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Verbatim, from the transcripts: the passages where California comes up
What comes after the data center backlash?
- ▶ 35:36 Brian Janous They built one off the coast of California.
- ▶ 48:06 Shayle Kann It's on October 22nd in Oakland, California.
The rise of metal fuels
- ▶ 11:57 Shayle Kann You know, you and I are in California.
Can AI revolutionize grid operations?
- ▶ 1:09 Shayle Kann And I say that as a Californian who pays over 40 cents a kilowatt hour for power and sometimes experiences wildfire-driven proactive power shutoffs.
Critical Capital: Senator Tillis' case for "all-of-the-above" energy
- ▶ 8:14 Tom Tillis I wasn't 90 or a 120 days into my tenure as a freshman in the perpetual minority when I approached the Democrats and said, you're about to make a massive mistake with a renewable portfolio standard modeled after California.
The commercial battery comeback
- ▶ 7:17 Tim Hade And so where you saw most of that development happen was in states that had pretty heavy state level subsidies to incentivize the deployment of storage, uh, you know, California being sort of the leader of, of that effort.
- ▶ 11:45 Shayle Kann I live in California. 2 times in the scene
The multi-billion dollar promise of vehicle-to-grid integration
- ▶ 19:24 Steve Letendre For those customers located in those utility service territories where there was a monetization opportunity, um, you know, we see have opportunity in, in, in California and some utility programs, some pilot programs, Massachusetts, New…
- ▶ 28:56 Steve Letendre They're working with Pacific Gas and Electric in California to participate in their VDAX pilot program, and so I believe it is kind of a streamlined, in-app process where you, uh, sign up for participation in these programs.
Surprising trends in global electricity generation
- ▶ 32:46 Nick Fulgham But for a country like Germany, Spain, some provinces in China that have high solar capacity and high solar penetration, California, quite a few systems, Australia is also one, 3 times in the scene
Cracking the code on autonomous trucking
- ▶ 42:09 Eyal Cohen Uh, in California a week ago, you were, you would not have been legally permitted to do a driverless truck.
Volts crossover: Six big energy questions
- ▶ 8:31 Shayle Kann I mean, he's growing up, you know, in kind of suburban Bay Area, California, so take that into account, because this is a specific bet to my son. 2 times in the scene
The rise of permissionless DERs
- ▶ 19:57 Shayle Kann One reason is if they're in like California and you have a net meter, if you have solar and you have net metering rules that make it like super uneconomic to have solar unless you can discharge it into the house or discharge it into the… 2 times in the scene
New Mexico proves America can still build [partner content]
- ▶ 17:52 Rob Black So when you layer all of those things on with a capital stack, that means if you leave California, you don't leave Silicon Valley capital, because we're going to make sure those folks are paying attention to you.
- ▶ 28:41 Rob Black Frankly, those are benefits that if you're hiring people, or you're bringing your people from California or New York to live in New Mexico, that's a benefit you as a company now are giving to your employees without having to pay for it,…
Frontier Forum: A new playbook for clean energy growth
- ▶ 17:16 Heather O'Neill So in Virginia, we passed legislation earlier this year that'll accelerate VPP pilot programs, and in California, as everyone knows, that legislative session is ongoing, um, and so we have bills currently moving through the process. 2 times in the scene
Ag residue and carbon removal
- ▶ 7:18 Shayle Kann And like, that's gonna be different from almond shells in California, from whatever, whatever soybean husks or whatever else it is.
AMA: Geoengineering, nuclear, power prices, and more
- ▶ 8:57 Lara Pierpoint Coming at us from Philip Healy, another fellow Californian, which clean energy sectors would be the best use of funds, and which of those areas overlap with delivering the most near-term cost decreases in electricity prices? 4 times in the scene
- ▶ 16:04 Shayle Kann I don't know, maybe it's too early in the, the, the curve on electricity prices outside California, I should say, has bent upward, but, like, fairly recently.
