CEO

also referred to as: ceos

53 statements across 37 episodes · 13 bullish · 12 bearish · 24 people on the record · first statement Jul 7, 2017 by Josh Stein · across every show →

Everything said about CEO, oldest first

Jul 7, 2017
Insight
Startups hit severe organizational breakpoints at 50 and 200 employees
“We think, I always tell people, we see three distinct breakpoints for CEOs. The first is around 40 or 50 people and that's usually where communications break down. You can't just rely on osmosis to get information out in the company anymore. You gotta actually…”
Josh Stein Jul 7, 2017 ▶ 16:08 Josh Stein of DFJ: What Makes a Great SaaS CEO
Jul 7, 2017
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CEOs of 1,000-person companies should have at most ten direct reports
“And then a thousand is really interesting, because at a thousand, like if you're interacting From a reporting relationship with more than, I'd say, six to 10 people, you're really probably doing something wrong. Spending most of your time externally, and then …”
Josh Stein Jul 7, 2017 ▶ 16:46 Josh Stein of DFJ: What Makes a Great SaaS CEO
Jul 7, 2017 neutral
Insight
Startup leadership fatigue and executive turnover peak at year five
“Year five is where it gets tough. You get tired. And the best CEOs and VPs and teams push through to that sixth year. And the other ones, it's tough. You see a lot of transition in five years. You see a lot of folks handing the reins to other folks.”
Jason Lemkin Jul 7, 2017 ▶ 1:37 Josh Stein of DFJ: What Makes a Great SaaS CEO
Nov 1, 2017
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Peter: Explaining deprioritization to CEOs is more critical than explaining prioritization
“Most founders are going to have the big idea to start the company, and they're going to have many ideas that are all top priorities, and so I think it's the job of the VP of product to be able to not just prioritize those ideas but really do the analysis and g…”
Ciara Peter Nov 1, 2017 ▶ 13:25 What a Great VP of Product Really Does | SaaStr
Nov 1, 2017 negative
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Stross: Visionary founders without product backgrounds struggle to direct engineering tasks
“The trap that companies will fall into is, ah, that you've got the CEO with some vision of, like, here's this customer problem, and I'm gonna build this product. But they've never actually been a product person, and breaking down that kind of generic vision in…”
John Strauss Nov 1, 2017 ▶ 9:21 What a Great VP of Product Really Does | SaaStr
Dec 20, 2017 positive
Insight
Fraden: Average Customers Reveal More About Flaws Than Top Accounts
“If you're not spending your time with your average customer and figuring out, you know, why is this particular customer nowhere near as big as this other bank I mentioned earlier? It's, on paper, it's the same size. Why isn't that really happening, and what ar…”
Russ Fraden Dec 20, 2017 ▶ 18:59 How the Relationship Changes Between CEO and VP Sales After Funding
Dec 20, 2017 positive
Insight
Fraden: Series B CEOs should still spend half their time with customers
“And to me, when you get into your B, it's still important as a CEO to spend half your time with your customers, with your existing customers, with your prospects.”
Russ Fraden Dec 20, 2017 ▶ 7:42 How the Relationship Changes Between CEO and VP Sales After Funding
Dec 20, 2017
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Fraden: Early-stage enterprise SaaS CEOs must be primary product sellers
“If you're not one of the primary sellers for your company's product in the early days, to me you have no business starting and running the company”
Russ Fraden Dec 20, 2017 ▶ 3:00 How the Relationship Changes Between CEO and VP Sales After Funding
Sep 11, 2018
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Collin: CEO role changes every six months, requiring different coaches
“So my job changes probably at least every six months. And every time I need to learn a new job, and every time I don't know if I'll be great at the next job I feel like, one, having, ah, a coach is useful, and it can be a different coach every six months.”
