Mati Staniszewski
Co-founder & CEO, ElevenLabs. On 7 shows, 8 appearances. The Shows tab opens the full record on each.
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Mati Staniszewski is the co-founder and CEO of ElevenLabs, a voice AI and synthetic speech platform launched in 2022. Before starting the company with Piotr Dąbkowski, he worked as a deployment strategist at Palantir Technologies and helped develop the Aladdin Wealth platform at BlackRock.
7shows
8appearances
188statements
29resolved
25supported
1contradicted
86%fully supported
67said about them ↓ Everything Mati Staniszewski said on any show that made the record, most notable first. Each card names its show and opens the statement there.
Staniszewski: No AI bubble brewing in Silicon Valley because revenue is real
“I don't think that the bubble is brewing. I think there's, like, what I think is a very different part, as I compare it to other cycles, I think there's a clear value, clear revenue numbers for a lot of the companies.”
ElevenLabs built its own data centers for training AI models
“So we've built our own data centers for training, and then for inference, we of course use some of our great partners across across the traditional.”
Staniszewski: ElevenLabs' Eastern European team worked harder than US West Coast hires
“I think you can find people that want to work harder, and we've had it actually at some point a team where we hired some people from west coast of US and our people where we have quite a few from central eastern Europe where like, oh yeah, they don't work actu…”
Staniszewski: Deploying forward deployed engineers without product feedback loops equals services
“And I feel like the second part is always frequently missed was like first, okay, if these are, you know, doing effectively a lot of the hard integration work to solve the problem, but if you don't do the second step of how you actually learn the expertise and…”
Staniszewski predicts conversational AI will deliver human-like dialogue within 12 months
“So, so I think 12 months from now, what will happen is, is similar as we are speaking. It's, I think the technology will be able to understand us at an incredibly better way, both our knowledge, both the emotional part of that conversation and deliver, deliver…”
ElevenLabs CEO Mati Staniszewski says the company has never employed product managers
“We don't have any PMs.”
Staniszewski: People disclose sensitive details more openly to AI than humans
“With AI, people are much more open to share what actually happened, give the information, and suddenly this emotional block of, like, in front of other human, I don't want to be able to say all of that, is, is, is very different.”
Staniszewski: ElevenLabs aims for human-level conversational voice fidelity in 2026
“We hope this year we'll do that same thing for voice where any conversation feels like you're speaking with another human.”
Staniszewski: ElevenLabs hopes to pass voice Turing test within a year
“Our goal is to like pass the voice Turing test in all those cases, or the Turing test for all conversational agents outside of voice two. And I hope we will be there in the next year or so.”
ElevenLabs bets research on cascaded voice architecture over speech-to-speech
“So today we are optimizing heavily on a cascaded approach... So that's like where we are betting a lot of the research work of how you can make that great, and we think we can make that great.”
Staniszewski: Speech-to-speech models are 'definitely dumber' due to size limits
“They are definitely dumber. You need smaller model, you cannot... If you are going speech to speech, usually you will use smaller models, so it's still quick.”
Staniszewski: Headphones will likely be the primary voice AI form factor
“I do think it most likely will be the most natural form factor given it's already one of the key devices.”
Staniszewski: Skeptical of valuations for GPU and inference providers built on NVIDIA
“It's all the, like, GPU providers that are built on top of NVIDIA that, like, help you get Effectively inference capacity. Like I'm a little bit skeptic on some evaluations there”
Staniszewski: Only a few global companies will pre-train foundational AI models
“Like let's take building foundational AI models. I think the kind of, the base will be pre-trained by few companies in the world, just given the resources required. They'll be open source of course offerings in that bucket. But then Probably, as I think about …”
Staniszewski: Deep domain integrations create defensibility for AI startups
“If you know domain extremely well, then The AI model, this, you know, gives you a good starting point, but then integrations with the system, the legacy systems of how you deliver that, telephony how you bring the knowledge, that will take so much time. Then l…”
Staniszewski: Only 50 to 100 top-level voice AI researchers exist globally
“We don't think there's that many researchers in the world that are at the top level, especially in invoice, maybe 50, maybe hundred.”
Audio AI progress requires architectural breakthroughs rather than raw compute scale
“The main part that I think is different in audio space is that you don't need the scale as much as you need the, Architectural breakthroughs, the model breakthroughs to really make a dent.”
Voice conversational AI will pass the Turing test within a year
“I think this is, is good for customer support or customer experience, but it's still a way away from like conversation like we have and like passing that Turing test. So I think this is still like a, at least a year, like within a year. And then you will have …”
Staniszewski: AI research is only a head start; ecosystems create lasting value
“The thing that will really give that long-term value is the ecosystem that you create around, whether that's the run and distribution, whether that's the collection of voices you can have, the collection of integrations you can build, the workflows that you ca…”
Staniszewski: Cascaded voice architectures will dominate enterprise for 1–2 years
“And of course, depending on the use case, if you are, like, enterprise-reliable use case, the cascaded approach is the approach for the next year to...”
Staniszewski: LLM Progression Is Flattening While Voice AI Progresses Rapidly
“In voice, you still will see Pretty, pretty, pretty quick curve. On the lamps, I agree, it's probably a little bit flattening to some extent.”