PJM and the capacity crunch
- ▶ 28:36 Steve Piper Um, but, uh, New York ISO, New England ISO, um, California, Texas, all the major ISOs, Midwest, Midwest ISO, um, 2 times in the scene
Five big questions emerging from the OBBB
- ▶ 30:36 Andy Lubershane I think we're really only talking about the Western US, you know, Nevada, California, places where you have heat that still rises fairly naturally, uh, reasonably close to the surface of the earth.
- ▶ 41:57 Andy Lubershane There's this other, uh, administration action that I think will, will make a real impact, which is, um, uh, which is clamping down and, and, um, uh, stopping California from pursuing its own, um, 2 times in the scene
Tumult in residential solar
- ▶ 0:15 Julian Dumoulin-Smith Post IRA, it was almost like the best day was day one after IRA, and after that, there was just an ongoing, like, train of challenges, whether it was the, the wider trade narrative, or frankly, as you put your finger on a second ago, the,…
- ▶ 6:13 Shayle Kann Net metering changes, particularly in, in California, just making it less lucrative.
- ▶ 13:19 Julian Dumoulin-Smith Cumulative challenges that we've seen post IRA, it was almost like the best day was day one after IRA, and after that, there was just an ongoing, like, train of challenges, whether it was the, the wider trade narrative, or frankly, as you… 2 times in the scene
Fresh intel from state utility regulatory filings
- ▶ 2:33 Shayle Kann All right, so some of you may already know this, but my first job, my very first job out of college was working at the California Public Utilities Commission, the state regulator for utilities in California.
- ▶ 23:06 Shayle Kann I mean, I live in California where they've been rising like crazy, but even outside of California, right? 3 times in the scene
- ▶ 34:51 Nat Bullard Um, it has a, a major utility there called Otter Tail, which remains one of my favorite names, uh, animal themed, uh, power, power utilities up there with Bear Valley Electric in California.
The gas turbine crunch
- ▶ 5:53 Tony Brough I mean, they clearly were sending artificial signals to the marketplace that were driving up, um, uh, the cost of electricity significantly in several regions of the country, California, Texas, and other areas.
How geothermal gets built
- ▶ 29:07 Shayle Kann I mean, we talked about geysers and geysers in California, but actually most of the geothermal that has been developed historically is not in California so much as, as Nevada and places like that. 2 times in the scene
A former race car engineer on battery safety and supply chains [partner content]
- ▶ 4:35 Stephen Lacey The Moss Landing battery fire in California that recently happened was a pretty pivotal moment for energy storage, and I wonder if you can talk us through, uh, what happened and what we learned from that incident, and how is it shaping the… 2 times in the scene
Terrawatt Infrastructure’s billion-dollar strategy
- ▶ 4:49 Neha Palmer In California, we have built what I think is the best network of sites, and three of them will be live this year, with the port of L.A.
- ▶ 10:33 Lara Pierpoint It marks the beginning of what Terawatt envisions as a network of charging stations all along the I-Ten corridor, all the way from California to Texas.
- ▶ 31:56 Lara Pierpoint Corridor in California, but maybe elsewhere too. 2 times in the scene
Catalyst Live at SF Climate Week
- ▶ 3:42 Shayle Kann Ava is the community choice aggregator, the California specific phenomenon that allows you to select your own retail electricity provider in a non-retail choice market.
What’s next for the battery storage boom? [partner content]
- ▶ 9:15 Stephen Lacey So California, Arizona, Texas, those are really hot markets. 3 times in the scene
Serving data center load with carbon capture
- ▶ 17:01 Julio Friedmann In contrast, of course, Texas, Louisiana, central Illinois, the Rockies, these are great places to store CO two, even humbly California.
- ▶ 29:29 Julio Friedmann I would add that includes wells in California. 4 times in the scene
How climate disasters are shaping insurance markets
- ▶ 2:19 Shayle Kann So, as most of you know, I live in California, and if you live in California, as I'm sure is true if you live in Florida or parts of the Southeast or maybe Texas or really a lot of places, then you know that homeowner's insurance seems to… 3 times in the scene
- ▶ 5:03 Dr. Judson Boomhauer Um, terrible wildfire seasons in California in 2017 and 2018, which are something that I've thought a lot about in my own research.