Mathilde Collin Sep 11, 2018 ▶ 5:19 Fireside Chat with CEO and Founder of Front, Mathilde Collin
Jan 8, 2019
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Cohen: Founders will always get the credit without retaining executive titles
“You don't have to hold onto these things like CEO or C whatever or blah, blah, blah for ego because you'll still get the credit. Your ego is going to be fine. You're going to get the ego stuff anyway, which is cool.”
Jason Cohen Jan 8, 2019 ▶ 22:44 From Burn-Out to $100M in ARR with Jason Cohen, Founder of WP Engine
May 8, 2019 neutral
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Reaching 8-12 employees forces pre-PMF founders to manage instead of iterate
“Around that size the primary job of a CEO has to start switching to management. And usually for a pre-product market fit company, the primary job of the CEO should be to focus on product market fit.”
Michael Seibel May 8, 2019 ▶ 3:30 A Decade of Learnings from Y Combinator's CEO Michael Seibel
May 22, 2019 negative
Insight
Board misalignment is the primary cause of startup CEO firings
“The number one cause of CEO death is misalignment with the board.”
Dave Kellogg May 22, 2019 ▶ 26:29 The Top 5 Questions Every CEO Wrestles With - Lessons From Dave Kellogg
May 22, 2019 negative
Insight
Sending startup board slides under 24 hours in advance looks terrible
“If you're getting the board slides out 24 hours or less before the board meeting, you're not looking good, almost regardless.”
Dave Kellogg May 22, 2019 ▶ 19:27 The Top 5 Questions Every CEO Wrestles With - Lessons From Dave Kellogg
May 22, 2019
Insight
CEOs must quickly eliminate executive team infighting and warring princes
“And if you're CEO of the company, you cannot allow warring princes in your company. Everybody sees it. The whole company knows if two E staffers are at war.”
Dave Kellogg May 22, 2019 ▶ 14:58 The Top 5 Questions Every CEO Wrestles With - Lessons From Dave Kellogg
May 22, 2019 negative
Insight
CEOs must proactively assign board members work or risk unhelpful meddling
“If I'm not keeping the board busy, Helping me drive the company, they are going to come in with ideas and ways to help that I may not find helpful.”
Dave Kellogg May 22, 2019 ▶ 20:21 The Top 5 Questions Every CEO Wrestles With - Lessons From Dave Kellogg
Apr 28, 2020
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Butterfield: Crises give executives cover to push through difficult organizational restructurings
“The backdrop of global pandemic change is so enormous that you can kind of sneak in anything you want. And we see I see that talking to other CEOs today, not my customers, just like, There's essentially a group therapy SAS CEO round table. And it's like, oh, t…”
Stewart Butterfield Apr 28, 2020 ▶ 13:20 Taking Care Of Your Team and Your Customers with Slack | SaaStr Software Community
Jan 10, 2021 positive
Insight
Kellogg: Every SaaS CEO should use a driver-based financial model
“I think every CEO should have a driver-based model where you play with sales productivity, sales turnover, sales ramp time, marketing is a percent of sales, cost per sale. You put these various drivers in and you can see what happens to your business, see thei…”
Dave Kellogg Jan 10, 2021 ▶ 2:43 Churn is dead. Long live Net Dollar Retention Rate with Dave Kellogg | SaaStr Software Community
Feb 8, 2021 neutral
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Bonnici: Journalists only write about products that are innovative or rule-breaking
“Too many CEOs think that like marketers can convince PR people and journalists to write about anything. And the reality is journalists don't give a shit about your product unless it is truly doing something innovative or unless it's breaking rules and they'll …”
Ryan Bonnici Feb 8, 2021 ▶ 22:38 How to Market at Mass Scale | Harry Stebbings, The Twenty Minute VC & Whereby CMO Ryan Bonnici
Jul 28, 2021 positive
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Dorsey: CEOs must be their company's public face to evoke buyer emotion
“Information on a brand and a product rarely evokes emotion. Information about people does. Right. And this is why every CEO should be the face of their company. People will attach to that.”