ElevenLabs speech-to-text beats OpenAI and Gemini on benchmarks
“Then speech to text is beating open AI, Gemini on benchmarks.”
Staniszewski: Enterprise partner beat ElevenLabs to AI dubbing launch in 2023
“One of the enterprise clients, we told them that we are planning to launch our dubbing solution, combining those components later, later in that, it was it was, I think September later in that, that month. And they took the components and released dubbing two …”
The other half of the tape: Mati Staniszewski's own voice is left out of every number here. Other people bring the name up 63 times in 17 episodes across the shows. 4 statements on the record name them. every mention, with the transcript →
Who brings them up most Harry Stebbings 33Luke Harries 8Matt Murphy 2John Collison 2Jeffrey Wu 2Jason Calacanis 2David George 2Cliff Weitzman 1
Statements about Mati Staniszewski, by other people (4)
Luke Harries passed on angel investing in ElevenLabs early on
“I was kind of angel investing them. I was like, this is not something I want to invest. What do you mean? Step one, you're going to build the world's best AI audio model. Something no one else has ever done. Anyway, so I did an invest.”
Harries Passed on Angel Investing in ElevenLabs Over Terrible GTM Plan
“And I was like, That is a terrible go to market plan. That's absolutely terrible. I was kind of angel investing them. I was like, this is not something I want to invest. What do you mean step one? You're going to build the world's best AI audio model, somethin…”
Reyna committed to investing in ElevenLabs after a 30-minute conversation
“11, I mean, like, I talked to Matic for 30 minutes and I committed, right?”
ElevenLabs co-founder Mati Staniszewski avoids Twitter in favor of in-person keynotes
“The way we think about it at 11 Labs, it's like, what channels really naturally resonate with the founders, and do they get really excited by? And so for us, Matty is fantastic in person, at large speaking events, at Fireside Chats, and so that's what he reall…”
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20VC 55
All-In 3
Cheeky Pint 2
David Senra 2
the a16z Podcast 1
2026 39 mentions in 11 episodes 4 per episode
- 20Growth: The $6.6B Growth Engine Behind ElevenLabs | Why ElevenLabs Do Not Have PMs | The 7 Part Launch Playbook to Crush All Launches with Luke Harries, Head of Growth @ ElevenLabs
- ElevenLabs: Building an AI Sales Machine & Why We Set a 20x Sales Quota · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
- Anthropic’s $10B Raise | a16z’s $15B Fund: Is the Middle Dead in VC? | How OpenAI Could Go to Zero? · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
- How to Build Your Own Data Center & Why Every Startup Should Do It
- Will Open-Source Threaten Anthropic's Business & Do Margins Matter in a World of AI | Matt Murphy
- OpenAI vs Anthropic IPOs, Anthropic $3T, Zuck's Price War, China Ends Open Source?, Trump Accounts
- Ivanka Trump on Building an Authentic Life
- Jake Paul: Traditional VC is Toast & Attention is More Valuable than Cash · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
- 3 more episodes that year, every mention in 2026 →
2025 24 mentions in 6 episodes 4 per episode
- 20VC: ElevenLabs Head of Growth on Why You Do Not Need PMs | The 7-Part Launch Playbook That Gets 700K+ Views Per Product | The Truth About CAC, Payback & Performance Marketing in AI with Luke Harries
- Marc Andreessen and Charlie Songhurst on the past, present, and future of Silicon Valley
- a16z's David George on the Most Controversial Bet at a16z & Do Margins and Revenue Matter in AI? · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
- 20Growth: Meta CMO Alex Schultz on How All Founders Have to Change Their Marketing Playbook in a World of AI | Is AI Plateauing, What it Means if China Wins the AI Race and Why Zuck is a Generational Leader
- OpenAI’s $6BN Jony Ive Deal & YC Is Both Chanel and Walmart, and Has Officially Won! · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
- Sergey Brin, Google Co-Founder | All-In Live from Miami
- every mention in 2025, scene by scene →
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| Show | Role there | Eps | Statements | Record | |
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| 20VCLEDGER | Co-founder & CEO, ElevenLabs | 1 | 43 | 86% 6/7 | full record on 20VC → |
| DAVID SENRALEDGER | Co-founder & CEO, ElevenLabs | 1 | 39 | 100% 3/3 | full record on David Senra → |
| CHEEKY PINTLEDGER | Co-founder & CEO, ElevenLabs | 1 | 30 | 60% 3/5 | full record on Cheeky Pint → |
 WTFLEDGER | Co-founder & CEO, ElevenLabs | 1 | 23 | 80% 4/5 | full record on WTF is with Nikhil Kamath → |
 NO PRIORSLEDGER | Co-founder & CEO, ElevenLabs | 1 | 20 | 100% 5/5 | full record on No Priors → |
| a16zLEDGER | Co-founder & CEO, ElevenLabs | 2 | 19 | 100% 3/3 | full record on the a16z Podcast → |
| ALL-INLEDGER | Co-founder & CEO, ElevenLabs | 1 | 14 | 100% 1/1 | full record on All-In → |