Frontier Forum: Future-proofing data center power infrastructure
- ▶ 6:09 Stephen Lacey So going back to the research, you studied two specific regions, um, California and Virginia, very different energy landscapes. 5 times in the scene
The potential for flexible data centers
- ▶ 24:12 Tyler Norris Um, I was just talking to someone in California a few weeks ago.
The case for colocating data centers and generation
- ▶ 10:04 Sheldon Kimber We've got open positions in California.
- ▶ 26:14 Sheldon Kimber Um, that is, you know, the interesting thing about that is that is probably akin to the cleanest possible, you know, mix of renewables, maybe anywhere in the country other than California and Hawaii.
More 2025 trends: DeepSeek, plug-in hybrids, and curtailment
- ▶ 8:07 Shayle Kann That excess energy to the point where we continue to just dump, ah, more and more power literally into the ground, at least in California, and we see negative prices at an alarming frequency in Europe. 9 times in the scene
Are utilities ready to fully harness demand flexibility? [partner content]
- ▶ 1:00 Shayle Kann In the last few years, Scott is seeing a lot more utilities embracing time-varying rates, and those rates are bringing value to stressed grids, like in his home state of California in September of twenty-twenty-two. 4 times in the scene
- ▶ 24:54 Scott Engstrom To set levels of, um, how full their EV battery is, what temperature it is in their house, and this can create, across thousands and millions of customers, real benefits for the grid because, um, price signals will go up and down quite,…
- ▶ 27:07 Scott Engstrom In that sense, uh, you know, we're still early days, and I think what's encouraging as we look at, you know, maybe a lot of this trend started in the West and California has made it 2 times in the scene
2025 trends: aerosols, oil demand, and carbon removal
- ▶ 23:37 Nat Bullard They're not just people in Texas and California, you know, that shape kind of our understanding of, of what investing might be.
Scaling low-carbon products with book and claim systems
- ▶ 16:40 Adam Klauber And, uh, if it's okay to share a story, there was a barge that sat off of the coast of California that was uncertified SAF.
What went wrong at Northvolt?
Frontier Forum: Why utilities should go big on VPPs
- ▶ 26:37 Seth Frader-Thompson The one thing is I would say if you're in California and you're a regulator, the rest of the country exists.
Getting heat pumps right
- ▶ 23:18 Paul Lambert So, like, essential heat pumps, if we're going to say, compared with the furnace, um, are still generally more expensive up front, and we haven't done a good job of capturing or, or, um, communicating energy-saving introductions, and the… 3 times in the scene
The state of connected DERs [partner content]
- ▶ 8:46 Charlotte Johnson And the reason I keep referring to GB when it comes to batteries is that GB outside of CAISO or outside of California is the kind of second largest, most mature battery market.
The rise of climate adaptation tech
- ▶ 6:25 Shayle Kann And I'm in California, so I'm in wildfire territory.
- ▶ 22:51 Katie MacDonald And just to give you a sense of some of that demand, kind of broadly speaking, of course, across like corporations and financial institutions, we have like SB-二-six-one, which is California's climate risk reporting rule, which is like the…
- ▶ 36:57 Katie MacDonald Meanwhile, on the other end of things, it's like, California's trying to insure
Hunting for geologic hydrogen
- ▶ 24:10 Pete Johnson So, you know, if you just kind of think, okay, in the neighborhood of one percent is, is what's lost from wellhead to customer, typically in industrial gas, you know, that's in a similar ballpark as, as the average natural gas production…
The reshoring of American solar trackers [partner content]
- ▶ 2:09 Dan Shugar That's twice the peak load of the state of California.
Going deep on next-gen geothermal
- ▶ 2:58 Shayle Kann If you just look at the United States, you know, basically all of the geothermal that we've built in the United States is in Nevada or California.