Kevin Dorsey Jul 28, 2021 ▶ 12:21 Kevin Dorsey, VP Sales at PatientPop Shares Cutting Edge Techniques for Building Trust in Sales
Sep 17, 2021 positive
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Lemkin: CEOs must prioritize net revenue retention over gross retention
“I think if you get, if you make everyone responsible for gross retention and net retention, they're gonna bang their heads on the table. You gotta pick a CEO like what's more important and it's gotta be net retention, right?”
Jason Lemkin Sep 17, 2021 ▶ 19:21 Nick Mehta CEO Gainsight + Jason Lemkin CEO SaaStr on "The Latest in Leveling Up Customer Success"
Nov 30, 2021 positive
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Lemkin: Startup board meetings primarily serve as forcing functions for VPs
“Until you're big, until you're at 40, fifty million, when board meetings really are about money around the table, right? Until that phase, board meetings are at least 50% for your management team to present. There is nothing, few things more valuable to a CEO …”
Jason Lemkin Nov 30, 2021 ▶ 46:30 Scaling a Successful SaaS Sales Team w/ 20VC Founder Harry Stebbings and SaaStr Founder Jason Lemkin
Nov 30, 2021 negative
Opinion
Lemkin blames CEOs lowering VP hiring bars for wasted startup capital
“The great marketers don't spend money on, on programs that don't perform, right? So I think this is true, but I blame the CEOs for lowering the bar on hiring for VPs.”
Jason Lemkin Nov 30, 2021 ▶ 9:09 Scaling a Successful SaaS Sales Team w/ 20VC Founder Harry Stebbings and SaaStr Founder Jason Lemkin
Jan 6, 2022
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Kellogg: CEOs should only hold teams accountable for pipeline coverage and sales
“I think the number one mistake I've seen founders make is they hold people's feet to the fire on all those cells, and I think that's wrong. I think it's demotivating. I think it doesn't reflect an understanding of the fact that the model deviates from reality.…”
Dave Kellogg Jan 6, 2022 ▶ 21:12 A CEO's Guide to Marketing with Dave Kellogg | SaaStr Software Community
Feb 3, 2022
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Srinivasan: CMOs Must Distill Founder Visions Into Actionable Operational Milestones
“What I have found over and over is if you have a founder or a CEO with a particularly large vision, they're thinking 20 years out. They're thinking big, far reaching, you know, wide kind of visions, and it's the job of the CMO to bring it down to the one year,…”
Kady Srinivasan Feb 3, 2022 ▶ 4:47 Marketing Hyper-Growth at Scale with Klaviyo’s SVP, Global Head of Marketing, Kady Srinivasan
Mar 5, 2022
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Spruill: CEOs doing core tasks indicates an incomplete executive team
“Put a list together of what needs to be done with your exec team, and go through each item on the list, and assign That whatever it is to somebody on the team. And if you can't get through that task list, initiative list, whatever it is, with your name not bei…”
Yancey Spruill Mar 5, 2022 ▶ 21:24 Hacks for Founders of High-Growth Startups with DigitalOcean CEO Yancey Spruill
Mar 28, 2022 negative
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Blond: Founders gain no advantage setting revenue targets above board expectations
“There was no advantage for this CEO to set the target at forty million dollars in the first place. What you should have done with hindsight, is reached out to the board before the meeting, said, what does a successful twenty-twenty-two look like to you all? Th…”
Sam Blond Mar 28, 2022 ▶ 12:32 How to Set and Hit Revenue Targets with Sam Blond, CRO at Brex | SaaStr Software Community
Aug 16, 2022
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Binch: CEOs and CROs Must Align on Logo-Volume vs High-ACV Strategy
“As a past CRO, it's really critical that you and the CEO have the same answer. So it doesn't matter which answer it is that you have, but have the same answer.”
