Staniszewski: AI research is only a head start; ecosystems create lasting value
Mati Staniszewski · No Priors Ep. 143 | With ElevenLabs Co-Founder Mati Staniszewski · Dec 11, 2025 · at 33:01
ElevenLabs co-founder and CEO Mati Staniszewski explains how tech defensibility works across research, product layers, and ecosystem moats.
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“The thing that will really give that long-term value is the ecosystem that you create around, whether that's the run and distribution, whether that's the collection of voices you can have, the collection of integrations you can build, the workflows that you can build. Like, I think that's the way we can sequence that in our mind, that research product ecosystem that we built. And research, all it is is a head start and being able to, like, accelerate the future a little bit closer.”
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