elite Money Managers (Capital Allocators, EP.184)
Seides: Allocators talk too much in manager meetings to look smart
“What you see often in manager, kind of, allocator interactions is that allocators want to be the smartest person in the room and prove themselves. And so they talk too much. You're not going to learn a whole lot about somebody else by talking. You're going to …”
Ted Seides Mar 22, 2021 ▶ 16:30 Ted with Patrick O'Shaughnessy – Lessons from the World's Elite Money Managers (Capital Allocators, EP.184)
Seides: Tech aids allocator risk and efficiency rather than direct investment decisions
“Where technological advance comes into play has more to do with the efficiency of information and risk than in making investment decisions. And the reason for that is fairly simple, which is that As you get a few layers away from the underlying asset, you have…”
Ted Seides Mar 22, 2021 ▶ 41:06 Ted with Patrick O'Shaughnessy – Lessons from the World's Elite Money Managers (Capital Allocators, EP.184)
Screening talent using elite sports like lacrosse inherently disadvantages diverse candidates
“Well, if that's your bias, you are going to disadvantage people of color. Let's just instead think about what Someone being on the lacrosse team tells you about them, and is there another proxy for that? That is more applicable for a person of color, or a pers…”
Kim Lew Aug 17, 2020 ▶ 23:39 Diversity, Equity & Inclusion 2: Kim Lew – The Opportunity and Challenge (Capital Allocators, EP.152)
Allocator liquidity demands push activists toward short-term, growth-harming interventions
“I think there's an obsession with the short-term, and it's been created because there's so many allocators that need simply quarterly or monthly liquidity, but that's just insane. And I think for activists, it's even worse because it encourages activists to pu…”
Lauren Taylor Wolfe Jul 2, 2020 ▶ 48:28 Sustainable Investing 8: Lauren Taylor Wolfe – Activist Perspective (Capital Allocators, EP.146)
Ma: Allocators should engage all managers on ESG, not just dedicated funds
“We think that there is a strong opportunity for allocators to be engaging with all of their managers on sustainability, on ESG integration, on team diversity, And especially for public equity firms, right, how their practices and policies are reflected in thei…”
Liqian Ma Jun 11, 2020 ▶ 56:53 Sustainable Investing 2: Liqian Ma – Allocator Perspective (Capital Allocators, EP.140)
Inker: Assuming an automatic illiquidity premium across private equity is dangerous
“This assumption that you get paid an illiquidity premium for anything that happens to be illiquid is I think dangerous. I think it is going to cause you not to be focused on the question of, all right, if I think this is about operational excellence, why do I …”
Ben Inker Mar 30, 2020 ▶ 1:03:00 Ben Inker – Value Investing at GMO (First Meeting, EP.17)
CAPITAL ALLOCATORS Assertion Not checkable as stated
Aitken: Trapped LPs Short Public Asset Manager Stocks to Hedge Exposures
“If I'm an allocator to a particularly large buy side firm, and I say to myself, gosh, I can't redeem, but how do I justify to my superiors that I've done my best to hedge? I start shorting that stock. And I know it's absurd, but I've actually seen it happen ov…”
James Aitken Mar 18, 2020 ▶ 40:09 James Aitken – Systemic Risk in a Crisis (Capital Allocators, EP.126)
Hamilton: Allocators conduct excessively invasive diligence on female GPs
“Particularly, I've noticed that if it's a female GP or a female head of office, that people will go to this like nth degree to find every single thing out about this person.”
Christy Hamilton Mar 9, 2020 ▶ 49:06 Christie Hamilton – Tweeting on Allocation at Children's Health (Capital Allocators, EP.124)
Over-communicating during crises keeps allocator assets sticky
“The firms that over-communicate during crises are the ones that have the sticky assets.”
Kip McDaniel Dec 9, 2019 ▶ 38:43 Kip McDaniel – How to Get an Allocator's Attention (Capital Allocators, EP.115)
Ana Marshall: Former portfolio managers risk backseat driving when becoming allocators
“So I think the biggest lesson was how to not backseat drive, because that is, I think the biggest risk to having this model of people from switching from being existing portfolio managers to our side.”
Ana Marshall Oct 21, 2019 ▶ 16:41 Ana Marshall – Applied Direct Investing at the William and Flora Hewlett Foundation (Capital Allocators, EP.111)
Marshall: Evaluating managers requires deep analytical dives into their stocks
“The only way to really know if somebody's good is to dive into a stock. And so you have to be up on what's going on in these stocks to be able to really have deep analytical conversations.”
Ana Marshall Oct 21, 2019 ▶ 20:55 Ana Marshall – Applied Direct Investing at the William and Flora Hewlett Foundation (Capital Allocators, EP.111)
Levine: The essential skill of a hedge fund manager is storytelling
“I mean, I often write that the essential skill of a hedge fund manager is continuing to run a hedge fund. There's some sort of Inherent storytelling element to the job where you'll have like a time series of returns and like, that's interesting, but what you m…”
Matt Levine Apr 29, 2019 ▶ 37:28 Matt Levine – Money Stuff (Capital Allocators, EP.97)
Levine: Allocators rely on stories framing managers' losses as anomalous
“To some extent, it's like you're telling yourself a story about like why this guy, why his good results are representative and his bad results are anomalous. And the story that is intellectually satisfying to you is naturally going to get some weight.”