Bill Binch Aug 16, 2022 ▶ 2:17 SaaS Secret Sauce: How the CEO/CRO Dynamic Drives Growth | Marketo’s Former EVP Sales Bill Binch
Aug 23, 2022 positive
Insight
Startup CEOs can make binding customer commitments that sales reps cannot
“The CEO, you know, can commit himself to things that your sales team will never be able to commit to.”
Eléonore Crespo Aug 23, 2022 ▶ 16:39 Why Choosing Your First Customers Matters More Than You Think | Pigment Co-Founder Eléonore Crespo
Aug 25, 2022
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Lemkin: Founders must recruit superior talent and stay curious to remain CEO
“One, if you can recruit people better than you should still be the CEO, and two, I think you have to have a curious mind.”
Jason Lemkin Aug 25, 2022 ▶ 1:30 The Answers To Scaling, Hiring, And Everything Else: An AMA With Saastr Founder & Ceo Jason Lemkin
Feb 3, 2023 neutral
Insight
Lemkin: Early-stage CEOs are sales proxies, but the CTO is the product
“I view the CEO as the proxy for sales and marketing. Like if the CEO is great with some help, maybe you and I can, we're working on a search together day. We can help you find a sales and marketing leader. But I don't really care who you have at a hundred K in…”
Jason Lemkin Feb 3, 2023 ▶ 33:12 What Venture Looks Like In 2023 | SaaStr Founder Jason Lemkin + 20VC Host Harry Stebbings
Feb 7, 2023 neutral
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Wilson: Enterprise software purchasing decisions are shifting to CFOs and CEOs
“One thing that's been consistent, and I bet most sales leaders would agree with this, is that the buying decisions, which used to be with the functional lead, which in our case is the chief people officer, are now oftentimes getting pushed to the CFO, sometime…”
Hannah Wilson Feb 7, 2023 ▶ 3:05 How To Adapt Your Sales Strategy To The Current Sales Environment | Modern Health SVP of Sales
Mar 10, 2023
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Lemkin: CEOs must spend 20% to 30% of time recruiting past $1M ARR
“The best CEOs recruit 20 to 30% of the time. Constantly. 20 to 30. If you're not spending 20 to 30% of your time as a CEO recruiting after a million or two in revenue, you're not getting the job done.”
Jason Lemkin Mar 10, 2023 ▶ 2:45 SaaStr APAC AMA with Jason Lemkin, SaaStr CEO
Jul 14, 2023
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Lemkin: Enterprise CEOs Check and Open Problem-Solving Emails
“The weird thing about CEOs, Even of huge companies, is almost all of them open all their emails. They sit in front of their phones, and their computers, and look, they don't open the dumb emails, and they don't go to the promotions tab, ok?”
Jason Lemkin Jul 14, 2023 ▶ 17:11 Why You're Unfundable Today: The Cold, Hard Truths About SaaS Part 2 with SaaStr CEO Jason Lemkin
Aug 9, 2023
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A startup CEO has only three core jobs across all funding stages
“There's three jobs for the CEO, and this is true when you're Series A and it's true when you're Series F. You gotta keep money in the bank, you have to sell the vision internally and externally, and you have to fire yourself by hiring people to do jobs better …”
Spencer Kimball Aug 9, 2023 ▶ 34:47 Scaling to $5B with Cockroach Labs' CEO Spencer Kimball's Formula for Sustained Growth + Resilience
Sep 3, 2023
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Kellogg: Executive infighting is a direct reflection of a weak CEO
“Another friend of mine has this expression from Machiavelli that warring princes means one thing, a weak king. And if you're CEO of the company, you cannot allow warring princes in your company. Everybody sees it. The whole company knows if two E staffers are …”
Dave Kellogg Sep 3, 2023 ▶ 9:38 "The Top 5 Questions Every CEO Wrestles With Dave Kellogg, ex-CEO Host Analytics": SaaStr Classic
Sep 3, 2023 negative
Insight
Dave Kellogg: Board misalignment is the leading cause of CEO termination
“The number one cause of CEO death is misalignment with the board.”