- ▶ 5:07 Dr. Roland Horne California is actually one of them. 2 times in the scene
- ▶ 9:14 Dr. Roland Horne Uh, there are certain places, including here in California, where geothermal is one of the cheapest forms of electricity.
- ▶ 30:13 Dr. Roland Horne In the Salton Sea here in California for, for decades, and it does require the development of technology, um, and they're in the process of doing that.
Demystifying the Chinese EV market
- ▶ 29:29 TP Huang (TP Wang) Yeah, I mean, they have their, um, one of their bigger factories overseas in California, which makes a lot of electric buses and other commercial vehicles in America.
Under the hood of data center power demand
- ▶ 19:54 Brian Janous And, you know, California, of course, uh, where you live every summer, we get worried about, you know, rolling blackouts because of fire issues.
Drew Baglino on Tesla’s Master Plan
- ▶ 13:16 Drew Baglino I mean, like California is leading the way where, where kind of natural gas is not going to be attached to new homes or allowed in new homes, and eventually that'll come back to existing homes and retrofits.
- ▶ 36:26 Drew Baglino Especially solar that's going to be, you know, curtailed or seeing lower market prices during the middle of the day, like in California, you know, all of a sudden you have a higher value end use to send that power if, if, if you have that,… 2 times in the scene
- ▶ 57:23 Drew Baglino Like, you can actually build things kind of anywhere, even in California, if you put the, the time into understanding how to comply with the rules, and the rules are the Clean Water Act, Clean Air Act, and, and, and, and the building… 4 times in the scene
Heavy duty decarbonization
- ▶ 14:04 Andy Lubershane So, um, the example I, I, you know, I know best because I, I, they've put out actually a good amount of data on it is the port of Long Beach in California, which is basically right next to the port of Los Angeles together. 2 times in the scene
With Great Power: Why dynamic rates are gaining momentum
- ▶ 1:03 Stephen Lacey So this week, we feature the story of how Ahmad Farouki became focused on time of use electricity pricing after the California energy crisis, and his experience with the good, bad, and ugly of electricity rates in the decades after.
- ▶ 1:50 Brad Langley Back in early 2004 years after California deregulated its energy supply, electricity prices started soaring. 6 times in the scene
- ▶ 5:19 Brad Langley And then the California energy crisis happened. 2 times in the scene
- ▶ 6:50 Ahmad Faruqi So I think now, so this is about five to 10 years ago, EVs arrive on the scene, and suddenly there is a customer longing for a lower rate, and the time of use pricing finally came of age, I would say, just about 21 years after the…
- ▶ 8:35 Ahmad Faruqi So if the average rate, like for example, here in California, in the PG&E service area, is 40 cents on average for the typical house, for the heat pump, usually it'll be 10 cents.
- ▶ 10:05 Brad Langley The other major issue, especially in California, is the duck curve and peak demand in general.
- ▶ 12:15 Brad Langley So we've seen success of time of use rates across the country, you know, here in California, Southern California Edison, PG&E, SCE even, you know, showed that, um, you know, time of use rates could shift peak demand.
- ▶ 19:29 Ahmad Faruqi That Oklahoma was ahead of California when it came to dynamic pricing, and thankfully they hired me to help them out on a couple of issues, so I went there, and what I discovered was the reason they were successful is because they talked…
Could VPPs save rooftop solar?
- ▶ 3:43 Jigar Shah And, you know, back then we did the value of solar work in Minnesota and some of these other places, I think California, uh, 5 times in the scene
- ▶ 8:32 Jigar Shah But it doesn't actually force the electric utilities in California, or the CCAs for that matter, to use the batteries to, like, actually solve these problems. 4 times in the scene
- ▶ 25:26 Jigar Shah You saw the state of California and their, uh, desire to do dynamic pricing, which I can't imagine is a great idea, but I'll let them do what they want to do, right?