Matt Levine Apr 29, 2019 ▶ 38:16 Matt Levine – Money Stuff (Capital Allocators, EP.97)
Seides: Allocators interview different team subsets to test message consistency
“In those first couple of meetings, you might have roughly the same meeting with different subsets of people on the other team. And so as the person on the other side of the table, you're looking for consistency of the message. You're looking for the way people…”
Ted Seides Apr 8, 2019 ▶ 20:35 Ted Seides – Interviewing and Manager Meetings (Capital Allocators, EP.94)
Seides: Fund managers pitch on autopilot instead of listening to allocators
“Ultimately, it comes down to listening. I think that when you're in a dynamic, when someone enters a room to be presenting Their heart and soul, their business, their strategy. They do have a tendency to just tell their story. Press play and tell their story. …”
Ted Seides Apr 8, 2019 ▶ 33:26 Ted Seides – Interviewing and Manager Meetings (Capital Allocators, EP.94)
Moodgal: Investors Who Take Longer to Diligence Stay Invested Longer
“The longer that someone takes, the longer they're going to be with you.”
Rahul Moodgal Feb 18, 2019 ▶ 35:14 Rahul Moodgal - Master Fund Raiser (Capital Allocators, EP.87)
Hight: Managers unable to name their sixth-best idea have flawed processes
“Really the question that an allocator could ask is say, hey, what's your sixth best idea? And pause. And wait for them to tell you what their sixth best idea is. Now, if they can turn to a sheet, or a dashboard, or something like that, that says, that's my six…”
Cameron Hight Mar 12, 2018 ▶ 1:08:56 Clare Flynn Levy and Cameron Hight - Moneyball for Managers (Capital Allocators, EP.43)
Allocators holding 5,000 equities have very little chance of generating alpha
“If you did a look through analysis in Allocator, and you owned 5000 equities, and your top 10 were nine percent, There was really very little chance that you were going to generate substantial alpha over the S&P, right?”
Basil Qunibi Mar 5, 2018 ▶ 22:18 Basil Qunibi - Moneyball for Allocators (Capital Allocators, EP.42)
Allowing hedge funds double the volatility could more than double returns
“If we could just let our managers run with twice as much of all, I think we'd probably get more than twice as much return.”
Basil Qunibi Mar 5, 2018 ▶ 50:49 Basil Qunibi - Moneyball for Allocators (Capital Allocators, EP.42)
Mauboussin: Statistically Evaluating Managers Requires Longer Time Horizons Than Practice Allows
“Some of the academic work and some of the simulation work suggests that the time horizon is a little bit longer than it is practically. But the flip side is if I'm an allocator and I have someone who's underperforming, I don't really don't know if it's just a …”
Michael Mauboussin Jan 8, 2018 ▶ 52:48 Michael Mauboussin – Active Challenges, Rational Decisions and Team Dynamics (Capital Allocators, EP.36)
Early hedge fund allocators are price makers, late investors are price takers
“If you want to go invest in the Two, three, five, ten billion dollar hedge fund today and be the next marginal investor, you're always a price taker. But when you invest early on, you have the opportunity to be a price maker.”
Ted Seides Dec 18, 2017 ▶ 18:11 Deep Dive into Hedge Funds (Capital Allocators, EP.34)
Acito: Allocators face an existential crisis over investment-grade fixed income
“I think allocators of the world out there right now are really going through an existential crisis as to what to do about investment grade.”
Chris Acito Dec 11, 2017 ▶ 21:33 Chris Acito – Credit Where Credit is Due (Capital Allocators, EP.33)
Sonkin: Top long-term outperforming investors have less specialization than allocators expect
“The other problem that we kind of see with allocators is that they're looking, well, and you can opine on this more than I can, is that they're looking for specialization, and if you look at the people that have really outperformed over long periods of time, t…”
Paul Sonkin Nov 27, 2017 ▶ 48:43 Paul Johnson and Paul Sonkin – The Perfect Investment (Capital Allocators, EP.32)
Ellison: Direct portfolio management provides essential training for future allocators
“I think direct management of portfolios is a wonderful training for someone who ultimately becomes an allocator because you get used to pulling the trigger, you get used to being wrong and having to extricate yourself from mistakes and understanding the nature…”
Ellen Ellison Oct 2, 2017 ▶ 10:15 Ellen Ellison – Playing to Your Strengths (Capital Allocators, EP.27)
Blitz: Allocators should add to underperforming managers and trim top performers
“You want to be reducing when someone's doing well. You want to be adding when someone's doing poorly if everything else, all else is equal. You want to be investing in a new manager, at least new for our portfolio after a period in which they've been strugglin…”
Adam Blitz Jul 17, 2017 ▶ 48:19 Adam Blitz – Inside Hedge Fund Allocation (Capital Allocators, EP.17)

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