Dave Kellogg Sep 3, 2023 ▶ 21:17 "The Top 5 Questions Every CEO Wrestles With Dave Kellogg, ex-CEO Host Analytics": SaaStr Classic
Sep 3, 2023 neutral
Insight
Kellogg: Startup board members often assign executives a sell-by date for their roles
“And this notion of having a sell by date, it may not be polite, but often board members have it, and if they have it, I'd advise you to understand what they are. And to try and reframe the issue that it shouldn't be that John or Mary is with the company or not…”
Dave Kellogg Sep 3, 2023 ▶ 12:04 "The Top 5 Questions Every CEO Wrestles With Dave Kellogg, ex-CEO Host Analytics": SaaStr Classic
Sep 3, 2023
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Kellogg: A CEO's Reluctance to Meet Direct Reports Signals Serious Problems
“That's how you lose interest in meeting with a direct report, and I view the non-desire to meet with one as a huge warning sign that you should inspect.”
Dave Kellogg Sep 3, 2023 ▶ 9:26 "The Top 5 Questions Every CEO Wrestles With Dave Kellogg, ex-CEO Host Analytics": SaaStr Classic
Nov 8, 2023
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Mehta: Companies collapse when executives don't share the founder's core beliefs
“The whole thing falls apart when you have some vision as a founder, CEO, entrepreneur, or even if you're a functional leader, and the people underneath you don't believe the same things, it's all a house of cards.”
Nick Mehta Nov 8, 2023 ▶ 6:26 Nick Mehta, CEO Gainsight: My Top 10 Failures as a SaaS CEO & What I've Learned
Nov 15, 2023
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Skates: Innovation stalls at 50 engineers without deliberate organizational restructuring
“Almost every CEO that I talk to that goes past about 50 engineers runs into exactly this problem, and they realize they haven't spent enough time on this, so I can't overemphasize it, spending enough time on this.”
Spenser Skates Nov 15, 2023 ▶ 6:26 Hitting Hypergrowth with Amplitude's CEO, Spenser Skates: Take Your SaaS Company from $25M to $100M+
Mar 20, 2024 positive
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Lemkin: CEOs Read Every Inbound Email and Reply If Top Problems Addressed
“CEOs read like every email. Every email. And it's just, they don't, Howard's nodding his head. Even when he was running Yext, 22 quarters is a public. He didn't respond to any of them. And if the email was great, if it was like, if it was going to solve one of…”
Jason Lemkin Mar 20, 2024 ▶ 32:14 Advice Every SaaS Founder Needs to Know to Scale to $100m with Sam Blond and Jason Lemkin
Sep 6, 2024 neutral
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Lemkin: SMB SaaS go-live rates typically land around 80%
“The actual number of paid customers that go live is in the eighties. They're often, as CEOs, we think, oh God, it must be 96%. And they're often shocked when they look at the data and they're like, oh my God, it's 81% of our customers go live, right? They're a…”
Jason Lemkin Sep 6, 2024 ▶ 14:40 Why Vertical SaaS is Booming, And How to Get 110% NRR from SMBs, with Jason Lemkin + Mangomint's CEO
Sep 19, 2024 negative
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Lemkin: Never Hire Executives Who Blame Former CEOs For Failures
“Don't hire the jaded. The one literally four minutes in your interview, they're telling you how the CEO or the VC screwed them over... Don't hire them. They're going to think the same thing of you about three weeks in.”
Jason Lemkin Sep 19, 2024 ▶ 8:41 How to Hire a Great VP of Sales Today with SaaStr CEO Jason Lemkin
Oct 18, 2024 positive
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Lemkin: Scaling CEOs must spend 20% to 30% of time recruiting executives
“Which is to be a CEO like you got to be like constantly, I think you got to spend 20 to 30% of your time soft recruiting execs.”