- ▶ 32:50 Shayle Kann I mean, you know, I don't think this has been talked about enough actually, and this is true in lots of places, but California is where it's most dramatic. 2 times in the scene
Understanding SAF buyers
- ▶ 17:45 Amelia DeLuca We are actively planning for fifteen million gallons plus in California over the next two years, and the reason I'm starting with California is just mentioning that's where the incentives are to date. 2 times in the scene
Building a supply chain for rare earth elements
- ▶ 15:49 Ahmad Ghahreman Uh, to some extent that happens in California as well, uh, by MP materials. 2 times in the scene
- ▶ 24:57 Shayle Kann As you said, there's some of that already, particularly on the mining side in California.
How an obscure, 100-year old law is disrupting U.S. energy
- ▶ 5:29 Colin Grabow From New York to California, and the way they did it was not put on an American ship, just go to California, no, no, no. 2 times in the scene
Digging into the SEC climate disclosure rules
- ▶ 0:12 Shayle Kann Obviously, losing scope three from the SEC rule on its own seems like it would be a big blow to that world, but if everybody's going to have to do it anyway because of California, does it really matter?
- ▶ 3:44 Mallory Thomas California with their climate regulation, a lot has been going on in this space, so it's nice to see some resolution from the SEC and to have some final rules in place. 2 times in the scene
- ▶ 6:38 Shayle Kann You've got California, which we have, we haven't talked about in detail, but came up with its own thing. 2 times in the scene
- ▶ 12:57 Mallory Thomas So I think that trickle-down effect is something that is likely not going to occur or be as impactful to date, but then I always get into, like, there's California, so I don't know. 10 times in the scene
- ▶ 16:17 Shayle Kann So obviously losing scope three from the SEC rule on its own seems like it would be a big blow to that world, but if everybody's going to have to do it anyway because of California, does it really matter?
- ▶ 31:22 Mallory Thomas So, you know, California is out there.
Climate tech’s tough year in the public markets
- ▶ 32:05 Shanu Matthew I'm sure some of your listeners are aware of, you know, there was that big change in net metering in California that happened, and California has 40% of the overall U.S. residential market. 2 times in the scene
More 2024 trends: ESG, carbon certifications, curtailment, and AI
- ▶ 20:08 Shayle Kann Uh, I hope that that ends up being the case, because if not, the trajectory of curtailment in places that are adding a lot of renewables, so California being our perfect example, solar-specific issue, but let's just talk about California. 4 times in the scene
2024 trends: batteries, transferable tax credits, and the cost of capital
- ▶ 7:35 Nat Bullard The, the projection for installations was like a hand loaded spreadsheet of like discrete assets, plus tallying up a few websites where people attract stuff like in state of California.
- ▶ 12:19 Nat Bullard I'm like, well, you are buying modules for a rooftop in California.
- ▶ 43:29 Shayle Kann Okay, speaking of markets moving quickly, but for different reasons, let's jump to slide 71, which is about residential solar in California, and basically, I think anybody who's in the residential solar market knows that this has been… 3 times in the scene
- ▶ 49:28 Nat Bullard The sort of unwritten question within this chart is like the end of life for somebody's like high performance Tesla battery driving it in Orange County, California is a different concept of end of life than it might be if it's being…
What’s really happening in the U.S. EV market?
- ▶ 21:37 Corey Cantor I even took a, a Hertz, not, not the reason why Hertz essentially, uh, sold the EVs, but, um, my girlfriend and I took a trip to California. 2 times in the scene
Solving the cow burp problem
- ▶ 36:29 Charles Brooke We've seen a little bit of traction, uh, in California had some funding to deploy an, uh, an adoption program, an early adoptions program, um, during the recent budget hit that seems to have gone away.
Sourcing biomass for carbon removal
- ▶ 19:59 Dr. Bodhi Cabiyo If you have, like, true agricultural residues, like in California, for example, we have a lot of orchards in the Central Valley where they, um, you know, they have, they, they grow their crop like almonds for several years, decades, I…
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