Jason Lemkin Oct 18, 2024 ▶ 5:29 The Future of AI and Sales in SaaS with Henry Schuck, CEO of ZoomInfo and SaaStr CEO Jason Lemkin
Nov 12, 2024 negative
Insight
B2B CEOs who do not gain energy meeting customers should be replaced
“If you don't gain energy meeting with customers, maybe you should find another CEO.”
Jason Lemkin Nov 12, 2024 ▶ 17:08 Samsara’s Rise to Vertical SaaS Leader and $1B+ ARR with Samsara's CEO and Co-Founder
Dec 18, 2024 negative
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Lemkin: Hire Hungry Up-and-Comers as Replacement CEOs, Not Repeat Veterans
“Find someone that's doing it for the right reasons to accelerate their career. Okay. Not someone that's a fuddy-duddy, not someone that's been a CEO 11 times. They're not going to have the energy you have, and it's not going to work out. They've got to have a …”
Jason Lemkin Dec 18, 2024 ▶ 35:23 How to Think About Product-Led Growth, Bootstrapping vs VC, and Early Exits with Jason Lemkin
Dec 18, 2024 positive
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Lemkin: Greenhouse Reached $10M ARR via Outbound with CEO Managing 12 SDRs
“The CEO, for whatever reason, in the early days, maybe loved is the wrong word, but he enjoyed managing, he managed 12 SDRs himself before he hired a sales leader... So greenhouse got to ten million through outbound, right?”
Jason Lemkin Dec 18, 2024 ▶ 20:11 How to Think About Product-Led Growth, Bootstrapping vs VC, and Early Exits with Jason Lemkin
Dec 18, 2024 negative
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Lemkin: Zero Chance an Executive Hire Works Without 100% Founder Belief
“If you hire someone that you don't a hundred percent believe in it, zero percent chance it's going to work out.”
Jason Lemkin Dec 18, 2024 ▶ 36:09 How to Think About Product-Led Growth, Bootstrapping vs VC, and Early Exits with Jason Lemkin
Jan 22, 2025 positive
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Lord: CEOs must spend 10% to 20% of time with customers
“You should always, regardless of size, the CEO should be actively involved, you know, at least 10% of their time to 20% engaged with customers and partners.”
Kathy Lord Jan 22, 2025 ▶ 32:59 What to Expect from a New CRO with Kathy Lord, CRO at Zensai
Jan 22, 2025
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Lemkin: Executives flame out from CEO goal misalignment, not lack of ability
“And I see so many executives flame out weeks two through 20 or 50, and it's not that they weren't great. It's just, they were never aligned with the CEO.”
Jason Lemkin Jan 22, 2025 ▶ 3:56 What to Expect from a New CRO with Kathy Lord, CRO at Zensai
Jan 22, 2025 positive
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Lemkin: Give CRO candidates signed offers with time to validate plans
“Give them an unsigned off, give them a signed offer letter, but don't ask them to countersign until they're all in that way. The pressure's off, right? Here's your comp. Here's your title. Here's your equity. It's signed. If you need two weeks to make sure you…”
Jason Lemkin Jan 22, 2025 ▶ 24:45 What to Expect from a New CRO with Kathy Lord, CRO at Zensai
May 2, 2025 bullish
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Benioff: Current CEOs Are the Last Generation With Only Human Employees
“I'm the last generation of CEOs to say, maybe you are too, that we only had human employees.”
Marc Benioff May 2, 2025 ▶ 19:43 AI, M&A, and the Future of SaaS: Lessons from Marc Benioff, Salesforce CEO, Co-Founder and Chair
Oct 16, 2025 negative
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Persson: Enterprise AI progress fails without an explicit CEO mandate
“I also advise some companies Sit on board of companies, and there are some companies where the leadership, the mandate doesn't come from a leadership level, and nothing is happening in those organizations. The CEO really need to say this is one of our top prio…”
Denise Persson Oct 16, 2025 ▶ 37:51 Snowflake's AI Revolution in Sales, Marketing and GTM with Snowflake‘s CMO and Founding CRO
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